That's the only spot on the video I can see his slip stroke. Wish there was a shot of him from the side.
Freddie <~~~ sometimes slips,... not on purpose
Cowboy Jimmy Moore Interview
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That's the only spot on the video I can see his slip stroke. Wish there was a shot of him from the side.
Freddie <~~~ sometimes slips,... not on purpose
The French carom players from a hundred years ago called it the martyr’s chair.
https://youtu.be/bY2wCC9EXIc?t=559
Two shots later. Not to devolve into an aiming discussion but I noticed he lined up on the inside of the cue ball regardless of where he was going to strike it.
Another tidbit about Jimmy Moore. If you watch the Irving Crane 150 and out Jimmy Moore is in the audience puffing on a cigar. I'm guessing he must have been in the tournament. I wonder if there is a reel of tape inside a can on a shelf somewhere of more matches from that tournament.
i was thinking the same thing as i watched that video
alstl thanks for the links
I saw in person Crane run a 141 in a tournament in Elizabeth N.J. sometime around 1964 or so.
I was 10 feet away.
Hardest shot he had was a puppy dog cross side bank.
For some reason when I'm on my phone the video link doesn't jump to a specific point, but there is a good view at around or maybe just before the 14 min mark.
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Check it out at the 12:40 mark, Jimmy shoots a combo with a great view of his slip stroke.
There once was a player named Puckett,
Who was actually not from Nantucket.
Three to two stood the score,
When he played Jimmy Moore,
Then he made the nine ball and said, "Well, I'll be a son of a gun!"
Ah.....the tyranny of rhyme
That slip stroke is really something. I've seen videos of guys using a slip stroke where the back hand barely moves. Jimmy's moved a lot. It's so fluid. As much of a lost art in pool today as the drop kick in the nfl.
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I worked in the Golden Cue pool room on Menaul Blvd when Bud Bartic owned it and where Jimmy practiced every day. This would have been in the mid to late 60's. The man would take a tray of balls to the front table, about 10 ft in front of my counter. He only practiced straight pool and never used a rack to rack the balls. He would gather the balls into a pyramid on the end rail and roll them toward the spot,and stop all fourteen balls in exactly the right spot for his break shot. He normally practiced for 90 to 120 minutes and I cannot guess how many times I have watched him and in that amount of time never saw him miss a ball or have what could be considered a tough shot.
The one match I saw him play was at the Sport Bowl on Second Street next to the Greyhound bus station. A young kid named Ronnie Allen came through town and wanted to play. They matched up with Jimmy giving Allen the eight ball playing 9-ball. They played 35 games and with Jimmy up one game Allen drug up and made the comment "I can find easier action than this anywhere in the country." And he was probably right.
At that time Albuquerque had some pretty salty players who lived here and they would match up with some of the road players. If the roadies were good enough to win some money playing these guys, they almost always got the big head and wanted to try Jimmy before they left. And many times Jimmy had to buy them a bus ticket so they could get back home. He was a very strong player for a very long time.
The one match I saw him play was at the Sport Bowl on Second Street next to the Greyhound bus station. A young kid named Ronnie Allen came through town and wanted to play. They matched up with Jimmy giving Allen the eight ball playing 9-ball. They played 35 games and with Jimmy up one game Allen drug up and made the comment "I can find easier action than this anywhere in the country." And he was probably right.
At that time Albuquerque had some pretty salty players who lived here and they would match up with some of the road players. If the roadies were good enough to win some money playing these guys, they almost always got the big head and wanted to try Jimmy before they left. And many times Jimmy had to buy them a bus ticket so they could get back home. He was a very strong player for a very long time.
I never met him, but in the video he comes across as one of the nicest guy you could hope to find in the pool room.
Took me 2 sittings to get through it. Great history. I love listing to the old stories. Cowboy was a class act.
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The Old Jaybird
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In the mid 1990s, I took a contract job in Albuquerque for the State of NM and was at the Sky Box pool room when I saw this old man, could barely walk around the table without holding on, shooting by himself. ONE SHOT, and I thought, man this guy is old, but he can sure shoot pool, stroke as smooth as oiled ball bearings.
It was Cowboy Jimmy Moore. Even then, he was 20 times the player I ever was. That stroke was amazing.
It was Cowboy Jimmy Moore. Even then, he was 20 times the player I ever was. That stroke was amazing.
he was about the best with the slip stroke. i picked it up basically from seeing him thinking it was the holy grail. it was for awhile but it kills your action as it scares the life out of most players. so i gave it up for good. quite a few old timers used it even mosconi for some of his time.
it is really good and keeps the cue moving thru your stroke so it stays straight.
also as said he just was a great guy. played better than anyone even on his downside. kind of.
puckett could never beat him but close. these guys were still great but older and kept their game and life on the road.
pucket was a great hustler and jimmy just got up and played all out. as far as ive ever heard. im sure he stalled in spots he was unknown, we all did . thats how you make money.
we called 9 ball a bust out game. meaning to win you had to show your speed so you busted out your game in front of the room. smart players didn't play 9 ball unless they had so much the best of it they could stall. the fools played their speed and got broke as soon as they met someone better on their home table. guys like cole, louie, ritchie, keith, matlock,blackie, whitey, cj, cecil,washington, etc all go broke when they get beat and the list goes on and on. being a top or near top player gets you broke as everyone knows exactly your speed if known and you end up only in games you cant win at for the most part.
the smart ones key in on a particular person and take off a big score . few ever kept it though.
it is really good and keeps the cue moving thru your stroke so it stays straight.
also as said he just was a great guy. played better than anyone even on his downside. kind of.
puckett could never beat him but close. these guys were still great but older and kept their game and life on the road.
pucket was a great hustler and jimmy just got up and played all out. as far as ive ever heard. im sure he stalled in spots he was unknown, we all did . thats how you make money.
we called 9 ball a bust out game. meaning to win you had to show your speed so you busted out your game in front of the room. smart players didn't play 9 ball unless they had so much the best of it they could stall. the fools played their speed and got broke as soon as they met someone better on their home table. guys like cole, louie, ritchie, keith, matlock,blackie, whitey, cj, cecil,washington, etc all go broke when they get beat and the list goes on and on. being a top or near top player gets you broke as everyone knows exactly your speed if known and you end up only in games you cant win at for the most part.
the smart ones key in on a particular person and take off a big score . few ever kept it though.
Lucky man.
This video is the clearest video that I’ve seen of Jimmy’s slip stroke. First of which is @ the 2:20 mark but you can see it throughout the video.