CA$H Cues - Tommy's Contact Info

brandoncook26 said:
From what I understand, there are two "Tommy''s". Tommy Stanfill was Hangemhigh.

Tommy Hindman is one of the two proprietors of Cash Cues. Although Tony Zinzola said the package he recieved from Hangemhigh had a return address of Hindman, so maybe he was living with him or something.

Very confusing situation
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I did a disastrous deal with hangemhigh n I sent the package to a Tucker Hindman.
 
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brandoncook26 said:
From what I understand, there are two "Tommy''s". Tommy Stanfill was Hangemhigh.

Tommy Hindman is one of the two proprietors of Cash Cues. Although Tony Zinzola said the package he recieved from Hangemhigh had a return address of Hindman,
so maybe he was living with him or something.

Very confusing situation
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and has the same paypal address too????
:scratchhead:
 
I had several very positive transactions with Tommy, great communication and excellent products delivered. What a shame, I hope everyone hurting is made whole again, as soon as possible.

-don
 
JB Cases said:
This is what makes it all curious for me. Bill McDaniel made Kelli cases. Then he quit doing that and Sam Engles started in the same town. Then Bill sells out his cue making shop and Tommy Stanfill shows up connected to them through Cash cues and always has Engels cases for sale and then finds a box of diary locks to sell......

Btw just to throw a little damn gas on the fire but can someone tell me how the diary locks were supposed to be installed using the hardware provided? The rivets were too short to go through the double layer of tubing and one would have had to remove the liner to be able to put a rivet in anyway. Did anyone successfully install one of these locks?

BTW Roy Malott say that if Tommy is Sam then add the $850 he is owed for cases he never got to the amount that everyone else is out.

I'd sure like to know the real story here. From a voyeur's point of view. Also for the overseas people. YOU can file charges with your local police departments and they SHOULD know how to inform the local police department in Tommy/Sam's jurisdiction. That's what I was told anyway.

You can always just call the police there and see what they tell you.

And if you communicated through email (or telephone) then it's international wire fraud and the FBI has a place for that where you can also file charges if it comes to that. Get with Lisa, ridewiththewind, on here as she knows the links I believe.
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Thanks,

I'll probably end up going to Army Legal and see what they say. I have free access to them and free legal advice so hopefully they can point me in the right direction if this isn't amicably resolved.

r,

Greg
 
So, after a little searching today, I came across another pool related site http://jimboarmy.com/phpbb3/index.php.

And wouldn't you know it, there was a member named Tommy Stanfill. The nice thing about this website is that it tells you the last time someone even accessed the site. Tommy Stanfill, last active August 8, 2011. So, it doesn't look like he is dead or in jail.

Come on Tommy, I know you are reading this and watching AZ Billiards. Make it right for all of us that stood up for you and your excellent product.

I'll pay shipping!

R,

Greg
 
Tommy Stanfill is Tommy Hindman,same Person.
Tommy Clements is the SECOND Former from World Class with JESS JUNE. Hope it is cleared about Wourld Class and this Guys are world CLASS too.
I know he read here:TOMMY make it right
Ralf
 
I guess the fact he calls himself a "known sinner" should have been our first clue? just sayin
 
SOULHASSORROW said:
Dam, AZ starting to look worse than EBAY!!! Hopefully everything gets sorted out for the OP!
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Birk1 said:
I guess the fact he calls himself a "known sinner" should have been our first clue? just sayin
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And this is the reason that I don't buy things from this site. As much as I love this forum, there are just too many "upstanding" members here who have ripped people off.

Also, Tommy, you broke commandment number 8...

God said:
Thou shalt not steal
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God is mad at you.
 
I would think with Jackson being dead between Nashville and Memphis that it would not be hard to talk "Guido and Tony" into taking a ride out... Since you have an address there is likely someone there they could "talk" to.... Just an observation...........
 
I, too hope this gets cleared up and people made whole.

Health issues? Months ago, I called him following up on a slow deal. An elderly sounding lady answered and said Tommy was at a Doctor's appointment.

When I contacted the World Class shop, Jess said that he doesn't do business with "AZ Billiards" Tommy anymore.

My loss is small compared to most. I've probably lost one of my good playing shafts and am out some money for a new LD shaft, and out 1/2 of my old shaft dowels order.

Mostly, I would like to get my original shaft back.

I hope this all has a good outcome. Tommy-we need to hear from you. You have done many flawless deals. Maybe this can get worked out.

What's going on?
 
