Dropping out of TAR and Best of the West.

Money

jay helfert said:
The limit is $2,500. They keep a record of it for 24 hours only. But if you withdraw or deposit a total of $10,000 or more in a 24 hour period, the info is sent to the IRS. I've had to cash in over $10,000 in chips more than once at casinos. I will cash out maybe $7,500 one day and come back a couple of days later to cash out another $7,500. If you win big money in a poker tournament, it doesn't matter if you ask for all cash. They already got your I.D. and Social Security number before you got paid. It will be reported to the IRS and you better declare it on your taxes.

If anyone from the IRS sees this post, I can (and have) show them losses against winnings. No big deal.
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Yeah, Jay is pretty much right. If it's 10,000 I think you are fine. If it's 10,001 then it has to go on a currency transaction report. If you are making large deposits and withdraws ($2000 here...$4000 there) frequently, they can fill out a suspicious activity report on you. Each bank has it's own policy on how much a withraw or deposit can be, before a supervisor is required to sign off on it, especially on new accounts.
 
I think Mike and the Behnke brothers learned a valuable lesson. One they will never forget. Leaving valuables in a hotel/motel room is a big no no. It isn't hard for anyone at the front desk to make a copy of your key, and it only takes one unscrupulous individual to take advantage of you. Even members of the cleaning crew can easily gain access to your room (at any time of the day or night).

I firmly believe this was an inside job all right, and I suspect that this motel has had problems before. It would have been wise to contact the police to go on record about it. They may have a whole history of thefts at this place. Like I said it only takes one person to pull off thefts like this one. As we can see, it can be very lucrative.

By the way, an experienced thief only needs a minute or two in your room. They know just where to look for the dough. They will go to your luggage first, and check all compartments. Then they will search jackets hanging in the closet, especially inside pockets. Be forewarned and forearmed.

I hope Mike and the Behnke's can patch up their differences. They are all good young men. I will say one other thing. I do believe the events of the day had an effect on Mike's ability to play his best game. He was way out of sync. Don't be too quick to write this kid off. He will come back stronger than ever. That's my prediction.
 
jay helfert said:
I think Mike and the Behnke brothers learned a valuable lesson. One they will never forget. Leaving valuables in a hotel/motel room is a big no no. It isn't hard for anyone at the front desk to make a copy of your key, and it only takes one unscrupulous individual to take advantage of you. Even members of the cleaning crew can easily gain access to your room (at any time of the day or night).

I firmly believe this was an inside job all right, and I suspect that this motel has had problems before. It would have been wise to contact the police to go on record about it. They may have a whole history of thefts at this place. Like I said it only takes one person to pull off thefts like this one. As we can see, it can be very lucrative.

By the way, an experienced thief only needs a minute or two in your room. They know just where to look for the dough. They will go to your luggage first, and check all compartments. Then they will search jackets hanging in the closet, especially inside pockets. Be forewarned and forearmed.
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Check this out: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=12199&highlight=stolen+computer

We were staying at a Marriott Courtyard. We were at the pool room for a Joss Tour event all day long. We returned to our room late in the evening, and I noticed that my laptop was gone.

The motel has a way to see who enters the room with the key entry system. Our room was entered twice by the housekeeping staff and once by a repair guy.

I was livid with the hotel staff that night and the next morning about my stolen laptop. The police were called that night. I kept in touch with them when I got home.

You know me and how much I love to take pictures at pool tournaments. Well, it just so happens that I provided the police with pictures of my hotel room, MANY pictures.

Here is what infuiriated me. They have some rule calls "innkeepers protection," or something like that. The hotel is NOT reponsible for anything left in your room. You are supposed to leave all valuables at the front desk if you want the hotel to be responsible for it.

I had a friend in high places at Marriott in Bethesda, MD, the headquarters. She put me in touch with somebody else, and Marriott refunded me for the cost of my laptop, but not after a whole lot of hell-raising. At first, this Marriott said they were not responsible and were not going to pay me for my loss.

MORAL OF THE STORY: Do not leave anything valuable in a hotel room. The hotel is not responsible for it. I learned this the hard way. :frown:

According to the "The Empire State" Consumer Law Manual: An owner of a hotel or motel, or an innkeeper is liable for up to $500 for the loss of personal property while in the hotel or motel. If the loss was caused by the fault or negligence of the innkeeper, there is no liability limit.

