Backer Wanted for Million Dollar Challenge - Mike Davis

allen_jr said:
Hey Mike,

If you would like, I can add your name to our list on our website as well, it may help spread the word a bit. Also, email me your personal email address and I will keep you posted on upcoming satellites... You can email me directly at allen_jr@allenhopkinsproductions.com

Also, anyone else who would like to be kept up to date, feel free to email me. Actually, the best thing to do would be to visit www.milliondollar9ball.com and sign up to be on our mailing list (that will automatically go into our database and save me a little time with data entry - thanks:) The mailing list sign up box is on the left column under the menu options, you'll see it...
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Welcome to the site Allen,glad to see your following in your pops foot steps in promoting. :smile:
 
allen_jr...How about posting the names of players who have actually PAID the $5K entry fee, or have won qualifiers (there haven't been very many...yet)? The website only lists the names of "players who have shown interest"! It is absolutely true that the $1M prize will not be paid without a full field. Likewise, the payouts will be substancially reduced, if the field is not filled. I'm not saying that I don't believe in this event...just that at this late date, it's unlikely, imo, that you will find 200 poolplayers to post $5,000 as an entry (even if they had it to post). Best of luck with this tournament.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

allen_jr said:
Hey Mike,

If you would like, I can add your name to our list on our website as well, it may help spread the word a bit. Also, email me your personal email address and I will keep you posted on upcoming satellites... You can email me directly at allen_jr@allenhopkinsproductions.com

Also, anyone else who would like to be kept up to date, feel free to email me. Actually, the best thing to do would be to visit www.milliondollar9ball.com and sign up to be on our mailing list (that will automatically go into our database and save me a little time with data entry - thanks:) The mailing list sign up box is on the left column under the menu options, you'll see it...
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2 have paid

Scott Lee said:
allen_jr...How about posting the names of players who have actually PAID the $5K entry fee, or have won qualifiers (there haven't been very many...yet)? The website only lists the names of "players who have shown interest"! It is absolutely true that the $1M prize will not be paid without a full field. Likewise, the payouts will be substancially reduced, if the field is not filled. I'm not saying that I don't believe in this event...just that at this late date, it's unlikely, imo, that you will find 200 poolplayers to post $5,000 as an entry (even if they had it to post). Best of luck with this tournament.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
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Scott, It does list who has paid their entry fee on the site at http://www.milliondollar9ball.com/players.html

Looks like AH and Busta are the only ones to have paid as of June 17th.

Peace, Joe
 
You got it...

Yes, you are right, the prize fund will be diminished if we do not reach a full 200 player field, and it is very likely that we wont reach the full field...

However, we will have an event, and the players that have paid to play, or won satellites, or obtained a sponsor - they will play for a larger sum of many than anyone is used to playing for, outside of IPT events. We have posted some alternate payout schedules and formats in the likely event that we do not get 200 players, you can see it here.

Imagine that 2 players have won satellites, and 5 have a sponsor, and 9 have paid the entry. Thats 16 players, playing for a prize pool of $80,000. After the first round, 8 players will leave with $1000 each, and the other 8 players will be playing for a prize pool of $72,000. Thats pretty good, I think. Now imagine that 1 of those 8 got in this tournament for $400 (satellite), and 2 of them have sponsors, so they're basically freerolling. The satellite winner is definitely having a nice pay day, even if he gets knocked out in round 2. Players will make a substantial profit in the 4 day period that the tournament takes up... We are trying to prove that this system will work, and then next year it will be even better... we will get a full field, and most of the players will have earned their way in via satellite... This system will create much larger prize pools and much better wins for all players involved....

So yes, you're right, we probably won't reach 200 players, but we will have the event, some pool players will earn real good money, and the word will get out. And next year, we'll do it again.

We will eventually be using this system to create a larger prizepool for the Pro Players Championship at the Super Billiards Expo as well, although it won't be a $5000 entry, probably $2000, with satellites going on so that players can win their way in for $100-$200 pretty easily.

