Archer - slowest player on tour?

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jjinfla

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Just read an article where Archer played Alex, race to 15, he won 15-11 and it took 4 hours.

He spends half his time cleaning the table of immaginary dirt. The other half moving chalk.

His nick name should be, "The Human Vaccuum Cleaner".

At least when a player has a match on a table that Archer just finished playing on you can be assured that it is clean.

I know that one of his matches in Orlando went over the 2 1/2 hour time they allot for matches.

And they say Charlie Williams plays slow. Cheesh.

Jake
 
Take your pick: Johnny Archer, Danny Basavich and Jeremy Jones are surely the three slowest. Long live the shot clock!
 
jjinfla said:
Just read an article where Archer played Alex, race to 15, he won 15-11 and it took 4 hours.

He spends half his time cleaning the table of immaginary dirt. The other half moving chalk.

His nick name should be, "The Human Vaccuum Cleaner".

At least when a player has a match on a table that Archer just finished playing on you can be assured that it is clean.

I know that one of his matches in Orlando went over the 2 1/2 hour time they allot for matches.

And they say Charlie Williams plays slow. Cheesh.

Jake
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A couple years ago, at Valley Forge, Archer played Williams. The pace was so painfully slow that most of the fans left the arena, including me and my wife.
 
jjinfla said:
He spends half his time cleaning the table of immaginary dirt. The other half moving chalk.
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And the other half moving balls that are already down from one pocket to another.
 
I don't know what it is, but I've seen Johnny, Danny, and Jeremy compete at a fast pace from time to time.

At the 2003 U.S. Open when Jeremy Jones triumphed over Jose Parica in the finals, it was one of the SLOWEST rounds I've ever witnessed. He literally walked away from the table after each and every shot to wipe his stick down, take a swig of water, and pat the powder. However, this was probably the most important match of his life, and if I were in Jeremy's shoes, I'd do whatever it took to snatch the almighty win. He did, and he's got the championship title. No one can ever take it away from him.

Danny Basavich is notorious for playing at a slow pace. Yet, I have seen this young man play lightning speed, just like Keith's style of play, when he wants to. Danny is a very intense player when he's in the pit, and he wants to win with every inch of his being, very focused and determined. He's no different than any of the other champions out there in that he does everything it takes to win. If he's put on a shot clock, the Kid can produce and has demonstrated so. 2005 was a very good year for Kid Delicious.

Johnny Archer is a seasoned veteran who can adapt to any setting. Whether he plays slow or fast, his skills set and expertise shine brightly on any field of green. He is, after all, an American champion, and as such, I'm usually rooting for him all the way to the finish line; that is, unless he's up against my horse in the race! ;)

JAM
 
JAM said:
At the 2003 U.S. Open when Jeremy Jones triumphed over Jose Parica in the finals, it was one of the SLOWEST rounds I've ever witnessed. He literally walked away from the table after each and every shot to wipe his stick down, take a swig of water, and pat the powder.
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My good friend and I had front row seats for that match and we couldn't take watching such slow painful play and we walked out in the 6th game of the match. I actually saw Jose's eye's closed like he was napping waiting for Jeremy to finish so he could go to the table. Jeremy would actually stop, go to his chair, wipe his entire cue down, powder his hands, & get a drink of water before shooting a shot where the next ball was sitting in the jaws of the pocket and the cue ball was no more than 3 feet away. I couldn't take watching that kind of pool and I heard many complaints from other spectators before we left our front row seats.
Johnny Archer is a seasoned veteran who can adapt to any setting.

JAM
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Johnny used to be one of my favorite players to watch when he was younger and an up and coming star in pool, but his pace has slowed now to the point that I don't enjoy watching his matches anymore.

I personally think a 30 second shot clock should be used in all tournaments to make everyone play at a reasonable pace to make watching the matches entertaining to the spectators. Nobody wants to sit and watch a player look at every possible shot and ball evertime they pocket a shot before shooting again. I'm not implying that you shouldn't take your time, but be reasonable about it.
 
If you match up with Johnny---just mention that the balls seem sticky in spots. He can't clean them before every shot and it will drive him crazy.
 
