First post in this thread...we are 280+ posts in (I haven't read 90% of the posts), so has anything been setup or is this thread pretty much pointless and just back and forth drivel?
ROALMFAO ,, maybe after it was rerun 200 timesThe first game we played was "the 6/7,and the Last 4".....she beat me, then we adjusted and I managed to get even......she's a great player, at times she plays better than me.
I believe Vivian, and I played a match on ESPN for more than anyone in history (on ESPN).
Click here to see some highlights from that match....
I was told by Gary Morgenstern (the producer) over 2.8 Million people viewed this world-wide.... 600 international hours of exposure overall (app).
This match was for a total of $100,000....we haven't seen that duplicated in a while.
ROALMFAO ,, maybe after it was rerun 200 times
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Pointless back & forth drivel. Keith has stated that the "internet" can stake him if they want to see him play.
Ain't happening. Nobody cares.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=5009737&postcount=189
ONB
I agree with much that you wrote but must take exception to the middle paragraph. First of all, Keith was 11 years younger at that US Open. 46 years old is not old & dead in the game of pool. I would also ask you this; Do you think his constant consumption of alcohol during his matches helped him get that far or do you think it may have led to his demise in the end?
If you want to think about things you need to think about both sides of it.
ONB
All the more reason to be amazed!
I just know that 99.99% of all pool players including pros have not finished 3rd or better in the US Open - ever! (give or take a few hundredths). Especially at 47 and being out of the game a long time for a lot of hard years. This isn't luck. It's enormous personal talent and a mind for competition. It's also due to his ability to intimidate his opponents.
Keith was a personal mess after surviving a very hard life. Most of us would not know what it was like to grow up like that. Let's give credit for the amazing pool player he was. He pretty much crapped on everybody at 9 ball and gave them weight to boot.
All the more reason to be amazed!
I just know that 99.99% of all pool players including pros have not finished 3rd or better in the US Open - ever! (give or take a few hundredths). Especially at 47 and being out of the game a long time for a lot of hard years. This isn't luck. It's enormous personal talent and a mind for competition. It's also due to his ability to intimidate his opponents.
Keith was a personal mess after surviving a very hard life. Most of us would not know what it was like to grow up like that. Let's give credit for the amazing pool player he was. He pretty much crapped on everybody at 9 ball and gave them weight to boot.
I started playing pool in 1969 at the age of 15. By the age of 17 I could run 50 balls in straight pool. By the age of 21 I spent a lot of time gambling, mostly in bars. From my personal experience most of us played either shit faced on booze and/or were doing cocaine or crank or black beauties.Most of the US Pro Players were doing the same thing.
Luckily I quit playing pool and drugs when I was 27 and went back to school and ended up in the Aerospace Industry as a Manager and retired when I was 59...~ 18 months ago. I started playing pool again in 2007 at the age of 53 and I never drink when I am playing.
I can fully appreciate what Keith and a host of others must of went through living day to day on the road and I salute him for staying sober and turning his life around with Jennie Lee.
Sorry, just had to get that off of my chest
Wedge
I started playing pool in 1969 at the age of 15. By the age of 17 I could run 50 balls in straight pool. By the age of 21 I spent a lot of time gambling, mostly in bars. From my personal experience most of us played either shit faced on booze and/or were doing cocaine or crank or black beauties.Most of the US Pro Players were doing the same thing.
Luckily I quit playing pool and drugs when I was 27 and went back to school and ended up in the Aerospace Industry as a Manager and retired when I was 59...~ 18 months ago. I started playing pool again in 2007 at the age of 53 and I never drink when I am playing.
I can fully appreciate what Keith and a host of others must of went through living day to day on the road and I salute him for staying sober and turning his life around with Jennie Ann.
Sorry, just had to get that off of my chest
Wedge
Lance Armstrong was a strong example of how an incredible career can be ruined in a matter of days.