I hope this helps clear some things up, feel free to write back with more questions....
 
allen_jr said:
Yes, you are right, the prize fund will be diminished if we do not reach a full 200 player field, and it is very likely that we wont reach the full field...

However, we will have an event, and the players that have paid to play, or won satellites, or obtained a sponsor - they will play for a larger sum of many than anyone is used to playing for, outside of IPT events. We have posted some alternate payout schedules and formats in the likely event that we do not get 200 players, you can see it here.

Imagine that 2 players have won satellites, and 5 have a sponsor, and 9 have paid the entry. Thats 16 players, playing for a prize pool of $80,000. After the first round, 8 players will leave with $1000 each, and the other 8 players will be playing for a prize pool of $72,000. Thats pretty good, I think. Now imagine that 1 of those 8 got in this tournament for $400 (satellite), and 2 of them have sponsors, so they're basically freerolling. The satellite winner is definitely having a nice pay day, even if he gets knocked out in round 2. Players will make a substantial profit in the 4 day period that the tournament takes up... We are trying to prove that this system will work, and then next year it will be even better... we will get a full field, and most of the players will have earned their way in via satellite... This system will create much larger prize pools and much better wins for all players involved....

So yes, you're right, we probably won't reach 200 players, but we will have the event, some pool players will earn real good money, and the word will get out. And next year, we'll do it again.

We will eventually be using this system to create a larger prizepool for the Pro Players Championship at the Super Billiards Expo as well, although it won't be a $5000 entry, probably $2000, with satellites going on so that players can win their way in for $100-$200 pretty easily.

I hope this helps clear some things up, feel free to write back with more questions....
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i think that 2 grand is kinda steep that would really make it tough for an open player who isnt sponsored to play
 
allen_jr said:
Yes, you are right, the prize fund will be diminished if we do not reach a full 200 player field, and it is very likely that we wont reach the full field...

However, we will have an event, and the players that have paid to play, or won satellites, or obtained a sponsor - they will play for a larger sum of many than anyone is used to playing for, outside of IPT events. We have posted some alternate payout schedules and formats in the likely event that we do not get 200 players, you can see it here.

Imagine that 2 players have won satellites, and 5 have a sponsor, and 9 have paid the entry. Thats 16 players, playing for a prize pool of $80,000. After the first round, 8 players will leave with $1000 each, and the other 8 players will be playing for a prize pool of $72,000. Thats pretty good, I think. Now imagine that 1 of those 8 got in this tournament for $400 (satellite), and 2 of them have sponsors, so they're basically freerolling. The satellite winner is definitely having a nice pay day, even if he gets knocked out in round 2. Players will make a substantial profit in the 4 day period that the tournament takes up... We are trying to prove that this system will work, and then next year it will be even better... we will get a full field, and most of the players will have earned their way in via satellite... This system will create much larger prize pools and much better wins for all players involved....

So yes, you're right, we probably won't reach 200 players, but we will have the event, some pool players will earn real good money, and the word will get out. And next year, we'll do it again.

We will eventually be using this system to create a larger prizepool for the Pro Players Championship at the Super Billiards Expo as well, although it won't be a $5000 entry, probably $2000, with satellites going on so that players can win their way in for $100-$200 pretty easily.

I hope this helps clear some things up, feel free to write back with more questions....
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Gotta crawl before you walk in this game (read Qlympics SBE II, the Masters etc) I say thirty this year and 50 next!!
 
"i think that 2 grand is kinda steep that would really make it tough for an open player who isnt sponsored to play"


Are you referring to the Open Amateur Event? I was speaking about the Professional Players Championship... the entry fee there is already $500. We are planning on eventually making it $2000, and then having satellite events for the players to get into that as well. This will create a much larger prize pool, and allow more players to earn some decent money... now, a player who comes in, say, 10th place may still earn enough money to make a nice little score over the 4 day weekend. Nevermind how much better it will be to win the event, we want to ensure that all players, or at least more players, have a good payday, with ample money over and above their travel expenses.... with $200 and $500 entry fees, the money a lot of pros take home barely covers their hotel and travel expenses. By raising entry fees, and providing satellites to help players get in cheaper, more money is being put into the players pockets...
 