If articles of clothing or other personal property are delivered to the innkeeper to be stored, then he or she is liable for any loss up to $100. If, at the time of the storage, the innkeeper gives the owner a written receipt stating that the value of the article is in excess of $100, then the innkeeper will be liable for the excess. However, s/he will not be liable for more than $500, unless the loss occurred through the innkeeper's fault or negligence.


JAM
 
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JAM said:
Check this out: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=12199&highlight=stolen+computer

We were staying at a Marriott Courtyard. We were at the pool room for a Joss Tour event all day long. We returned to our room late in the evening, and I noticed that my laptop was gone.

The motel has a way to see who enters the room with the key entry system. Our room was entered twice by the housekeeping staff and once by a repair guy.

I was livid with the hotel staff that night and the next morning about my stolen laptop. The police were called that night. I kept in touch with them when I got home.

You know me and how much I love to take pictures at pool tournaments. Well, it just so happens that I provided the police with pictures of my hotel room, MANY pictures.

Here is what infuiriated me. They have some rule calls "innkeepers protection," or something like that. The hotel is NOT reponsible for anything left in your room. You are supposed to leave all valuables at the front desk if you want the hotel to be responsible for it.

I had a friend in high places at Marriott in Bethesda, MD, the headquarters. She put me in touch with somebody else, and Marriott refunded me for the cost of my laptop, but not after a whole lot of hell-raising. At first, this Marriott said they were not responsible and were not going to pay me for my loss.

MORAL OF THE STORY: Do not leave anything valuable in a hotel room. The hotel is not responsible for it. I learned this the hard way. :frown:

According to the "The Empire State" Consumer Law Manual: An owner of a hotel or motel, or an innkeeper is liable for up to $500 for the loss of personal property while in the hotel or motel. If the loss was caused by the fault or negligence of the innkeeper, there is no liability limit.

If articles of clothing or other personal property are delivered to the innkeeper to be stored, then he or she is liable for any loss up to $100. If, at the time of the storage, the innkeeper gives the owner a written receipt stating that the value of the article is in excess of $100, then the innkeeper will be liable for the excess. However, s/he will not be liable for more than $500, unless the loss occurred through the innkeeper's fault or negligence.


JAM
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I don't like the "repair" guy in this scenario. Why was he going into your room?
 
jay helfert said:
I don't like the "repair" guy in this scenario. Why was he going into your room?
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Great minds think alike, Jay. I believe it was the "repair" guy too, for sure! :angry:

We arrived in Albany, NY on Friday night, the day before the weekend Joss Tour tournament, so that we could be rested up and not racing against the clock driving there.

On Saturday morning, I'm taking a shower getting ready to go to the pool room, relaxing under the nice hot steam. Ah, the luxury of it all. And then Keith disrupts my solitude, walking right into the bathroom. He says he needs to use the toilet and can't wait. OMG! :eek:

I reach out of the shower and grab a towel on the rack, which is located behind the toilet. The whole towel rack falls right off the wall, hitting Keith in the head. Ouch! :o

So, when we were leaving that morning for the pool room, we told the front desk about the broken towel rack. That's where the repair guy comes into the picture. :wink:

BTW, the police told me that the repair guy didn't show up for work the next day. I have my suspicions it was him, but I will never know.

To this day, I never leave anything of value in my hotel room when I am traveling. NEVER. Take it from me, don't be duped into thinking your valuables are safe in a hotel room. They aren't.

JAM
 
Hotels are a great place to stay but you always have to be careful. A pool player on the road should never let anyone know where they are staying - ask Jimmy Wetch about the terrible incident that happened to him. I remember talking to Barbara, the wife of Jack Cooney, after it happened & how upset she was about it. Jack had mentored Jimmy & still all his rules of the road were not followed on that day.

Unfortunately, hotel employees are not the highest paid members of society & opportunity to make a fast buck is sometimes too enticing. A former employee of mine, her father was in Oklahoma City on business & hanging out in the hotel bar. The waitress in the bar tipped off two of her friends that he had a pocketful of money. They caught him in the hallway on the way back to his room, beat the living hell out of him and took his money. He was in a coma for a day, had permanent loss of vision & brain damage. Two months stay in the hospital & he was still not 100% ok upstairs.
 
