Bonus Ball--That Dog Won't Hunt

SakuJack said:
So, if you (or Keith) were making money from Bonus Ball, would you still care about Jim Wych supposedly being owed money by them? Because based on this response, I'm leaning towards no.
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Come on, think of it this way....many, if not most, of the first few Bernie Madoff Ponzi scheme "investors" who actually made a lot money while the scheme was up and operating were thoroughly content to continue to collect their payments and could care less that $billions were lost by others in order to pay them.

It's the new sociopathic Darwinism business model taught in all the top Ivy League schools, everything is fine as long as I make money. It sucks. IMO.

J
 

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watchez said:
No offense to the person that put together the bonus ball website - but if they spent $800K on cameras, and almost 3 million on their studio - they spent about $26 on their website. To me, it just doesn't jive.
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watchez said:
No offense to the person that put together the bonus ball website - but if they spent $800K on cameras, and almost 3 million on their studio - they spent about $26 on their website. To me, it just doesn't jive.
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I am guessing you are looking at the old one which is pretty janky. The http://wpbl.tv/ one is pretty good but short on actual info like whos on what team.

The $800K camera bill baffles the shit out of me and I cant even wrap my head around 3 mil. But then I don't have much vision I guess.
 
whammo57 said:
Chess ... really??

Oh my what an exciting game to watch..... I would rather watch flies fucckkk.

BB is too complicated to catch on. I read all the rules and got bored half way through it......... yea yea ... I know, I have a short attention span but, so do a million other pool players.

$200 for a special set of balls........... yea right .... every home owner with a pool table will be flocking to stores to buy them. After 3 beers no one will remember which pocket they are shooting at and what ball is supposed to go there. Shittt, I forget which pocket I am shooting at in one pocket,

People won't pay to watch a game if they don't know exactly what it is that the players are trying to accomplish.

sorry... I won't be a follower.

I feel bad that the good pros are being duped again.

When this folds up, I hope it is not the death of professional pool.

Kim
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I agree, 9ball, 10ball, 1pocket, 14.1 no one will ever be able to replace these games, this is pool the way it was ment to be played, i dont even know how many old school fans and players will be able to even watch such a game, iam not against bonus ball at all, i just wished that they could of keep the players playing the same games that we are so used to seeing and understand, anyway i do hope that it makes it and the players make it happen, who knows after watching it for the first time just maybe it will be a lot of fun, i hope!
 
I hate to be negative, i just watch just a little bit of the Archer-Klatt bonus ball match, had to turn it off, when somebodys money runs out so does this new game, somebody or bodys are going to take a major loss here! sorry thats just my opinion.
 
richiebalto said:
I hate to be negative, i just watch just a little bit of the Archer-Klatt bonus ball match, had to turn it off, when somebodys money runs out so does this new game, somebody or bodys are going to take a major loss here! sorry thats just my opinion.
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I agree 100%
Hope no one who can't afford to lose money is involved in this.
 
richiebalto said:
I agree, 9ball, 10ball, 1pocket, 14.1 no one will ever be able to replace these games, this is pool the way it was ment to be played, i dont even know how many old school fans and players will be able to even watch such a game, iam not against bonus ball at all, i just wished that they could of keep the players playing the same games that we are so used to seeing and understand, anyway i do hope that it makes it and the players make it happen, who knows after watching it for the first time just maybe it will be a lot of fun, i hope!
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1pocket or 14.1 will put the casual fan to sleep before they even get a chance to change the channel.
 
JD_Hogg said:
1pocket or 14.1 will put the casual fan to sleep before they even get a chance to change the channel.
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You make a good point.

Let's face it, the Mosconi Cup captures the excitement in pool that we all seem to enjoy. Is it because we *know* the players involved? Is it the team spirit of rooting for one team against the other? Maybe it is witnessing the audience engagement while watching the players shooting that seems to be riveting.