PS: I am new to these forums, how do you guys do that "quote" thing, where the other persons statement comes up in the blue box, and then you can reply to it directly? Can anyone help?
 
allen_jr said:
PS: I am new to these forums, how do you guys do that "quote" thing, where the other persons statement comes up in the blue box, and then you can reply to it directly? Can anyone help?
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Instead of hitting the "reply" button, hit "Quote".

Thanks for keeping us informed about this event, Allen.
 
allen_jr said:
Yes, you are right, the prize fund will be diminished if we do not reach a full 200 player field, and it is very likely that we wont reach the full field...

However, we will have an event, and the players that have paid to play, or won satellites, or obtained a sponsor - they will play for a larger sum of many than anyone is used to playing for, outside of IPT events. We have posted some alternate payout schedules and formats in the likely event that we do not get 200 players, you can see it here.

Imagine that 2 players have won satellites, and 5 have a sponsor, and 9 have paid the entry. Thats 16 players, playing for a prize pool of $80,000. After the first round, 8 players will leave with $1000 each, and the other 8 players will be playing for a prize pool of $72,000. Thats pretty good, I think. Now imagine that 1 of those 8 got in this tournament for $400 (satellite), and 2 of them have sponsors, so they're basically freerolling. The satellite winner is definitely having a nice pay day, even if he gets knocked out in round 2. Players will make a substantial profit in the 4 day period that the tournament takes up... We are trying to prove that this system will work, and then next year it will be even better... we will get a full field, and most of the players will have earned their way in via satellite... This system will create much larger prize pools and much better wins for all players involved....

So yes, you're right, we probably won't reach 200 players, but we will have the event, some pool players will earn real good money, and the word will get out. And next year, we'll do it again.

We will eventually be using this system to create a larger prizepool for the Pro Players Championship at the Super Billiards Expo as well, although it won't be a $5000 entry, probably $2000, with satellites going on so that players can win their way in for $100-$200 pretty easily.

I hope this helps clear some things up, feel free to write back with more questions....
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With a tourny like this it would an academic best bet to really push the satellite qualifiers. Around here in Michigan I've heard nothing, but that's generally what happens around here...
 
Blackjack said:
Instead of hitting the "reply" button, hit "Quote".

Thanks for keeping us informed about this event, Allen.
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Cool, thanks!

Also, just an fyi for some people.. I was just speaking with my dad, and he told me several players have offered to pay their entry fees already but he told them to hold onto it and just bring it with them and register on-site. He did this to allow players not to have to tie up their money, however, in retrospect it would have been good to collect so we have a better idea of how many players to expect...

Also, more satellites are being advertised everyday... I urge anyone interested to look for a satellite....
 
On Track

Allen, thank you for the updates, I found them to be very helpful in understanding what is going on.

Now back on topic, as far as I know, Mike still needs a sponsor. Like what happened to cover the $500 bet when we had the Cubec and OMGWTF match and 5 people said they would take $100 to help cover the whole bet. If some small group of people came together or even a larger group would do. 60 AZers at 100 each would give him $6000 which should about cover it.
I know I can't come up with the whole amount but I could put in $100 or even $200. Lets get something started.
 
allen_jr said:
with $200 and $500 entry fees, the money a lot of pros take home barely covers their hotel and travel expenses. By raising entry fees, and providing satellites to help players get in cheaper, more money is being put into the players pockets...
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I commend you for what you are trying to do but until this sport actually gets some decent sponsers such as an airline (they would make sense), a beer company (makes sense), ect.... this sport is going to remain in the state it is in. And to get those sponsers someone needs to find out how to make pool entertaining on TV. As a huge fan of pool even I can be put to sleep alot of the time watching a match of pool. Somehow golf manages to actually be entertaining on TV, poker manages it, nobody in pool has figured it out yet.

