They said throughout the event, the 2 & 3 did not have to be on the corners as that rule was not in place. If he chose to put them there, that was his own doing.
Corey's 10-Ball soft break
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They said throughout the event, the 2 & 3 did not have to be on the corners as that rule was not in place. If he chose to put them there, that was his own doing.
I assumed it to be a rule, if it was not as you mentioned, he was "really" pattern racking
.Dave
It sounds like Corey was adapting a 14.1 break for this version of 10-ball. Pretty ingenious.
If you're going to use rules like "must push-out after the break" you've got to expect that players are going to adapt their style of play.
Corey is one of my favorite players. I enjoy his "swing for the fences" style, especially in one-pocket. Remember his adapting the "make the 8-ball break" for one-pocket? He just has to remember to call the opposite pocket then everyone assumes
If you're going to use rules like "must push-out after the break" you've got to expect that players are going to adapt their style of play.
Corey is one of my favorite players. I enjoy his "swing for the fences" style, especially in one-pocket. Remember his adapting the "make the 8-ball break" for one-pocket? He just has to remember to call the opposite pocket then everyone assumes
Yay! Girl power! Nice to learn that a female is commentating a pool match! I love that! I wish I could have heard it.
Corey just has this way about him when it comes to mastering equipment. If there's a will, Corey will find the way! :thumbup:
Is there any pro that doesnt pattern rack? I dont know any
See post #10 in this thread.
Ive seen Corey use this break a lot more that just one set and I promise his winning percentage is over 50%
I don't have a problem with him trying this. However, I don't think anybody should be allowed to pattern rack and therefore be playing the same basic pattern every time. That should not be allowed
If your opponent is doing it and you aren't you are giving up an advantage. Hard to prevent that if they are playing rack your own.
A good option is the magic rack with opponent racking. Takes all the rack mechanic stuff out of the game.
that option should be mandatory then because pattern racking for rack your own is absurd
the break and rack these days are taking away from the strong parts of the Game
I agree, part of the game is to rack for your opponent where they can't make a ball legally.
The emphasis on the break and rack these days are taking away from the strong parts of the Game. It's now just a "watered down" version.....no wonder the streams aren't getting much activity.
I agree, part of the game is to rack for your opponent where they can't make a ball legally.
The emphasis on the break and rack these days are taking away from the strong parts of the Game. It's now just a "watered down" version.....no wonder the streams aren't getting much activity.
I wouldn't categorize my reaction to Corey's soft breaking & pattern racking as "indignant." As PoolJunkie216 said, I had more of a problem with the pattern racking than the soft break. It became incredibly boring & tedious to see virtually the same locations of the same balls after Corey's breaks & based on the comments in the chat room, I think most, but definitely not all, of the viewers agreed with me.
As far as comparing Corey's soft 10 ball break to that of the opening 14.1 break, the major difference is that, usually, it only occurs once. From that point on, the balls are eventually broken out from the stack & pocketed with a different break shot each time until the game is over. Apples & oranges...
It is my opinion that your opponent should rack for you & you for your opponent. If the time taken to rack the balls becomes an issue, then a tournament official should take over the racking from the player and/or players. If you want to pattern rack for your opponent to make his run out more difficult if he pockets a ball, have at it. If you are so confident in your racking ability that you think you can prevent your opponent from pocketing a ball, pattern rack it for an easy run out for yourself.
But we all know what they say about opinions - everybody has one...
Mary Kenniston
As far as comparing Corey's soft 10 ball break to that of the opening 14.1 break, the major difference is that, usually, it only occurs once. From that point on, the balls are eventually broken out from the stack & pocketed with a different break shot each time until the game is over. Apples & oranges...
It is my opinion that your opponent should rack for you & you for your opponent. If the time taken to rack the balls becomes an issue, then a tournament official should take over the racking from the player and/or players. If you want to pattern rack for your opponent to make his run out more difficult if he pockets a ball, have at it. If you are so confident in your racking ability that you think you can prevent your opponent from pocketing a ball, pattern rack it for an easy run out for yourself.
But we all know what they say about opinions - everybody has one...
Mary Kenniston
Yeah, but I am still right if I disregard that fact.:embarrassed2::embarrassed2:
Of course it depends on what rules the promoter/TD decides to use but at least some of the soft breaks violated two rules: It is unsportsmanlike conduct under some sets of rules to pattern rack. It is required under some sets of rules for four object balls to hit cushions on the break shot, as in: '(b) if no ball is pocketed, at least four object balls must be driven to one or more rails, or the shot is a foul."
Neither of these rules was in effect at the SBE.
Neither of these rules was in effect at the SBE.
Mr. Jewett, what is your take on the idea that it is within the racker's rights to attempt to rack in such a fashion that it makes it difficult on the breaker?
Ken