JCIN said:
Quite simply it comes down to this. A teenager made a mistake in judgment by by leaving some money in a room because he didn't want have the whole roll on him in case something happened. He thought he was being prudent. I dare any one you to tell me that you made every decision correctly when you were a kid.

The bottom line is that the owner of the money never lost a dime. The money was made good to him.
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Here are some rules of the road so fools don't get robbed or lose someone elses dough....

1. If staying at a motel, always get a first floor room and park as close to the room as possible. If you can't park close and a close spot opens later, move it.

2. Always double lock the door and NEVER open it without looking out the peep hole and window first. Beware of people sitting in cars nearby. If something seems shady, call the desk and report it.

3. When leaving the room when you are returning later, always leave the TV on. Pretty loud too..... Not so loud that people will call to complain, but loud enough that if a thief is casing the room he can hear it. They'll think twice if they think someone is in the room.

4. Never leave money in the room unless its in a safe. I myself have never left money in the room, or safe, its bad for business. If you are careful leaving the room and where you go it shouldn't be a problem...

5. Always drive around the area where you're staying and the poolroom when you get into town. Look for where cops hang out or where the police station, fire station, etc.. is. Places to eat that are well lit and very public. If someone is following you, you need to know where you are if you call the police.

6. At the poolroom, always park close to the door. If you can't have your partner hold the money and move it when a spot opens up. If you know the room owner or manager is on the square have them escort you to your car.

7. NEVER tell anyone where you are staying! NEVER!!! If you're staying at the LaQuinta on 5th Street, tell them you're staying at the Best Western on 12th... That is a big thing to note when driving around the area (#5 above), find a hotel to use as your fake hotel.

8. When you leave the poolroom always drive around a little to make sure your not being followed, don't drive directly to the room.

Saw
 
When I am on the road I will either put the money in the safe, hide it or leave it in the car. I will often leave some decoy money out for the thief to steal.

I don't show my bankroll to anyone. I pretend like I am on my last money and can barely afford the room.

Or if they ask me what I do I will say I am on an undercover operation. :-)

Never ever ever leave your money where other people know where it is unless you trust that person with your life.

John - can't count the times I have been in a house/hotel room full of people with a 10-20G+ amount of money. Luckily I trusted them all fully and they never ever let me down.
 
wow there are so many misinformed people here, good job buddy:thumbup: you know who you are, a telephone call away from something...
 
The Saw said:
Here are some rules of the road so fools don't get robbed or lose someone elses dough....

1. If staying at a motel, always get a first floor room and park as close to the room as possible. If you can't park close and a close spot opens later, move it.

2. Always double lock the door and NEVER open it without looking out the peep hole and window first. Beware of people sitting in cars nearby. If something seems shady, call the desk and report it.

3. When leaving the room when you are returning later, always leave the TV on. Pretty loud too..... Not so loud that people will call to complain, but loud enough that if a thief is casing the room he can hear it. They'll think twice if they think someone is in the room.

4. Never leave money in the room unless its in a safe. I myself have never left money in the room, or safe, its bad for business. If you are careful leaving the room and where you go it shouldn't be a problem...

5. Always drive around the area where you're staying and the poolroom when you get into town. Look for where cops hang out or where the police station, fire station, etc.. is. Places to eat that are well lit and very public. If someone is following you, you need to know where you are if you call the police.

6. At the poolroom, always park close to the door. If you can't have your partner hold the money and move it when a spot opens up. If you know the room owner or manager is on the square have them escort you to your car.

7. NEVER tell anyone where you are staying! NEVER!!! If you're staying at the LaQuinta on 5th Street, tell them you're staying at the Best Western on 12th... That is a big thing to note when driving around the area (#5 above), find a hotel to use as your fake hotel.

8. When you leave the poolroom always drive around a little to make sure your not being followed, don't drive directly to the room.