The Renfro said:
I would think with Jackson being dead between Nashville and Memphis that it would not be hard to talk "Guido and Tony" into taking a ride out... Since you have an address there is likely someone there they could "talk" to.... Just an observation...........
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Not a good idea. People down south like to be armed. No one needs to die over some pool cues.

But a lawsuit and criminal charges with a lien being put against the property and a sheriff's auction to raise funds to pay back the victims would be something worth pursuing. L unfortunately most of the amounts probably qualify for more than small claims. But interstate and international wire fraud has much lower limits.

The sad part is that most of the merchandise is probably sitting there. At least that could be returned. The money is probably long gone.
 
Tommy, my Cue is 90% finished please take it to Jess and my Guncase/Szamboti Shirts too. I will pay the finishing my Cue to JessJune, so the lost is not so much.
Ralf
 
So I know that cash cue's and world class cues are out of the same shop......right? So who is the maker of which line of cue?
And so far this guy has three different alias....three different names.....tommy stanfill......Tommy Hindman........and Sam Engles .......normally people don't need that many identities
 
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ComptonCustomCues said:
So I know that cash cue's and world class cues are out of the same shop......right? So who is the maker of which line of cue?
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Jess June and Tommy Clements (different Tommy, not the same one we are talking about here) build both Ca$h Cues and World Class Cues. Same cue, different logos. Originally, World Class were to be higher end cues, while Ca$h cues were lower. Sam Engles started selling them using the Ca$h name.

The cuemakers of these cues are superb. Plus, they both are super good, honest guys. At the time, neither read AZ and didn't know Engles was representing himself as the maker/shop owner of Ca$h cues.

BTW, I have a cue nearly completed from Jess. I'm really looking forward to getting it. I've only heard great things about this shop and the cues that come out of there.
 
Why dont you guys go after the shop that made the cues? I understand everyone on this thread is saying they are "good guys" but they were clearly in business with the "bad Tommy", whatever his name is.

They all seem to have been business partners at one time, from the information in this thread. Going after them might be better because they probably have either money or product to pay you back.

Again, it doesn't matter in my eyes if the cue builders were good or not. If they were partners with the "bad Tommy" then they are also responsible. I would imagine the legal view would be the same.

I have no dog in this fight just offering my 2 cents...
 
iusedtoberich said:
Why dont you guys go after the shop that made the cues? I understand everyone on this thread is saying they are "good guys" but they were clearly in business with the "bad Tommy", whatever his name is.

They all seem to have been business partners at one time, from the information in this thread. Going after them might be better because they probably have either money or product to pay you back.

Again, it doesn't matter in my eyes if the cue builders were good or not. If they were partners with the "bad Tommy" then they are also responsible. I would imagine the legal view would be the same.

I have no dog in this fight just offering my 2 cents...
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June and Clements built cues for Engles. They weren't partners. Engles was just a dealer buying cues for resale. Nothing more. No cuemaker can/should be held responsible for their dealers' actions. As soon as the shop found out about what was going on, they dropped Engles.
 
iusedtoberich said:
Why dont you guys go after the shop that made the cues? I understand everyone on this thread is saying they are "good guys" but they were clearly in business with the "bad Tommy", whatever his name is.

They all seem to have been business partners at one time, from the information in this thread. Going after them might be better because they probably have either money or product to pay you back.

Again, it doesn't matter in my eyes if the cue builders were good or not. If they were partners with the "bad Tommy" then they are also responsible. I would imagine the legal view would be the same.

I have no dog in this fight just offering my 2 cents...
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I don't agree. Bad Tommy was a dealer who contracted the cuemakers to make his brand of cues. Those cue makers made every cue that they got paid for. They have no relationship with or contract with the ultimate customer for those cues.

As an example I have people who take orders for my cases. They ask me how much this is or that and I quote them and they send me the money. I don't meet the customer, don't talk to them, and have nothing to do with them. If I don't get money paid in advance then I don't make the case. I can't do anything if the middleman runs off with the money.

The ONLY time which I would get involved and feel some responsibility is when I specifically list someone as my dealer and thus vouch for them.

The court may see it differently but I doubt it. They may assign culpability if I knowingly allowed a person to be associated with my business in such a fashion as to allow any reasonable consumer to think that said person represented my business. I don't get the sense that this was the case here. I sense that there are two cuemakers who had a guy hanging out with them and bringing in orders for his own "brand" without really worrying too much about how that guy was dealing with his customers. After all that was his private label brand which theoretically he could have taken to any other cuemaker at any time. (speculating heavily here).

On the face of it the cue makers are blameless in this. But they can and should cooperate with the customers and law enforcement to force a resolution. IMO
 
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