Center Pocket Music, the long-awaited CTE Pro One book, by Stan Shuffett.

[lfigueroa]

Not cataracts yet. My dominant eye has developed an astigmatism to go along with the far sightedness so the soft contact lens' I've had for many years can't make that one see clear any more. Trouble seeing the edge of the ball at distance. Glasses really screw things up worse though. Been trying to wear a hard contact in that eye because it will correct the vision but it's been hard to get used to wearing for me. Better cue ball shape would eliminate the need to see sharply but that's another struggle.

I know some people who cataract surgery did wonders for their pool game as well.

Unless there’s something else going on you can get soft lenses to correct for astigmatism — wore them for years.

My optometrist has been urging me to get the cataract surgery done for the last couple of years and I’ll probably do it later this year. Only thing holding me back is that at my pool hall three guys have had it done the last year and none of them have been 100% happy with the outcome.

Lou Figueroa

 

[Low500]

Son, you are simply wrong. I don't care what you claim Ed said to you. I know you WHINED about it and I told Ed it was ridiculous. Had I been coached I would have ROBBED you and taken every bit of action. But I guess when you're a dishonest person as you are then you have a hard time being honest about any situation in your life. Can't even give me credit for any good shots I made....had to be because I was coached....like I said a SORE WINNER. Now son, do you think that I would ever want to play you again if I thought that I lost while getting coached by a world class player? I mean I would have to know that without that help I wouldn't have a prayer. Yet I not only addressed this when you brought it up on this forum I said clearly that I would play you for MORE MONEY and we could set it up to insure that neither of us had any communication with anyone else. I will play you in a room with no other people and a single camera. You're just a shitty player and an even shittier person.
But if you want to act like a duck, quack like a duck then you're a duck.

This is my opinion and my opinion only. I have, however, seen this work very effectively several times when big money was at stake.
I agree that the only way to have and settle a grudge match is all alone with no witnesses and no backers. Just the two combatants.
No handshakes, no 'being nice'....put up the money, shoot pool, and have at it until one hollers "enough".
Then if one of the players tries to do any beer joint foul stuff or act like a barbarian, the other can simply deal with it as a street thing right then and there. One man's word against the other man's word.
OR.....hire two armed, off duty policemen to sit there with just the two players and watch. Have them search the players completely for weapons (still no witnesses but the two cops). That will ensure no violence. (I personally like that)
Otherwise, don't have the match. It will just end up being another "he said, they said" thing like the last one.

 

[JB Cases]

I know I'm sticking my nose in where it doesn't belong but I have to ask whether you plan to deduct your gambling losses again if you lose.

What gambling losses? You mean the expenses for a JB Cases sponsored contest? I told you to stop at "not a tax attorney". If $20,000 leaves my account it will be properly booked as a marketing expense if that is the proper classification. If $20,000 comes into my account then it will be classified as revenue.

I think you meant to ask Lou if he would be claiming the extra income should he win the JB Cases sponsored contest? I think that I am required to give him a 1099 just as he would get if he were to win $20,000 at a major tournament. In any event should I forget to do that it wouldn't absolve him of the requirement to claim the income.

 

[JB Cases]

This is my opinion and my opinion only. I have, however, seen this work very effectively several times when big money was at stake.
I agree that the only way to have and settle a grudge match is all alone with no witnesses and no backers. Just the two combatants.
No handshakes, no 'being nice'....put up the money, shoot pool, and have at it until one hollers "enough".
Then if one of the players tries to do any beer joint foul stuff or act like a barbarian, the other can simply deal with it as a street thing right then and there. One man's word against the other man's word.
OR.....hire two armed, off duty policemen to sit there with just the two players and watch. Have them search the players completely for weapons (still no witnesses but the two cops). That will ensure no violence. (I personally like that)
Otherwise, don't have the match. It will just end up being another "he said, they said" thing like the last one.

Unfortunately we have seen that even with video evidence some people are willing to simply lie when they craft their lie in such a way that it cannot be proven one way or the other. The accusations of coaching were simply another way for their little group to try and shark me.

 

[JB Cases]

Say it all want you, boy, lots of people saw your cheating getting coached by Dennis Spears and posted about it.

So whatever it takes for you to sleep at night...
JB says, “I am not a cheater. I am not a cheater. I am not a cheater.”

Didn’t try and start a fight with Eric either, I suppose.

Lou Figueroa

I didn't. I tried to play him. He threatened me with violence. Just as he did the previous year.