Saw
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Dont forget to put the DO NOT DISTURB sign on the door! :wink:
 
People will forget the most simplest things. Like putting that chain hook on the door before you retire at night. A friend got all her luggage stolen while she and her mother were asleep in their hotel bed.
I toured throughout this country and stayed in some pretty cheap motels. Sometimes I would just take a handfull of ones and a fiver with some change and leave it on the bureau or on top my suitcase. Hoping that if I got broken into the villains would be happy they found something.
Once in Singapore I got paid off in American Dollars for a job. It was a 5 figure sum. The only alternative was to get it in Yen or a check on a Singapore bank. But after watching all the canings that they used to air on the nightly news and the 2 hangings for drug dealers I saw in the paper. I felt relatively safe.
 
Fatboy said:
wow there are so many misinformed people here, good job buddy:thumbup: you know who you are, a telephone call away from something...
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Can we please get the whole story and quit all this beating around the bush stuff...We all just want to know the truth no matter how bad it is.
The truth shall set you all free.

This post makes everyone think you know who did it and they were a pool player involved around this match. So why not tell who did it so everyone involved doesn't look poorly?
 
JamieMcWhorter said:
Can we please get the whole story and quit all this beating around the bush stuff...We all just want to know the truth no matter how bad it is.
The truth shall set you all free.

This post makes everyone think you know who did it and they were a pool player involved around this match. So why not tell who did it so everyone involved doesn't look poorly?
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It was McNit in the Library with the Candlestick Holder. :wink:
Did I win anything?
 
This thread should never have existed as this topic should be discussed only behind closed doors and only among the principles.

The very existance of this thread is evidence of the immaturity and lack of sound judgement evident in a very young person.

What happened or didn't happen is NOBODY'S business outside of the principles and peoples reputations are being threatened.

What the hill is the matter with people that they have to talk about things like this? Leave it alone.
 
Mainplayer said:
Its seems that some people had there opinion of me and why I dropped out of these two thing. The truth of why I pulled out of the Best of the West was because I was NEVER in the Best of the west. I was told while I was in LA just to show up and I might be able to play If the alternates didn't show up. That was ok with me I had no problem that and made other plans before he decided to put my name on the flyer.
The TAR match with Bartrum. Wow only if you knew. I noticed things weren't going well before for the match and they fell apart big time an hour before. 3500 got stolen from our room while we I was at the poolhall. The people I was with check into the room, put the bags into the room and came back an got me. Woke up the next day and the money was gone. They tested the door and only two times that the door had been opened was by my partner (at the time) and his bother with the only two keys. This started to get FISHY when all my shit was searched and hour before I had to play. Then I was told they were backing out of the set. My mind was out if it. But that is what happened. Making me look bad was the only thing that happened those two days. I will play chris soon with people AROUND me that I can trust. Next time don't jump to conclusions.
Mike Dechaine
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I don't know why I'm even getting involved in this, but "they tested the door and it was only opened two times" stands out to me. Who is "they" and how do you know "they" didn't take your money?
 
alstl said:
I don't know why I'm even getting involved in this, but "they tested the door and it was only opened two times" stands out to me. Who is "they" and how do you know "they" didn't take your money?
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I don't have a horse in the race either but I read it as "they" being MAINPLAYERS partner and his partners brother. I thought MAINPLAYER insinuated that there was a way (?) to ascertain the door was only opened twice (?). When I first read the account of what happened I had no idea who OP was talking about. The implication (my interpretation) was the OP was pointing the finger at his former(?) partner and brother.

At this time I have the impression that the status quo is acceptable.

Works for me!!!!:)
 
ribdoner said:
I don't have a horse in the race either but I read it as "they" being MAINPLAYERS partner and his partners brother. I thought MAINPLAYER insinuated that there was a way (?) to ascertain the door was only opened twice (?). When I first read the account of what happened I had no idea who OP was talking about. The implication (my interpretation) was the OP was pointing the finger at his former(?) partner and brother.

At this time I have the impression that the status quo is acceptable.

Works for me!!!!:)
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I took it that "they" was the staff at the hotel. Who else would be able to test the door to see how many times it was opened?
 
alstl said:
I took it that "they" was the staff at the hotel. Who else would be able to test the door to see how many times it was opened?
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looks like you and i "know" bout what we need to:)
 
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