Whichever it is or a combination thereof, the Mosconi Cup has it; the X Factor of pool, if you will. They're successful, but it's only an annual event. At this time, it's the cream of the crop, what most pro players desire to compete in, a once-in-a-lifetime experience for some.

This excitement is the missing ingredient in pool.
 
JCIN said:
I am guessing you are looking at the old one which is pretty janky. The http://wpbl.tv/ one is pretty good but short on actual info like whos on what team.

The $800K camera bill baffles the shit out of me and I cant even wrap my head around 3 mil. But then I don't have much vision I guess.
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Ok - this website is much better. Looks like Nathan had his hands in this one.

But whoever is doing their Google push doesn't have a clue. ( I have to attack something). If you google bonus ball -- the wpbi.tv website doesn't even come up on the first 3 pages of search. I stopped after that to see when it does finally come up. If they pay me $50,000 --- a drop in a bucket to these guys, I'll see to it that any search for Bonus or Ball or Pro Pool League or whatever comes up with the wpbl.tv website.

Feel free to contact me here for agreement of terms

And yes 800K is astronomical - my brother built a recording studio on a bus that is all state of the art for half that amount.
 
JAM said:
You make a good point.

Let's face it, the Mosconi Cup captures the excitement in pool that we all seem to enjoy. Is it because we *know* the players involved? Is it the team spirit of rooting for one team against the other? Maybe it is witnessing the audience engagement while watching the players shooting that seems to be riveting.

Whichever it is or a combination thereof, the Mosconi Cup has it; the X Factor of pool, if you will. They're successful, but it's only an annual event. At this time, it's the cream of the crop, what most pro players desire to compete in, a once-in-a-lifetime experience for some.

This excitement is the missing ingredient in pool.
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I agree with you, JAM.

I think the Bonus Ball people are trying to include all the same attractive elements that the Mosconi Cup has, and even add a few more. They're just doing it with a little different, and a more visually colorful, game.

The videos that are up on the WPBL website are not a good example of what the finished product will look like.

Roger
 
watchez said:
Ok - this website is much better. Looks like Nathan had his hands in this one.

But whoever is doing their Google push doesn't have a clue. ( I have to attack something). If you google bonus ball -- the wpbi.tv website doesn't even come up on the first 3 pages of search. I stopped after that to see when it does finally come up. If they pay me $50,000 --- a drop in a bucket to these guys, I'll see to it that any search for Bonus or Ball or Pro Pool League or whatever comes up with the wpbl.tv website.

Feel free to contact me here for agreement of terms

And yes 800K is astronomical - my brother built a recording studio on a bus that is all state of the art for half that amount.
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Dis aint no karaoke contest its bonus ball. If someone farts you gonna see the wind blow out their ass. Thats what extra 400g's gonna get you!!!
 
The easiest thing in the world to predict is that a million dollar investment into pool will not get a full ROI.

However maybe these guys just want to change the world and leave a legacy first and foremost.

My world will always be a better place with this amazing game.
 
JAM said:
This excitement is the missing ingredient in pool.
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Thats why Barry Hearn has done so well, he turned pub games into exciting games. He took darts and made it HUGE, they players are star's in Europe.
 
You are right. But they are working stars and put in more hours a week than you do.
They put on more miles than a road player.
 
richiebalto said:
I hate to be negative, i just watch just a little bit of the Archer-Klatt bonus ball match, had to turn it off, when somebodys money runs out so does this new game, somebody or bodys are going to take a major loss here! sorry thats just my opinion.
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I watched that match too. What's with the light color table? Is it so the balls stand out better? It might be just me hanging on to the old games but, it seems really boring to watch. I can't get myself into waiting with anticipation for the pattern to play it self out as a player plays position from the 1 ball and 2 and 3.... and on to the 9. It just seems like OH! he made a purple ball....... and now what?? And why is the blonde bimbo putting the black ball back on the table........ how come that black ball doesn't have a number 8 on it?

I looked up the teams that are set up and a lot of big names are there. I do really hope it flies but I can't see it happening.

Any business that is successful has an income stream......... where is it???


Kim
 
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