Darren Appleton world 10 ball champ!!!!!
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SpiderWebComm said:
where had you been? the top echelon players from the P.I. went to boycott the event even before it started. it would be premature to say that London is New Manila, especially if the best aren't there to participate. but still a strong showing coming from the 3rd tiers. able to reach the quarters and semis against the best players from Europe, U.S. and other parts of Asia says and proves their mettle.
anyway, congrats to Darren. and I hope that he gets paid as what the event promised.
the pros and cons of the WTBC are:
PROS : No softbreaks allowed and new set of rules
CONS : not successful as compared to the previous 2 WC due to politics and players' strike.
I guess the one who brought the WPC success to Manila is the same person who killed the event and it's popularity?
Hail Mary Shot said:where had you been? the top echelon players from the P.I. went to boycott the event even before it started. it would be premature to say that London is New Manila, especially if the best aren't there to participate. but still a strong showing coming from the 3rd tiers. able to reach the quarters and semis against the best players from Europe, U.S. and other parts of Asia says and proves their mettle.
anyway, congrats to Darren. and I hope that he gets paid as what the event promised.
the pros and cons of the WTBC are:
PROS : No softbreaks allowed and new set of rules
CONS : not successful as compared to the previous 2 WC due to politics and players' strike.
I guess the one who brought the WPC success to Manila is the same person who killed the event and it's popularity?
I was just joking for the most part. If the top Filipino pros boycotted the event, that's on them. The only thing that comes out of it is a Filipino isn't the champ. I personally don't think it takes away from Darren's win.
Say whatever you want to but Darren had to beat world champions to get this title. He had to beat one of the strongest players in the world to win. Just about EVERYONE had him as the underdog in this match.
The top Filipinos were able to play. They decided not to and it was a courageous decision.
That does not detract from the quality of this win by Darren. At the end of the day, it was him against a player who is as strong as any other player on Earth, who is also a double world champion.
Last year the World Nine Ball championships was contested and all the top Filipinos were there. Only one made it through to the finals, an unknown named Gomez. The winner however was a brit named Peach. So don't detract from this win by Darren Appleton by saying that it's hollow because some of the top names weren't there.
That's like saying no victory is worth anything if certain names aren't in attendance.
There were plenty of PROVEN champions at this event who did NOT make it all the way. Champions that have soundly beaten all the famous Filipino players who did not attend the event.
We all agree that the event was different and certainly less spectacular without the top Filipinos in attendance. But it was still top flight world class pool. And it was made even tougher for the players who did participate because of the politics surrounding the event.
The fact is that an underdog who is relatively unknown despite his vast experience came through and won a tough event. He beat champions to do it and now can respectably count himself among the list of World Champions.
Good on you Daz!!!!!!
(and thanks for making me some money)
The top Filipinos were able to play. They decided not to and it was a courageous decision.
That does not detract from the quality of this win by Darren. At the end of the day, it was him against a player who is as strong as any other player on Earth, who is also a double world champion.
Last year the World Nine Ball championships was contested and all the top Filipinos were there. Only one made it through to the finals, an unknown named Gomez. The winner however was a brit named Peach. So don't detract from this win by Darren Appleton by saying that it's hollow because some of the top names weren't there.
That's like saying no victory is worth anything if certain names aren't in attendance.
There were plenty of PROVEN champions at this event who did NOT make it all the way. Champions that have soundly beaten all the famous Filipino players who did not attend the event.
We all agree that the event was different and certainly less spectacular without the top Filipinos in attendance. But it was still top flight world class pool. And it was made even tougher for the players who did participate because of the politics surrounding the event.
The fact is that an underdog who is relatively unknown despite his vast experience came through and won a tough event. He beat champions to do it and now can respectably count himself among the list of World Champions.
Good on you Daz!!!!!!
(and thanks for making me some money)
Hail Mary Shot said:where had you been? the top echelon players from the P.I. went to boycott the event even before it started. it would be premature to say that London is New Manila, especially if the best aren't there to participate. but still a strong showing coming from the 3rd tiers. able to reach the quarters and semis against the best players from Europe, U.S. and other parts of Asia says and proves their mettle.
anyway, congrats to Darren. and I hope that he gets paid as what the event promised.
the pros and cons of the WTBC are:
PROS : No softbreaks allowed and new set of rules
CONS : not successful as compared to the previous 2 WC due to politics and players' strike.
I guess the one who brought the WPC success to Manila is the same person who killed the event and it's popularity?
Pool to my knowledge has not produced a blockbuster event in any first tournament ever. You have to crawl before you walk. I hope the Filipinos get their act together. If they do the tournament will get better every year.