The game played is certainly one issue, 9-ball is simply quite boring, as is 10-ball really, 8-ball is a bit better but not much. The following of a single match instead of spreading the coverage around such as golf does might also be an issue. Whatever the issue if we want to see pool finally start to become a sport akin to golf with a tour and decent payouts and good sponsership there are some serious overhauls in what needs to be done.

Poker can ask $10,000 per an entry into an event and get it because anyone who catches a good run of cards can do well in a poker event. You don't have to be in the top 1% of poker players to win a heap of cash. Pool on the other hand? You are not going to get amature people putting up $5,000 to play pool so they can get up, run 4 balls, miss and then watch Bustamente run a 5 pack. There is not enough luck in the world to make an amature player win money in an event like this, and every amature knows this.

Pool needs help, I can think of noone better then Allen Hopkins and Co. to try and further this sport along, but atm I dont think the direction you are going is going to work.
 
Hey mike just left cosmos pool room and on the 13th of july there will be a blaze tour event.The following weekend the 20th of july there is a qualifier for allens million dollar shootout.400 per.good luck just letting you and everyone else know,word has it that king james will be there well see you all there.kent
 
kentw said:
Hey mike just left cosmos pool room and on the 13th of july there will be a blaze tour event.The following weekend the 20th of july there is a qualifier for allens million dollar shootout.400 per.good luck just letting you and everyone else know,word has it that king james will be there well see you all there.kent
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Kent,
Can you post the city and state where Cosmos Pool Room is located and any website that advertises their qualifer for Allen's Million Dollar Shootout?
thanks,
JoeyA
 
JoeyA said:
Kent,
Can you post the city and state where Cosmos Pool Room is located and any website that advertises their qualifer for Allen's Million Dollar Shootout?
thanks,
JoeyA
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It is on Rte 6 in Carbondale Pa about 20 minutes from Scranton (King James), 45 Minutes from Binghamton NY (Nobody). Cosmo will gamble with anyone and Not a nit about spots at all.
 
tattoosbyjay said:
i think that 2 grand is kinda steep that would really make it tough for an open player who isnt sponsored to play
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no disrespect to you Jay but to get $$ into pool, $$$ has to be put into pool and even with the brutal economy $2000-aint what it was 10 years ago. Pool is certainly gonna die with the old days of $100-$200 tournments, the pork chop(quoting Tang Hoa) just aint big enough to get instroke for. $2,000 is the way to go and higher, the bigger the numbers the more interest in pool from the general public and that hopefully feeds on itself. Nobody can buy a bus ticket to $100 tournment pretty soon, So its time to jack the bet.

the something for nothing mentality of pool is the cancer of pool, and this isnt just recently it was long before I came along in 85, I could see it then, look at poker and its recent success, $$$ follows $$$, the first million is awalys the to make, I wish Allen the best, its a long term plan with a solid basis, I hope it goes off. Think the Media wouldnt be there if there awa a Mil$ in it, they would 100% cover it, but until it gets pastthe growing pains it wont attract $$$, it takes $$ to make $$$ its all the same no matter what the game, pool, poker, golf. etc. $$$ follows $$$
 
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Flettir said:
Allen, thank you for the updates, I found them to be very helpful in understanding what is going on.

Now back on topic, as far as I know, Mike still needs a sponsor. Like what happened to cover the $500 bet when we had the Cubec and OMGWTF match and 5 people said they would take $100 to help cover the whole bet. If some small group of people came together or even a larger group would do. 60 AZers at 100 each would give him $6000 which should about cover it.
I know I can't come up with the whole amount but I could put in $100 or even $200. Lets get something started.
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Nice pic with mike...kinda like mine. =) one of the good guys i have to admit....
 
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