Archer is a sick, sick billiards player, but his slow play is ridiculous, as his complete and utter lack of personality.
 
One of the big reasons you hardly ever see a complete game on TV is because of the slow play. Other sports changed their time limits for TV, why can't pool have 30 a second shot clock for ALL tournaments. So what if they miss more often. It would probably be more entertaining for most of the people watching. Johnnyt
 
Talking about slow players, Strickland once said in an interview regarding Takeshi Okumura." That guy's so slow, he takes 2 hours to watch 60 minutes."
 
Johnny showed watch his old tapes.
He played great in the early rapidfire 90's.
Now, he's a human rain delay.
 
The Kid said:
Talking about slow players, Strickland once said in an interview regarding Takeshi Okumura." That guy's so slow, he takes 2 hours to watch 60 minutes."
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Okumura is REALLY REALLY slow. Others included Greg Fix, Jeff Carter, Jeff Heath and Arturo Rivera (the two slowest on the West Coast).
Arturo may be the all time slowest.

Oh wait a second, I forgot someone special here. DICK "Day and Night" LANE. If you scheduled his match in the day time, it ended at night. And if you scheduled him at night, it ended the next day. GUARANTEED.

In the old days, Frank McGown was a great 14.1 player, but the over and under on his matches to 125 was four hours.

Lane, Rivera, Fix and Heath could give Archer the Eight on playing slow. Easily.
 
I think Varner even slower than those 3. Although not pro, have you ever seen a player slower than strong arn john?
 
Varner

I have watched some Varner matches, and he didn't seem slow to me, he studied the table well, but progressed at a reasonable speed, to me.

Danny Basavich, when he was on the road, and hung around here for 6 months (going between Tulsa, OKC, and Wichita) was a little slow, much more so on 'critical' shots that brought home the money. Funny Guy though, with a affiable East Coast personality, which is a little different than most East Coasters in the Midwest, who are judged to be rather abrasive and borderline obnoxious.

Years ago, Dick Lane used to play some big tournaments here in Wichita, and yes, he is THAT SLOW. It was rumored, that if you came up against him, to bring your alarm clock with you. Total Logic player, didn't see much 'natural talent' in him.

I think Archer changed as the 90's progressed, and he stopped winning so much. I think he has to 'reach' for his confidence nowdays, where before it was just there. How a person feels inside can make a big difference how they play. I have watched some Archer matches lately, and although careful in his play, he seemed to lack the intensity that he once had.
 
sjm said:
Take your pick: Johnny Archer, Danny Basavich and Jeremy Jones are surely the three slowest. Long live the shot clock!
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Souquet can be pretty damn slow too, but at least he is thinking about his shot; not picking imaginary lint off the cloth, screwing with powder, wiping his cue, drinking water, or picking his nose.
 
Snapshot9 said:
I have watched some Varner matches, and he didn't seem slow to me, he studied the table well, but progressed at a reasonable speed, to me.

Danny Basavich, when he was on the road, and hung around here for 6 months (going between Tulsa, OKC, and Wichita) was a little slow, much more so on 'critical' shots that brought home the money. Funny Guy though, with a affiable East Coast personality, which is a little different than most East Coasters in the Midwest, who are judged to be rather abrasive and borderline obnoxious.

Years ago, Dick Lane used to play some big tournaments here in Wichita, and yes, he is THAT SLOW. It was rumored, that if you came up against him, to bring your alarm clock with you. Total Logic player, didn't see much 'natural talent' in him.

I think Archer changed as the 90's progressed, and he stopped winning so much. I think he has to 'reach' for his confidence nowdays, where before it was just there. How a person feels inside can make a big difference how they play. I have watched some Archer matches lately, and although careful in his play, he seemed to lack the intensity that he once had.
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I agree about what you said about Nick not being slow and Archer's confidence. Johnnyt
 
Call it what you will....

I believe narcotics have a lot to say about these players tempo of play. I've seen tons of road players come through this area and they all use different chemical combinations. Some need a seat belt to keep them from twitching out of there seat. Others need to get smacked upside the head to wake them that it is their shot. LOL
 
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