One will become better at aiming, not the overall game. There is much more than just aiming in playing great pool. Funny how so many want to make aiming the biggest key to being a champion. It's important, but without the other keys, it will only help one so much. It's in increasing all the keys that one becomes a champion. CTE is just one of the keys.
CTE for Top USA pros
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One will become better at aiming, not the overall game. There is much more than just aiming in playing great pool. Funny how so many want to make aiming the biggest key to being a champion. It's important, but without the other keys, it will only help one so much. It's in increasing all the keys that one becomes a champion. CTE is just one of the keys.
I can be very serious but you mention transport devices then I pull my horns in.
Stan Shuffett
Neil - Sorry but you're just not making sense.
If someone gets better at one aspect of the game, any aspect, then their overall game will get better. This is assuming that other parts of their game hasn't gotten worse.
Isn't that obvious?
If someone gets better at one aspect of the game, any aspect, then their overall game will get better. This is assuming that other parts of their game hasn't gotten worse.
Isn't that obvious?
Because learning how to pocket balls more effectively (by any method) isn't going to turn you into a pro.
Pocketing balls is just one aspect of this game. Not sure how many more times it has to be said.
It's not like you are ready to take on Phil Ivey heads up after you learn about pot odds.
CTE is not limited to making a ball.....CTE is an overall complete approach to playing.
Visually. Physically.
All shots. Straight ins. Cuts Banks Caronms. Safety. Double kiss banks. Masses. Jumps.
And more....
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You say you have been playing for 45+ years, are a self-proclaimed expert on every topic on here, yet you have no clue why your statement above is pure poppy-cock? Guess you have never seen the B players that rarely miss, yet can't run 3 racks because they can't play position worth a lick.
Also, no one stated that improved aiming won't result in more wins. I did state that just improving aiming won't necessarily move one up in level. If that were to be true, then one could easily state what 5 steps are necessary to move up each level to pro (AAA) Since one only has to learn one thing to move up a level.
Since everyone starts at a D level, you then have C, B, A, AA, AAA. 5 levels of play. Since you want to equate aiming to moving up to another level, which level would that be, and what are the other 4 things one must learn to move up to pro? Must be a real easy game to learn if there are only 5 things one must learn to be a pro.
Or is it simply that your argument above holds no water?
That's very true Stan. However, you are talking the graduate course there. These guys are still arguing the very basics.
Exactly! Many will completely understand one day what CTE is all about and really appreciate what I am doing. I hope I live to see that......
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Throw in some "spending money" for their troubles and I am sure you can get a few of the pros to sing like a canary for you...
It is really sort of sad that you say that.....I do not work that way. I would take a bamboo whipping before I'd stoop to that level.
Stan Shuffett
Yes, agree the game involves so much more. But, we are talking about pro players. These guys have no glaring weaknesses in any part of their games. And maybe just slight weaknesses in specific parts of their games. So, if a pro player makes an improvement in just one facet, one could make the case that it will help their overall game to an observable amount.
Contrast that with a player like me, an intermediate player. I have many glaring weaknesses in my game. Bringing up one small facet will do comparatively little to improve my overall game.
Do you really expect any better of Lou?
When someone expects dishonesty from a person .... Its because that's what they would do. You expect someone to cheat if you're a cheat yourself.
Says a lot about Lou
You are offering the top pros your "free" training with travel, room, and board, with the requirement they make a public statement or three about the system after the training is complete. It already sounds like something akin to a cue sponsor giving a pro a "free" cue if they will go out in public and shoot a few shots with it and tell people how awesome it hits.
I think only SVB would really even be worth your time on this offer, and he has been fairly critical of aiming systems and such in various interviews. As said above, I am not sure he would take this offer even for free because taking a guy like him and making him actually conscious of the aiming process and pivot points and the like could seriously mess up his game.
In many ways it is like the shark move when a person goes "That is interesting how you grip the cue tighter on the backswing and then loosen your grip as you stroke through the cueball." Suddenly the guy shooting cannot make a ball because he is so focused on his grip because of the seed you planted in his head. He misses the next two shots because he is thinking about his grip, and then he misses the next six because he thinking about "not" thinking about his grip when taking shots.
I am not sure what positives you actually think you can offer SVB. I actually think there is more of a chance of you messing up his game by peeling back the curtain and showing the machinery that creates the magic. What can you really offer the 3 time defending US Open champ who just got 2nd place in the World 9-ball Championships and won the World Pool Masters this year? What does he have to gain? And lets be real, these pros saying these things are clearly going to be used as a marketing tool for your system to go after the peons of the pool world and get them to buy your books and DVD's. That is the obvious end game in this.
Thread is in wrong forum.
If you are inviting a certain number, then do so. Facebook is a good resource, going to Chesapeake even better.
Posting this in the main forum will just stir people up.
Few pros participate on AZ, some who do are in the pro section.
Good luck to you in this endeavor.
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If you are inviting a certain number, then do so. Facebook is a good resource, going to Chesapeake even better.
Posting this in the main forum will just stir people up.
Few pros participate on AZ, some who do are in the pro section.
Good luck to you in this endeavor.
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Oh yeah, well I think Stan is trying to create a win win scenario for both the pros and himself with this little set-up. The pros win after a market is created for teaching cte... they are recognized professionals who "use" and teach cte and teaching is a great side income. And Stan wins when professionals claim to use his system.
I see the problem being that this is actually a win win lose situation as trusting individuals are waisting both their time and money with this nonsense. What do you think about that?
Does Corey deuel still use CTE? You know, quietly?
One night after a Shane and Dennis match Stan was in the ask the instructor forum saying that both Shane and Dennis were using CTE wether they were using it purposely or not. He said he recognized the pivots.:grin:
Any publicity is good for sales. Or that's what he thinks. Johnnyt
This is an excellent post and brings up a valid point.
I'm curious to hear not just Stan's take but other instructors as well.
Is it really beneficial to tinker with something when it's working so well? As an instructor, what is the thin red line where you have a student/pro who is exceptional, but unorthodox (maybe in fundamental techniques or aiming system). At what point do you leave the instructor hat, and put on the coaching hat, realizing that filling their head with anything else technique-wise might be counter active to their development?
I think it would be a heck of a lot tougher for you to spew your sickening attitude straight to my face.
My offer is exactly as stated. I do not need the likes of you to twist and spin my offer around.
Teaching endorsements are no way a part of what I offered
Stan Shuffett
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