Earl should be barred

spktur

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I was playing in the one pocket division at the Derby City on the table next to Earl who was playing Hiroshi Takenaka and it was disgusting the way he acted. Right off the bat he was insulting to his opponent and was disruptive to my match with my opponent and when a fan asked to keep it down he was insulting to the fan. In my opinion it was nothing more than a sharking tactic. Hiroshi was a perfect gentleman who should have kicked his ass both on the table and in the parking lot.
 
spktur said:
Hiroshi was a perfect gentleman who should have kicked his ass in the parking lot.

It is NOT going to happen.Angels are guarding him.He has his followers who will jump in to protect him.:cool:
 
This is a neverending story untill something bad happens. Soon or later he will cross the line to the point of no return. He should get a shink or some other professional mental help or someone will just wack him one day.
 
that reminds me of this one kid, always saying bad things to the people who he knows and are scared of him, until one day he says things to someone that just won't take it.
 
My take on Earl

Earl's brain is just left of sideways.

In Reno one time, he pummeled this kid whom you could tell was playing his idol. The score is 8-0 in a race to 9. Earl misses a 9, it swirls the pocket then rolls over to a tough position on the side rail. To make the ball, the kid is going to have to fire it in a thousand miles an hour to pinch it (no cross-over bank without the double kiss) or duck. Well, who's gonna duck when there's a chance to win? - Earl doesn't leave many 9 balls laying around. So the kid barrels it in the hole, it goes in, then pops back up on the table. For a fraction of an instant, the kid was a winner (of one game, but hey, that would give him SOME bragging rights. :cool: ). But the outcome was that it sat in front of the hole like a duck. Earl calmly pockets the match-winning 9, goes over and without smiling, shakes the guy's hand with a limp wrist, turns his back on him and starts practicing that shot he missed and others. The kid is still standing there, looking like he wants to say something else.

Now in my mind, that was a great time to be a good ambassador for the sport. He could have smiled and said, "You almost had me, kid" or something to that effect, maybe showed him a couple things. The kid was clearly star-struck, but I'm not sure how long that lasted after that behavior.

Earl comes to Seattle and puts on a trick shot exhibition. Things don't all roll right and he keeps at it, like 12-20 takes, until it is just embarrassing...for the crowd! He doesn't even realize it! At one point, he said very honestly (to himself anyway), "I could have done that one better if I tried harder."

Then he takes challengers, and I broke and ran on him and won a Camel cue which he signed. He was very nice and told me I should be on the pro tour. Maybe he was being nice because he was being paid to? :confused:

Fast forward to the IPT KOH tournament. I'm not sure he remembers me from long ago, I haven't played in anything he has played in since (maybe Reno). He sees me in line to get our player photgraphs taken. He goes, "Are you a player on this (tour)?" I said, "Yes". He looked at me then off into space for a dragged out 5 seconds before replying, "Well good luck, you're going to need it!"

He wasn't trying to be mean or derogatory, that's just Earl. He has no filter on his mouth. It goes straight from his brain to his lips. We just all had to laugh. It was true, but I truly don't think he knows how hurtful his actions and words can be. The world is there to please Earl and we are all just players in his game.

To show his true mental capacity, I asked him if he remembered me, and I jogged his memory by telling him he was up in Seattle for a Camel trick shot show and then he remembered. Then he lit up and said, "Yeah, that was a great show, everything went, didn't they?" Well, yeah, if you mean after 20 tries! Now I have that filter and didn't try to correct him with the truth. But in his mind, in a galaxy far, far away, all he remembered were the winners. And that's probably why he is a champion and I am the ambassador. :p
 
Earl will never be barred from anything. Heck, he's on the short list for induction into the BCA Hall of Fame this year. I can sympathize though. Nobody likes unsportsmanlike conduct. Maybe this should have been brought to the attention of the officials at the tourney?
 
rackmsuckr said:
Earl's brain is just left of sideways.

In Reno one time, he pummeled this kid whom you could tell was playing his idol. The score is 8-0 in a race to 9. Earl misses a 9, it swirls the pocket then rolls over to a tough position on the side rail. To make the ball, the kid is going to have to fire it in a thousand miles an hour to pinch it (no cross-over bank without the double kiss) or duck. Well, who's gonna duck when there's a chance to win? - Earl doesn't leave many 9 balls laying around. So the kid barrels it in the hole, it goes in, then pops back up on the table. For a fraction of an instant, the kid was a winner (of one game, but hey, that would give him SOME bragging rights. :cool: ). But the outcome was that it sat in front of the hole like a duck. Earl calmly pockets the match-winning 9, goes over and without smiling, shakes the guy's hand with a limp wrist, turns his back on him and starts practicing that shot he missed and others. The kid is still standing there, looking like he wants to say something else.

Now in my mind, that was a great time to be a good ambassador for the sport. He could have smiled and said, "You almost had me, kid" or something to that effect, maybe showed him a couple things. The kid was clearly star-struck, but I'm not sure how long that lasted after that behavior.