However, even if they do get the politics solved, we still have the whole 10 ball vs 9 ball thing and the threat to just trash the past tradition. I dont know what will happen in this area and i dont have any solutions either. Thankfully, there are people smarter than me out there. Fix this crap!!!
first of all, I'm not taking this thing away from Darren. I never said that he didn't deserve to win. as far as I can remember, which is not too long ago, I did congratulate him, right?
what I'm saying is that it is never the same as was before without the attendance of some players. of what could had been. surely there are a lot of big names present in the tournament, but the question of who could had made it, is also a valid point. if I may say this, I'm a bit sad to what had happened. I don't think nor believe that it's about being a neophyte tournament that caused it to be unsuccessful. it is rather more of having your home superstar team, not playing in it's own home turf. of course, who would be interested in watching or even supporting a replacement team in an event? Bulls with MJ is just not the same with Bulls with rookies.
win or lose, Filipino or not, I'll be happy as long as the home team gets to play. I know that the home team would be so happy ripping off some of the world's best of their tournament earnings outside the tournament hall, but sad for the fans who are expecting to watch them and being in action in the tournament.
what I'm saying is that it is never the same as was before without the attendance of some players. of what could had been. surely there are a lot of big names present in the tournament, but the question of who could had made it, is also a valid point. if I may say this, I'm a bit sad to what had happened. I don't think nor believe that it's about being a neophyte tournament that caused it to be unsuccessful. it is rather more of having your home superstar team, not playing in it's own home turf. of course, who would be interested in watching or even supporting a replacement team in an event? Bulls with MJ is just not the same with Bulls with rookies.
win or lose, Filipino or not, I'll be happy as long as the home team gets to play. I know that the home team would be so happy ripping off some of the world's best of their tournament earnings outside the tournament hall, but sad for the fans who are expecting to watch them and being in action in the tournament.
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A much well deserved win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Congrats Darren!
Congrats Darren!
Hail Mary Shot said:
Marlon Manalo is 3rd tier?
The fact that Alex, Busta, and others whinged on the event and shot themselves in the foot for whatever reason is their own fault and bad move. Not that many $100,000 paydays in this sport. There was still a world class field in this event, Yang, Wu, Fiejen, SVB, Peach, Souquet, Hohmann, Chang, Kuo, Van De Berg, Deuel, Immonen, Archer, Ortmann, Jeong, ect....
The Phillipines could have sent whoever they want and they are not assured of winning this event.
Maybe next year your top teir players will lose whatever chip on their shoulder they have and actually take the shot at winning a 6 figure payday. Otherwise, there is still a world class field at this event with or without them.
To my knowledge there were more active former world champions in this tournament than out of it. To in any way try to put an asterisk by this victory is absurd and has the under tones of a political statement.
Bottom line is Darren CHOSE to play against one of the toughest fields possible on this earth and he outlasted them all with style and grace.
Just because the "home team" CHOSE not to compete for whatever reasons has no bearing on Darren's performance at all. The fact certain players chose not to play means they chose to not be a factor. They deserve to be respected for having the courage of their convictions just as Darren deserves to have the respect one earns for being a true World Champion.
"It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat."
THEODORE ROOSEVELT
Outstanding job Daz. Enjoy your victory you earned it.
Bottom line is Darren CHOSE to play against one of the toughest fields possible on this earth and he outlasted them all with style and grace.
Just because the "home team" CHOSE not to compete for whatever reasons has no bearing on Darren's performance at all. The fact certain players chose not to play means they chose to not be a factor. They deserve to be respected for having the courage of their convictions just as Darren deserves to have the respect one earns for being a true World Champion.
"It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat."
THEODORE ROOSEVELT
Outstanding job Daz. Enjoy your victory you earned it.
Congrats Darren!
Celtic said:
I'm talking about his other companions. tell me, aside from Marlon, who were the other toptiers (if you can name even 3 and if there were) that made the last 32? lemme tell you that most of those guys were 3rd tiers. only De Luna and Banares have the potential enough to be 2nd tiers, the rest were well you know.
JCIN said:
As I said before, this is with regards to the view of the home crowd not being able to watch their favorite team. the argument here is the support that this WTBC got from the home team, not to mention the home crowd. nobody questioned Darren's win, but rather the credibility of the tournament in the eyes of the home crowd. again, no attacks against Darren, rather to the tournament and politics.
Celtic said:
We can only hope that such publicized payday turns out to be true. We don't want any repeat of a KT extravaganza event here, dont we?
don't worry, they'll sure join any tournament that is isn't managed by a body that has too much arrogance and pride. winning the prize of 100K is the least of concern or prority for those players. it's a matter of fair and unbiased dealings. if this weren't true, you would had seen them already in action and at the mercy of the almighty 100k tournament.
Unbelievable performance Darren.....Well done.
Another bright point to Darren winning 100K is that he is not in the least shy about putting it in action. The TAR guys might have their hands full at the Open trying to keep up with Daz and a BIG pocket full of jingle.
Another bright point to Darren winning 100K is that he is not in the least shy about putting it in action. The TAR guys might have their hands full at the Open trying to keep up with Daz and a BIG pocket full of jingle.
Well I think it was not very diplomatic of Spider to call out the Filipinos when he knows about the controversey going on. And it was in equally bad taste for the Filipinos to carry over the issues into this congratulatory thread.
NICE JOB DAZZLE!!!!
And Congratulations to WU CHIA CHING as well. You never gave up and made it a fight to the end.
NICE JOB DAZZLE!!!!
And Congratulations to WU CHIA CHING as well. You never gave up and made it a fight to the end.