Congrats to Danny Harriman 379 Ball Run Highest Ever on Video

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watchez said:
Punter was commenting towards me as he has been known to follow my posts around this site. I wasn't trying to hijack but the 526 was brought up first and wanted to know how it was confirmed. Again, I said it was probably Louie's jealousy that made him say that. I believe Louie had a run in the high 300s himself. The affadvait signed is good to me. Back then, I am thinking that people weren't so formal in signing for contracts/affadavits, etc. as they are today. Thus why they didn't print their name, addresses, or other info.
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Watchez, Louie was, no doubt, a great and legendary player. I had the chance to see him play out on California a couple of times when he was probably at the height of his powers.

But... if you know 14.1 (and know Louie was not a straight pool player) it is *highly* unlikely he ever ran 300. That he spread scurrilous, unsubstantiated rumors about Mosconi's run does not help his case.

Lou Figueroa
 
So is it me or has it been quite a minute since talk about posting this video?? LETS SEE IT!!!!! :angry:
 
RunoutJJ said:
So is it me or has it been quite a minute since talk about posting this video?? LETS SEE IT!!!!! :angry:
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I'll say this, along with other recent high runs, is inspiration at its best. It's like seeing major leaguers chasing the home run record. I don't have my table yet, but I can't wait to get to it.

Congratulations to Danny, and good luck to all those chasing the record! What a game.
 
CJ Wiley said:
This record seems to be more impressive than Mosconi's.....anyone disagree?
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They are not really comparable TBH. Mosconi's run was on a 8 foot table with large pockets, which makes pocketing the balls easier but makes clusters more likely and makes scratching the cueball more possible.

Also, Mosconi's high run is WAY over rated as far as his legacy goes. I tend to think his complete dominance of professional pool for about 15 years straight over the likes of Irving Crane, Caras, Ponzi, ect... is the reason he is a legend.

There have been numerous people who have supposedly beaten the 528 run already, getting into the 600's even, but how many of those guys dominated professional pool and all of their peers for over a decade like Mosconi did? None.

At the end of the day if you can run 1200 balls in practice without an opponent but cannot win a worlds when people are sitting there ready to shoot back at you then you and Mosconi should not be mentioned in the same breath, sorry.
 
Post the damn video!!!

I play 9ball and 8ball
I'm 30 yrs old
I've NEVER played 14.1... but I am gonna tomorrow!!

Thanks for the motivation Danny, maybe ill fall in love with a new game or maybe it will at least improve my skills generally.

Congrats Danny!!!

Post the damn video!!!

Ps thank you Jay for stepping up to the plate!
GOD BLESS POOL
 
I doubt if anyone will ever have the chance to be as historic as Willie Mosconi

Celtic said:
They are not really comparable TBH. Mosconi's run was on a 8 foot table with large pockets, which makes pocketing the balls easier but makes clusters more likely and makes scratching the cueball more possible.

Also, Mosconi's high run is WAY over rated as far as his legacy goes. I tend to think his complete dominance of professional pool for about 15 years straight over the likes of Irving Crane, Caras, Ponzi, ect... is the reason he is a legend.

There have been numerous people who have supposedly beaten the 528 run already, getting into the 600's even, but how many of those guys dominated professional pool and all of their peers for over a decade like Mosconi did? None.

At the end of the day if you can run 1200 balls in practice without an opponent but cannot win a worlds when people are sitting there ready to shoot back at you then you and Mosconi should not be mentioned in the same breath, sorry.
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I believe my statement was clear "the record," not "the person".

Most of us doubt that anyone will have the opportunity to be as historic as Willie Mosconi, although I'm told several of the players are on his level or even higher.
 
Congratulations, Danny. one heck of a feat.

As far as others abilities, I remember back in 1993, there was a plague (not sure when it was accomplished) on the wall at RiverCity Billiards, (outside of Cleveland) where Liel Gay (J.R.) ran 326 balls in straight pool.

It was witnessed by others, not video taped.

Also, I had seen Ralph Carnes run over a 100 many times. One time on a double shimmed 9 ft. table from Alan Hopkins old room.

There are a lot of good pool players out there. Hopefully some of these get back into playing and try to beat the record.
 
Celtic said:
They are not really comparable TBH. Mosconi's run was on a 8 foot table with large pockets, which makes pocketing the balls easier but makes clusters more likely and makes scratching the cueball more possible.

Also, Mosconi's high run is WAY over rated as far as his legacy goes. I tend to think his complete dominance of professional pool for about 15 years straight over the likes of Irving Crane, Caras, Ponzi, ect... is the reason he is a legend.

There have been numerous people who have supposedly beaten the 528 run already, getting into the 600's even, but how many of those guys dominated professional pool and all of their peers for over a decade like Mosconi did? None.

At the end of the day if you can run 1200 balls in practice without an opponent but cannot win a worlds when people are sitting there ready to shoot back at you then you and Mosconi should not be mentioned in the same breath, sorry.
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All of the above are excellent points.