And no a lot of people didn't see it or hear it because it didn't happen.

Eric and you are dishonest people. Your levels of dishonesty and bullying are despicable.

Interestingly through you never attacked him when he was advocating for objective aiming systems. That would have been interesting to see two full blown liars going at it.

 

[JC]

What gambling losses? You mean the expenses for a JB Cases sponsored contest? I told you to stop at "not a tax attorney". If $20,000 leaves my account it will be properly as a marketing expense if that is the proper classification. If $20,000 comes into my account then it will be classified as revenue.

I think you meant to ask Lou if he would be claiming the extra income should he win the JB Cases sponsored contest? I think that I am required to give him a 1099 just as he would get if he were to win $20,000 at a major tournament. In any event should I forget to do that it wouldn't absolve him of the requirement to claim the income.

It would be a lot cheaper to come hang here on the beautiful Oregon coast.

We can play 100 sets and have more fun.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

Unless there’s something else going on you can get soft lenses to correct for astigmatism — wore them for years.

My optometrist has been urging me to get the cataract surgery done for the last couple of years and I’ll probably do it later this year. Only thing holding me back is that at my pool hall three guys have had it done the last year and none of them have been 100% happy with the outcome.

Lou Figueroa

Here's my advice, find out what Dr. did their surgery for those 3 guys and DON'T GO TO THEM! All surgeons are not created equal. Have the cut done with laser instead of by hand and the lens will then be attached. Ask what they do and how they do it...laser or other.

 

[JB Cases]

I’d be sure to claim my win to the IRS because you know he’d be all over THAT, lol.

Lou Figueroa

I don't care what you do with the IRS. You're super duper dumb though if you think you understand how taxes work in business though. I don't know why you act like it would be my problem whether you are honest on your taxes or not.

The right answer is, I would declare extra income because I am an honest citizen. Not, I would declare because someone else might report that they paid me.

Thanks again for letting us know that you only do the right thing when you are scared of being caught not doing it. Your ethics are an inspiration to all.

 

[JB Cases]

It would be a lot cheaper to come hang here on the beautiful Oregon coast.

We can play 100 sets and have more fun.

True. I can say that based on intimate experience that just about every activity is more fun than spending time in lou's proximity.

I have a standing invite to visit my friends in Colorado so maybe time to plan a summer road trip.

 

[JB Cases]

Nice video. What size table? Also, he shows the tip placement with each shot. It would be interesting to know which CTE perception he is using and where the ball would go without any spin. Is that in there somewhere?

I don't know. His name is right there and you can find him and ask him.

I am guessing though that you didn't really read his answer to a question that interestingly was very close to the way you attempted to discredit Stan on the same subject.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

Unless there’s something else going on you can get soft lenses to correct for astigmatism — wore them for years.

Yep. I've worn them for a decade or so, only to shoot pool. They also correct for some far sightedness, so I can't tell how big a part the astigmatism correction plays, but they work fine.

pj
chgo

 

[JB Cases]

I said essentially the exact same thing about you and you disagreed with me. lol.

Untrue. What you say about me (and other cte users) is that we are self-deluded and in a religious cult.

You don't know why selling a product under false pretenses is a problem? The dollar amount shouldn't matter, and $100 is not chump change for many people. Simply put, Stan makes claims he does not and cannot know are true. He even says he doesn't know how it happens, but he is sure that it does. Those claims make his method very attractive to the average players who probably don't even know what the hell Stan is really claiming. (If they did they'd probably think twice). Why don't you infuse your cases with some Chinese chi while the kids are over there making your cases in their "school"? Then you can show how that chi is transferred to the cue, helping the player do better. I think it will improve sales.

Just some ideas...

What false pretenses? You're really one of those keyboard lawyers aren't you?

False pretense is knowingly communicating false information for personal or commercial gain. Intent is the key concept here. If someone intends to deceive and they do then they have operated under a false pretense.

If a person makes a claim that they fully believe to be true and there is no way to prove that they knew otherwise then they will likely never be charged with or prosecuted for fraud.

If a person makes a claim that cannot be proven to be untrue and the likelihood of being true or substantially true is high then they will not be charged with operating under false pretenses.

Do you honestly think that you could prove that Stan is deliberately selling something that he knows does not work as claimed? If so then prove it.

Or are you simply looking to nitpick and try to say that you don't agree with any claim of being objective without a qualifying statement of how objective it is?

