An appropriate apology:

I don't know Eddie Wheat either but I would like to hit a few balls with one of his cues. I also don't think a "name" makes a cue play good. There are some well known current cuemakers whose cues I don't happen to like. I just don't believe in knocking their cues, because it is obvious that other people do like them, and will pay high prices for them.

And there is a relatively unknown cuemaker named Chuck Starkey who I think makes a damn good hitting cue, one of the best. I happen to like the way most Szambotis play, but hey that's just me. And Bushkas too have a hit I like. I wish I would never have sold mine years ago.

I was a little offended when Mr. Wheat said he thought Szambotis "hit like shit". I think the way a cue plays is very subjective, and to knock another man's work is a little out of line. Especially one so revered in the same industry. There is something called respect. I guess if I had my choice between a Wheat cue and a Szamboti, I would chose the Szam. Enough said.
 
WheatCues said:
Another fashionably late guest....... welcome to the party !


So what's your contribution to the cuemaking world besides taking an indirect statement personally, and then taking a blind shot at a target you have zero knowlege about ?

oh and by the way..... the money isn't in playing professional pool, it's in the equipment, but of course you already knew that ! "you were just checking me" .....


- Eddie Wheat
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If I might make a suggestion.... it's responses like this one of yours that can put people off a bit. THe written word on the forums don't contain any voice and sound to help us understand exactly what you're saying.

I'm sure you don't mean to say that your opinion "as a player" is any better than any other "player" on this board. And, you as a cuemaker I'm sure realize that even players have no idea why or what they like about a cue. Also, as a player and a cuemaker, I'm sure you know that liking the feel and hit of a cue is completely subjective. But, I think your words just came across wrong. I hope.

Lastly, just in case you didnt know.... you're not the first to tell us that Balabushkas, Szambotis and other cues of that era "hit like shit." Some people hate Balabushkas. Some great players at that (like longtime forum poster Dick Leonard, a 300 ball runner from the old days). That's okay. Everyone has different tastes.

Fred
 
By the way

You are entitled to your opinion and I don't necessarily disagree with you.
I happen to think the low end Joss's hit like s*** too, like a 2 x 4. Of course any cuemaker worth his salt would know that a 13.25 mm shaft (Break cue shaft size) with a conical taper or European taper would hit like a 2 x 4.

My memories of Joss are from 30 years ago.

Eddie, buy a cheap dictionary and keep it beside your Pc. You will find your posts will hold more water when your spelling is correct. You have about 10 misspelled words in your previous posts.

If you truly are meticulous, you would have spelled it correctly. Same goes for knowledge and sentence. It is difficult to believe someone is that good at something if they are giving you indications in another area that they are not.

And if you are that good, then you have a tendency to rush things and miss details that become important. These type of things cast a reflection on you. I made my point, and will leave it alone in the future.
 
DrJ said:
OK...in the true spirit of the holiday season, I thunk this up to help out your Marketing Department:

If custom fitted cues are your bread and butter, then start cookin' with a Wheat Cue and you'll be rollin' in the dough.

Hope you like it....
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THAT IS TOO FUNNY !!! do you mind if I use that slogan ????

I'll work out the residuals with you before I go mainstream in the 2008.


That put a smile on my face, very clever !


- Eddie Wheat
 
BillYards said:
Fatboy: Get some sleep for God's sake! Your typing started really suffering there at the end! Haha!

By the way: congrats on your collection. The photos knocked me OUT! I have been dreaming Szamboti dreams after seeing your line-up.

WheatCues:

I have to agree with shakes... you should know some of the history of cuemaking and Hercek has a pedigree that is more than significant. I was ignorant of Tascarella's pedigree until FNL educated me. I think Burton Spain made some very important contributions to splicing and cuemaking in general, so you should research Joel at least a little. His website shows the quality he cranks out. Other posters can attest to the playability and hit. Design and playability... I would want to know how others are doing it so well if I wanted to do it myself...
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Thanks for your responses, but remember I'm not trying to compete with any cuemakers, because I'm not trying to copy anyone else or even develop a certain hit or style of cue... I simply build the customers exactly what they want to have in a cue as well as how they want it to hit...