Earl comes to Seattle and puts on a trick shot exhibition. Things don't all roll right and he keeps at it, like 12-20 takes, until it is just embarrassing...for the crowd! He doesn't even realize it! At one point, he said very honestly (to himself anyway), "I could have done that one better if I tried harder."

Then he takes challengers, and I broke and ran on him and won a Camel cue which he signed. He was very nice and told me I should be on the pro tour. Maybe he was being nice because he was being paid to? :confused:

Fast forward to the IPT KOH tournament. I'm not sure he remembers me from long ago, I haven't played in anything he has played in since (maybe Reno). He sees me in line to get our player photgraphs taken. He goes, "Are you a player on this (tour)?" I said, "Yes". He looked at me then off into space for a dragged out 5 seconds before replying, "Well good luck, you're going to need it!"

He wasn't trying to be mean or derogatory, that's just Earl. He has no filter on his mouth. It goes straight from his brain to his lips. We just all had to laugh. It was true, but I truly don't think he knows how hurtful his actions and words can be. The world is there to please Earl and we are all just players in his game.

To show his true mental capacity, I asked him if he remembered me, and I jogged his memory by telling him he was up in Seattle for a Camel trick shot show and then he remembered. Then he lit up and said, "Yeah, that was a great show, everything went, didn't they?" Well, yeah, if you mean after 20 tries! Now I have that filter and didn't try to correct him with the truth. But in his mind, in a galaxy far, far away, all he remembered were the winners. And that's probably why he is a champion and I am the ambassador. :p
And there are so many more stories like this .....is Earl married ? if he is i feel sorry for his wife...........
 
Well... I wasnt at Derby City, but I think it is only fair to say that I have seen Earl interact with kids before and he has been super with them. Not all of us are all good or all bad. We all have our moments, and Earl has had more moments than most of us (lol) but everytime I have seen Earl, he has always been a perfect gentleman.

Below is a picture of Earl after losing a close game to Kieth Josey's son Daniel this past summer at Eydie's event in Orlando.

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Here is apicture of Earl with little Marissa Yi of Columbus, Georgia. They are obviously discussing the danger of gay avatars. I don't think Earl approves of them.

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BAZARUS said:
This is a neverending story untill something bad happens. Soon or later he will cross the line to the point of no return. He should get a shink or some other professional mental help or someone will just wack him one day.
FYI just found out its the blood sugar/inside info.
 
Speaking of Marissa...what the heck happened to Sweet Marissa? I didn't see her in the member list anymore.


As far as Earl is concerned, I have to admit, I can't stop watching him play. However, his blow ups and sometimes rudeness is a bit frustraing for fans.
 
Fleece3 said:
If you have ever doubted that Earl was the biggest thing in pool, all you have to do is look at this forum. NO ONE inspires more conversation than Earl Strickland!! Simply mention his name in a subject line and you are guaranteed multiple pages of responses. Love him or hate him, the man is a lighting rod and a major draw. People simply can not stop talking about him.

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,that I have had with him after he had lost.

i can't correlate earl's "importance" in pool with the attention he gets at a billiard forum.

in the world of pool, in the state that pool finds itself(ie as a small money sport that draws zero TV dollars and concommitant audience attendance),,,earl's presense means nothing. he doesn't bring in dollars when the sport itself brings in nothing. and i would wager that the phillipinos draw better than him.

in a tourney, archer, morris, et al are just as attractive. earl has more LOYAL fans, but not MORE fans, imo.''

in any case, he hasn't done anything to get banned. acting like a brat won't get it done.
 
This is a test.

When I looked at this thread on the MAIN forum, the last poster was Bruin70. However, when I pulled the thread up, the last post on the thread was authored by Bobby.

Now I am posting to see if this post shows up as the LAST post on the thread as a test.

To stay on topic of the thread, Earl Strickland is an American legend. People have STRONG feelings about him one way or the other. At 43 years of age, he's still hitting 'em strong, God bless him. He is the same age as Francisco Bustamante, who is also still hitting 'em strong.

Some people say that when a player ages, it diminishes their capabilities on a field of green. Efren Reyes and Jose Parica, both in their fifties, are the exception to the rule, and let's not forget Spanish Mike Lebron winning the U.S. Open when he was 54 years old.

With Earl's recent STRONG finish at the U.S. Open in the top four and his Most Valued Player award at the Mosconi Cup, he's still a formidable opponent in any venue he steps foot in. I look forward to seeing him on the tournament trail and will continue to root for Earl the Pearl. That's my story and I'm sticking with it! :p

JAM
 
cuejoey said:
And there are so many more stories like this .....is Earl married ? if he is i feel sorry for his wife...........

No, I believe he is with Dianna Hoppe (who isn't?)..... they deserve each other.... as long as they don't contaminate the world, all will be ok.
 
I've loved to watch Earl play for 15 years now but as the stories of him acting like an a**hole pile up, it seems inevitable that someone is just not going to care that he's a legend and beat the living crap (or worse) out of him.