But in addition, one of the most remarkable things that sets Mosconi apart for me was his track record of criss-crossing the country for years, walking into a different pool room every night and on unfamiliar equipment, after two warm up racks, run 100 within a couple of innings play.

And then he'd stop and do trick shots -- he didn't care about high runs. Just think if, on what was probably hundreds of 100 ball runs, he had kept going each time. What would the high run really have ended up being?

Lou Figueroa
 
I'm curious.....
I talked to Hawkins in his home room in Decatur after his 19 run that beat
Willie Hoppe's long-standing 18 run at tournament 3-cushion.
The first thing he showed me was the shot that ended the run...( he missed
it by a whisker )

So, I'm wondering about the shot that ended Danny's run....if it was a skid,
that would be brutal.

Can't wait to see the video.....congratulations, Danny.

pt....the red carpet dude
 
First, congratulations to Danny Harriman on his run! I am ready to pounce on the video when it becomes available.

I have never spoken with Danny or had any dealings with him, but I have watched him at tournaments for many years. He has always been, at least when I was watching, a model for our sport.

I have been trapped by the draw into playing John Schmidt a couple of times at tournaments and have paid the price. John is sportsmanlike and courteous. Like me, he would be a lousy "mum" pool player.

I don't think people would have bothered to sign an affidavit attesting to a long run by Mosconi if there had been a missed ball in the middle of it.

Detroit Whitey told me once that he could easily run out the numbered balls on a snooker table without touching the rail with the cue ball, but that he could not do the same thing on a 4.5' x 9' pool table. A smaller table does not always make for an easier game. Consider eight ball on a big table versus eight ball on a bar table.

Anyone who saw Mosconi play an exhibition knows that he simply hit a gear and then could go on in that mode endlessly. The gear kicked in at about the fourth open shot of the session. His ways of opening the rack and then moving the balls into position were without parallel. I think he could have run balls forever in that mode, let alone get to 526.

If we had a local tournament and I had to drive players to the airport, and if John, Danny and Willy had all finished fourth or fifth in the tournament, I would jump on driving John and Danny and leave Willy for someone else to handle, given what I have read.
 
markgw said:
Dude that's a full blown misread. I never said Mosconi's run was bogus or ever in question. There were 33 witnesses that signed an affidavit to authenticate the run alnog with a lawyer in attendance. This is a thread about Danny's run and I congratulated him on that incredible feat!! It's unreal to me when someone can put a run like that together...I was only wondering why there were two stories from Willie about the run. He probably ran so many balls all the time that details began to get fuzzy:-). His 2 quotes are below

In his autobiography, "Willie's Game," Willie (with co-author Stanley Cohen) writes: "I finally missed a difficult cut shot, but by that time I was weary; it was almost a relief to have it come to an end..

Mosconi often rapped around nostalgia with a run of 526 balls he says --"I never did miss," he says, "I got tired and quit.
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Ive read that also that he missed a hard shot.... here in this vid he says he got tired at 7:20 of the vid.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRKw56oAA-E I wonder why the 2 different stories
 
Q: In order for a sporting record to become official does it need to be in competition under competition rules, conditions and scrutiny?
 
Slasher said:
Q: In order for a sporting record to become official does it need to be in competition under competition rules, conditions and scrutiny?
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I believe that it used to be it has to be either in competition or an attended exhibition. In other words runs in practice don't count. I don't know if that has changed with the innovation of video and such.
 
Exhibitions are the same as practice...and video should be held to the highest standard. Since tournaments are to 100, 150 or 200, a tournament can't facilitate a high run record.

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AtLarge said:
sjm -- Here's a report (reliability unknown) of a higher prime-number run of 491 by Thomas Engert: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=3924030&postcount=27

And here's a report of a 421 (also a prime number) by Allen Hopkins: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=2456097&postcount=17

[Note the 492 for Engert at the top of that list -- makes me wonder about the other report of 491 for him!]
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OK, guess Danny will have to settle for highest prime numbered run ever on video.
 
The Clock of Life!

JoeyA said:
Excellent point Lenny!

The clock of life is wound but once,
And no man has the power
To tell just when the hands will stop
At late or early hour.

To lose one's wealth is sad indeed,
To lose one's health is more,
To lose one's soul is such a loss
That no man can restore.

The present only is our own,
So Live, Love, toil with a will --
Place no faith in 'Tomorrow' --
For the clock may then be still.

Robert H. Smith
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Thats good Joey, something we all should live by, here's something else I thought was good too!



" We shall pass this way on Earth but once, if there is any kindness we can show or good act we can do , let us do it now, for we will never pass this way again!"

Stephan Grellet




David Harcrow
 
catpool9 said:
" We shall pass this way on Earth but once, if there is any kindness we can show or good act we can do , let us do it now, for we will never pass this way again!"

Stephan Grellet




David Harcrow
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On the other hand, there's Mark Twain....
"I didn't believe in reincarnation in my last life...and I don't believe in it this one."

pt..<...ran 527 in a past life
 
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