Don't get me wrong, I do build cues in general just to sell and I always try to have 1 or 2 for on the rack for the general population who doesn't care about balance or a refined hit... but for you players out there who are looking for a cue that is built to your unique style of play and hit and feel exactly the way you wanted with every cue you have not been completely happy with, then I'm your man because I WILL give you the best of both worlds at a realistic affordable price !

Because I'm a cuemaker ! not an artist..... I build tools... not art !

However I did spend 15.000.00 on a CNC Mill just for the art lovers who NEED the bells and whistles as well as much as the performance... I simply didn't want to have to tell someone that I can't give them exactly what they want even when it comes to the frills and fuzzy dice hanging from the buttplate.

No disrespect to the artists of this industry, it is a requirement for those who just want to look like they can play !

And once again, I am not saying this "artistry crap" about any cuemaker in particular, so don't even start !, but you know who you are and thats that !

I'm not implying that I'm better than any pther cuemaker or worse, but the market always has room for improvement, and I have something useful to offer the players besides pretty sperm whale bone inlays in your cue....

Thanks again for the in depth responses in the last couple of posts, it shows sincerety, and realism !



- Eddie Wheat
 
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good hit or bad hit, there is no evidence to suggest that any custom cue maker can produce a stick that outplays another

custom cuemakers have been ripping off unsuspecting players for years alluding to this whole concept of "better playing", Szambotti included
 
smashmouth said:
good hit or bad hit, there is no evidence to suggest that any custom cue maker can produce a stick that outplays another

custom cuemakers have been ripping off unsuspecting players for years alluding to this whole concept of "better playing", Szambotti included
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that's 100% correct !!!!

it's all about personal preference and what feels right that gives you the "psychological" and "tangible" edge...


- Eddie Wheat
 
Klopek said:
Eddie, your so called apology is snotty and more offensive than your original post about Szams and Bushkas hitting like crap.

I didn't care one bit about that original post, but I don't like the snotty tone of this thread which you obviously started just to stir the pot. There's a lot of that attitude going on around here lately and I for one hate this behavior.

You made your unnecessary apology in the original thread, why start a new thread?.

If you feel the need to apologize, more power to you, but when you say things like "I appologize for offending the followers of these Godlike Cuemakers" or "I WILL be a little more tedious from now on with my words, so I do NOT offend the sensitive ones on here", you come off like a real jerk.

You'll have my respect when you show some.
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Yes, there are a few sarcastic overtones to the apology, but or the most part it's sincere, because I stand behind my opinion, and people like you who give yours freely and in turn bash someone else for theirs are hypocritical, You even look like a smart ass in your photo... but I didn't critique or bash you did I ? well keep reading....

This site is all about opinions and some factual data to back it up, so where does it give you the right to defend an indirect statement to begin with ?? unless you are related to these fine cuemakers...

Apparently I need to personally address you because you obviously don't read word for word either, for the 4th time I am specifically stating that I was not insulting the quality of balabushka or Szamboti they are well built cues, I WAS REFERING TO THE DAMN HIT "PLAYABILITY" OF THOSE CUES !

I haven't seen a worthwild post from you yet except for insults and restating and overstating what has already been said....

WHAT CONTRIBUTION DO HAVE TO OFFER BESIDES YOUR MUGSHOT AND INSULTS! THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU DIRECTLY "i.e. this thread" ???

And one more thing... I don't create controversy " stir the pot" it's not my style, I'm a very busy person for the most part and I take time out to post these in depth responses and analogies for helpful and insightful reasons, do to the mental conditioning of what is expected from a custom cue and it's maker !

And then to make matters worse I friggin apologize for the sensitive balabuska and szamboti owners about my opinion of how those cues HIT to me and then you feel compelled once again to jump in with your comedic and out-of-line insults that had nothing to do with you directly in the first place !

I don't care whether you like me or not. I don't kiss anyone's ass and I try to be as repectful as possible and I will admit when I'm wrong and I have, and I don't need someone like you who probably hasn't even hit with either one of those cues or much less own one and probably can't hit the back rail with ball-in-hand, to correct me about my posts !!!!


Love Ya !