I am pretty sure that you don't live your life comparing the claims made about products with any disclaimers that might be present. And I am equally sure that you don't act like a one-man version of consumer reports with extensive product testing.

But I can say this with confidence. The difference between 100% objective and 99.9% objective isn't fraud. It is inconsequential and any attempt to discredit the provider would be laughed out of court. Any attorney who would take your money and tell you that you any chance in that regard would be operating under false pretense in my opinion.

As for your little racist comments..... Hard to conceal your true nature when your premises are constantly shot down.

You could use some balance in your chi.

 

[azhousepro]

JC and Spidey. If you two can't play nice with each other, you will be removed from the sandbox.

 

[JC]

Unless there’s something else going on you can get soft lenses to correct for astigmatism — wore them for years.

My optometrist has been urging me to get the cataract surgery done for the last couple of years and I’ll probably do it later this year. Only thing holding me back is that at my pool hall three guys have had it done the last year and none of them have been 100% happy with the outcome.

Lou Figueroa

Yep. I've worn them for a decade or so, only to shoot pool. They also correct for some far sightedness, so I can't tell how big a part the astigmatism correction plays, but they work fine.

pj
chgo

I started out only far sighted so my lenses were just a +1.5-+2.0. Now it's like +3.75-+4.5. My problem is I had radial keratotomy surgery when I was 20, before lazik. I was very nearsighted as a kid.

So the eye doctor says my eyes don't refract properly with the soft lens' due to scarring outside the pupil that makes them distort due to the size of the soft lens. The more tired my eyes get the worse they are. But oddly it's not shooting pool. I can see the table just fine but I can't see who's sitting on the far side of the table. And driving at night is a bitch. So I've been trying to find a solution that will work for all my needs, including sitting in front of a computer screen half the day. Thus the hard lens which actual fixes the vision but is hard to get used to wearing.

I've tried all the astigmaisim correcting soft lens i've been offered and none were much better than just the regular ones.

 

[JC]

JC and Spidey. If you two can't play nice with each other, you will be removed from the sandbox.

Copy but I think we're already over the hump.

 

[Dan White]

I don't know. His name is right there and you can find him and ask him.

I am guessing though that you didn't really read his answer to a question that interestingly was very close to the way you attempted to discredit Stan on the same subject.

I sure did read it. The shooter is all in and loves it. Good for him. It would be interesting to have an actual conversation with him, though I probably won't invest the time and effort. Other than what I already mentioned, I'd like to ask him why he put the hole reinforcers where he did and how he would adjust his banks after moving the ob over an inch and a half.

 

[Dan White]

Untrue. What you say about me (and other cte users) is that we are self-deluded and in a religious cult.

Some of you appear to be but that wasn't the subject at hand. It wasn't even something I had said on the same day. I said that if CTE gave you the shot line it would allow your brain to eliminate the swooping and steering because it would soon realize that you are on the correct shot line and all you have to do is trust it and stroke straight.

What false pretenses? You're really one of those keyboard lawyers aren't you?

Call it what you want. I believe that Stan believes in his own explanation for what is happening while at the same time saying he doesn't know why.

As for your little racist comments.....

Racists are the ones how see racism behind every rock. I haven't seen Chinese sweat shops but I have seen Egyptian ones.

 

[mohrt]

lol.

You welched on every single side bet you said you’d take at the venue. You almost got into a fight with Eric. And as witnessed and testified to here by numerous eye witnesses you cheated in our match by getting coached.


oh, and there was that little incident not so long ago when you got your nose open, played like a spastic monkey on coke, and went off for $10’s of thousands. AND THEN put the lamest sad sack video up on line about the whole thing that was so pathetic that *even I* told you you should take it down.

Lou Figueroa

Cheating by being coached. There you have it, boldly states your biggest edge was knowledge of the game, or rather John’s lack there of. I’ll bet you wouldn’t complain about coaching in a 9-ball match. You’d just lose.

 

[mohrt]

Nice video. What size table? Also, he shows the tip placement with each shot. It would be interesting to know which CTE perception he is using and where the ball would go without any spin. Is that in there somewhere?

He put the visuals in the video description. It looks like 8 ft to me. 3.5” openings is pretty tight.

 

[bbb]

JC and Spidey. If you two can't play nice with each other, you will be removed from the sandbox.

dont you think
this back and forth for 20 years has gone on long enough to shut it down??
the thread not just jc and spidey?
just askin