Alcoholism and drug addition are diseases, no different {according to the AMA} than cancer, or diabetes. My hat's off to all athletes that have had their battle with "performance enhancing drugs," including steroids and HGH - and lived a healthy, happy, productive life.
Lance Armstrong was a strong example of how an incredible career can be ruined in a matter of days. Pool players are mild cases compared to biking, football, baseball, etc - even snooker players have had their share of addictive personalities.
Anyone that read his book knows even Andre Agassi did "meth" during tennis matches.....who would ever have guessed?
I started playing pool in 1969 at the age of 15. By the age of 17 I could run 50 balls in straight pool. By the age of 21 I spent a lot of time gambling, mostly in bars. From my personal experience most of us played either shit faced on booze and/or were doing cocaine or crank or black beauties.Most of the US Pro Players were doing the same thing.
Luckily I quit playing pool and drugs when I was 27 and went back to school and ended up in the Aerospace Industry as a Manager and retired when I was 59...~ 18 months ago. I started playing pool again in 2007 at the age of 53 and I never drink when I am playing.
I can fully appreciate what Keith and a host of others must of went through living day to day on the road and I salute him for staying sober and turning his life around with Jennie Ann.
Sorry, just had to get that off of my chest
Wedge
The number of Addicts and Alcoholics I'm relativly sure is much higher in pool ,,
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Actually pool players aren't the highest.*
* In 2007 the Substance Abuse and Mental Health
Administration Study looked at current drug use among 21 major occupational groups from 2002 through 2004. The study found that an annual average of approximately 9.4 million current illicit drug users and 10.1 million heavy alcohol users were employed full-time during that period.
The occupational groups with the highest prevalence of current drug use among full-time workers were:
Food preparation and serving (17.4 percent)
Construction (15.1 percent)
Arts, design, entertainment, sports, and media (12.4 percent)
Sales (9.6 percent)
Installation, maintenance, and repair (9.5 percent)
The study found the highest rates of current heavy alcohol use among construction, mining, excavation and drilling workers (17.8 percent), and installation, maintenance, and repair workers (14.7 percent).
Pool Hustling is an Occupational Group...get real!
Wedge
Actually pool players aren't the highest.*
* In 2007 the Substance Abuse and Mental Health
Administration Study looked at current drug use among 21 major occupational groups from 2002 through 2004. The study found that an annual average of approximately 9.4 million current illicit drug users and 10.1 million heavy alcohol users were employed full-time during that period.
The occupational groups with the highest prevalence of current drug use among full-time workers were:
Food preparation and serving (17.4 percent)
Construction (15.1 percent)
Arts, design, entertainment, sports, and media (12.4 percent)
Sales (9.6 percent)
Installation, maintenance, and repair (9.5 percent)
The study found the highest rates of current heavy alcohol use among construction, mining, excavation and drilling workers (17.8 percent), and installation, maintenance, and repair workers (14.7 percent).
Actually pool players aren't the highest.*
* In 2007 the Substance Abuse and Mental Health
Administration Study looked at current drug use among 21 major occupational groups from 2002 through 2004. The study found that an annual average of approximately 9.4 million current illicit drug users and 10.1 million heavy alcohol users were employed full-time during that period.
The occupational groups with the highest prevalence of current drug use among full-time workers were:
Food preparation and serving (17.4 percent)
Construction (15.1 percent)
Arts, design, entertainment, sports, and media (12.4 percent)
Sales (9.6 percent)
Installation, maintenance, and repair (9.5 percent)
The study found the highest rates of current heavy alcohol use among construction, mining, excavation and drilling workers (17.8 percent), and installation, maintenance, and repair workers (14.7 percent).
For what it's worth polls have shown that among college sports Lacrosse has the highest drug use BY FAR and is tied with Hockey I believe for alcohol abuse....or was it Rugby
Pool of course would not be measured because it isn't a college sport by any realistic measure...a handful of college "club" teams is really all it is.
BTW are pool players the least educated group of "pros" or would that be rodeo cowboys?
Obviously pool has a alcohol problem....look where 95% is played.