- Eddie Wheat
 
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DrJ said:
OK...in the true spirit of the holiday season, I thunk this up to help out your Marketing Department:

If custom fitted cues are your bread and butter, then start cookin' with a Wheat Cue and you'll be rollin' in the dough.

Hope you like it....
:D
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Do you work in marketing, if not you should,,,,lol
 
Cornerman said:
If I might make a suggestion.... it's responses like this one of yours that can put people off a bit. THe written word on the forums don't contain any voice and sound to help us understand exactly what you're saying.

I'm sure you don't mean to say that your opinion "as a player" is any better than any other "player" on this board. And, you as a cuemaker I'm sure realize that even players have no idea why or what they like about a cue. Also, as a player and a cuemaker, I'm sure you know that liking the feel and hit of a cue is completely subjective. But, I think your words just came across wrong. I hope.

Lastly, just in case you didnt know.... you're not the first to tell us that Balabushkas, Szambotis and other cues of that era "hit like shit." Some people hate Balabushkas. Some great players at that (like longtime forum poster Dick Leonard, a 300 ball runner from the old days). That's okay. Everyone has different tastes.

Fred
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With all due respect to you, I don't go around looking for trouble... the sarcastic responses were provoked by the intial post I was responding to, if you feel the need to critique me atleast take all of it in consideration before passing judgement on me !

I'm a very likable guy, but my kindness shouldn't be confused with weakness, I try to be as respectful as possible, but I do get taken the wrong way, so that's why I try to be as detailed as possible, but of course there are those who single out one sentence out of several paragraphs and then make a mountain out of a mole hill and then try to sell you climbing equipment !

I may step out of line once in a while... but who hasn't ????


- Eddie Wheat
 
I saw BUDDY HALL play the best pol of his life with a Balabuska that is now in the GLENN COLLECTION and a few years ago I heard him offer to trade a new Cadillac for the cue to play with again,I reasoned that it must hit good
Then I played Louie Roberts and he had a Balabushka and he gave me the break 5,6,7.8 wild and as I paid him I reasoned ,Balabushkas sure must play good. I got a balabushka and played Vernon Elliot some one pockey and he made a bank shot I couldn't believe and I proceeded to dog some easy shots,As I paid off I reasoned Balabushkas don't play so good.

DEAN
 
Fatboy...I will second that opinion. It IS one sweet hitting cue! :D I loved mine, and played with it for 17 yrs., before I sold it! Yours hit even better than mine!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Fatboy said:
on to the Bushkas...I have one, it is without a doubt the sweetest hitting cue I have ever hit a ball with, I have hit balls with probably $2,000,000 worth of cues over the past 22 years 9, and I have one that it the top hitting cue EVER.
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deanoc said:
I saw BUDDY HALL play the best pol of his life with a Balabuska that is now in the GLENN COLLECTION and a few years ago I heard him offer to trade a new Cadillac for the cue to play with again,I reasoned that it must hit good
Then I played Louie Roberts and he had a Balabushka and he gave me the break 5,6,7.8 wild and as I paid him I reasoned ,Balabushkas sure must play good. I got a balabushka and played Vernon Elliot some one pockey and he made a bank shot I couldn't believe and I proceeded to dog some easy shots,As I paid off I reasoned Balabushkas don't play so good.

DEAN
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FOR THE LAST TIME....

IT'S ALL ABOUT PERSONAL PREFERENCE !!!!

there is no wrong cue or bad cue it's what one is used to and prefers, why do you think we have hundreds of cuemakers in the world ???

Because if it were just a certain hit everyone was wanting then 95% of the worlds's cuemakers would be building exotic hardwood pen sets instead of cues.....

I am completely done with this thread and post unless you bash me then I must retaliate.

this is just gettiing too drawn out...... if you don't get the point by now, it's hopeless !


Oh, and by the way.... KLOPEK "Yes I am !"


- Eddie Wheat
 
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This thread is getting pretty good, I just turned off the TV, Radio, and my lathe, the Popcorn is in the microwave and I just opened an Ice Cold Beer!!!!!!!!!!;)
 
Your PM box is full...

Klopek said:
Simply amazing.
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Probably with a bunch of messages like I was trying to send you... let it go. He doesn't see how he's coming across, several people have tried to give him advice.
 
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