Personally I think people should just tell him to STFU and play. Who cares if he's a legend if he's giving you crap? What bothers me most is he has been pulling this stuff forever and it often works to get his opponents of their game. Someone from the IPT should tell him, shut up or play another tour if you can't play without whining and pulling shark moves ("he has ALL the shark moves" one young pool pro told me)

Someone brought up Mosconi so here's my Mosconi story: I was just a kid and my grandparents had just told me about the game of pool (they played in bars,etc...). Mosconi had an exhibition nearby so we went to watch him play and the only things I can remember are he was wearing a suit and he looked like he was having the worst time of his life. This was in the doldrums of the 70's but I can't forget how I was confused that someone would be in such a bad mood playing pool. I got his autograph but I still remember how joyless the affair seemed to him. Great players don't always help the sport as much as they think.
 
straybullet said:
Well... I wasnt at Derby City, but I think it is only fair to say that I have seen Earl interact with kids before and he has been super with them. Not all of us are all good or all bad. We all have our moments, and Earl has had more moments than most of us (lol) but everytime I have seen Earl, he has always been a perfect gentleman.

Below is a picture of Earl after losing a close game to Kieth Josey's son Daniel this past summer at Eydie's event in Orlando.

DSC_0018.jpg



Here is apicture of Earl with little Marissa Yi of Columbus, Georgia. They are obviously discussing the danger of gay avatars. I don't think Earl approves of them.

DSC_00641.jpg


Earl is a study in contradictions. Off the table, he can be kind, considerate and gracious and I could cite many examples of the above. On the table he is driven and possessed. It is as if his brain disconnects and all civility is lost. It is a personal affront to him that a lesser player is even on the same table with him. When he is playing, he expects nothing less than everyone present to pay homage to his greatness.
In some ways he reminds me of Mosconi, totally self possessed and of the attitude that all mere mortals are lesser beings. Like Earl, he demanded your complete attention when he was playing. Anything less and he was infuriated.
I suspect this type of obsessive behavior is present in other sport's champions, like Ty Cobb in baseball and John McEnroe in tennis. Thankfully they are the exceptions rather than the rule.
Many celebrities seem to follow the same pattern, demanding (and receiving) preferential treatment.
 
Fleece3 said:
If you have ever doubted that Earl was the biggest thing in pool, all you have to do is look at this forum. NO ONE inspires more conversation than Earl Strickland!! Simply mention his name in a subject line and you are guaranteed multiple pages of responses. Love him or hate him, the man is a lighting rod and a major draw. People simply can not stop talking about him.

I had a conversation recently with one of the organizers of a major event in NYC event (held at Slate and espn zone). And the number one question that they received was "is Earl coming?". Not just in person, but also on the phone!!! People were actually basing their decision on attending based upon Earl's attendence. It is for that reason that Earl will never be barred from any event or organization. This man may be a genuis. If things keep going this way. promotors may start paying Earl an appearance fee to play in their event. It doesn't even matters if he wins or loses.

Why does Cuetec keep supporting him?? Well, lets look at the US Open. He blows up playing Ralf, all of the pool world is talking about it. Do a search up here if you want to verify. Then the very next day, with everyone watching to see "whats going to happen" he calmly DISMANTLES Efren "The Magician" Reyes. And in front of a world stage to boot. Have you looked at your new accu-stats catalog? The match with Ralf is not available. However, the one with Efren IS :rolleyes:.

Again, love him or hate him, no one brings pool passions to the forefront like Earl.

So you want Earl to go away? Stop talking about him!! But we can't do that now can we :o

That being said, I am a huge fan of Earl's. He has always been really cool with me whenever our paths have crossed. And yes, this includes conversations that I have had with him after he had lost.
Earl has been getting appearance fees for well over 25 years.... and it's money well spent. If Earl won't be at the table I for one won't be in the stands. Most pro pool players are creeps but Earl is the only one everybody is worried about (WHY) because he's F*##^&@ incredible.
 
Marissa is sitting with Earl man im jealous, i wished i had that chance to kick it with top world players like that. Although i have seen him on t.v. blow up i will and always love the way he plays, he makes it look so easy when he is on.
 
I've never been to DCC, but isn't it supposed to be a anything goes sharkfest? If so what difference does it make to anyone but Earls opponent what Earl says or does at the table.

Terry<just curious:confused:

Damn my post just got sent to the middle of the pack.......MIKE
 
I have to disagree on this ambassador stuff just a bit. It's great to be nice, but nice isn't always interesting. The old saying, "nice guys finish last," has some real truth to it.

Earl is the greatest natural, everything is easy baby, pool player I have ever seen, and I have seen most all of the greatest players that are around today. When he looses, it is usually because he sharks himself with his own mind games.

But to stick with the topic, his behavior is out of line very often. He sometimes reminds me of a kid crying cause he didn't get his way. But, this sort of thing is what will make pool matches interesting people. Love him, hate him, you have to agree that you won't forget him. I hope the IPTA can get him into one of their television programs, as he would be great for ratings.

Earl, if you read this, we love ya Baby! You gotta be a man to beat the man! Right? (Unless you are Karen Corr of course...Then you have a situation somewhat like fire meeting ice.)
 
What's really funny is, and it's caught on film, that she's smiling at the camera and he's staring at her in that john holmes sort of way.
 
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