Ernesto Dominguez; Some or his work.

[realkingcobra]

The way you presented yourself during this thread makes it sound like you are a representative/do all the work for Diamond...

No, customers that buy Diamond tables from Diamond are the ones that pay me to deliver and set up the tables...as they'd pay anyone else to deliver a table they bought. So, I work for the many customers on the west coast that buy Diamond tables, I mean...someone has to deliver the tables...don't they? I believe even Ernesto has delivered Diamond tables before, so does that mean he works for Diamond...or the customer that bought the table?

Glen

 

[realkingcobra]

Fatboy, when I delivered and set up your Diamond...did you pay for the delivery...or did Diamond...I can't remember now who I worked for...LOL

Glen
Oh, and when I recover your Diamond sometime next week I hope if I have the time, are you paying me, or should I ask Diamond to pay me for recovering your pool table?

 

[realkingcobra]

Jay, are you paying me to deliver your Diamond, or is Diamond...I'm not sure, as some people on here seem to have me confused with someone that works for Diamond.

 

[realkingcobra]

You represent Diamond. Your attitude reflects the treatment that Diamond customers can expect.

This is not good for Diamond. I am proof of that.

You don't want my services to deliver a Diamond that you wanted to buy, then don't ask, it's OK with me, I don't really care if you buy a Diamond or a Brunswick, or what ever. But how little you must think of Diamond, to take away a sale, to try and punish the Diamond company, if you really intended to buy a Diamond in the first place...for such a dumb reason!

Glen

 

[midnightpulp]

And we still don't have Glen's response to the fact that if Ernesto's tables play great using the "wrong" cushions, then what difference does it make? I could understand if something on the table became compromised, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

 

[Franky]

Greg runs a good business.

I don't doubt all the positive praise of his craft. I.e. I am sure he is quite good at what he does.

However, that's not the issue here. The issues is his lack of professionalism toward both customers and his fellow professional table mechanics. I won't support it. I won't ignore it.

I have tried on numerous occasions to tactfully chill the man out as have others on here. I respect the caliber of his work...but there's more to life than what you do with your hands! People don't have a problem with his work or his work-ethic. They, and I, have a problem with his attitude.

Here's a post where I took the time to try and explain to him why he's getting grief from people on here:

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=1010238#post1010238

He totally ignored the post. He continues to ignore the spirit of the post.

Personally, I've had enough of his attitude and felt that he should both know it and know what I choose to do about it.

 

[realkingcobra]

And we still don't have Glen's response to the fact that if Ernesto's tables play great using the "wrong" cushions, then what difference does it make? I could understand if something on the table became compromised, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

I'm done with this tread, you guys are all experts I can see that now

Glen

 

[LILJOHN30]

FOR THOSE WHO LIVE IN THE EAST COAST, PARTICULARLY IN THE SOUTH, MARK GREGORY IS THE ABSOLUTE BEST TABLE MECHANIC. HIS NUMBER IS 770-548-4292. HE HAS DONE NUMEROUS JOBS FOR MY POOL ROOMS FOR MANY YEARS NOW. I HIGHLY RECOMEND HIS SERVICE.

JOHN DuONG

what ever???

 

[midnightpulp]

I'm done with this tread, you guys are all experts I can see that now

Glen

Explain. You have no explanation other than it's the wrong cushions and they grow the playing surface by a 1/4 inch.

What about playability? If it was so absolutely wrong, why do so many great players, who would definitely know what they want in a table, love Ernesto's work?

You have nothing but an arbitrary reason.

You might know about assembly, but as a far as playability, which is the end result, I trust Ernesto's opinion a lot more, since he also happens to be a world class player.

 

[cuetechasaurus]

Glen I would like to apologize for the name calling. What you have been saying about Ernesto caused my temper to flare. The reason why, is because Ernesto is truly a gem of a human being. I don't exaggerate when I say this, he is one of the most kindest, honest, and hard working human beings I have ever met.

You say you have never met the guy. You should meet him, you would be amazed at how great of a guy he is. He does tables the way he does them, because his customers like it that way. It doesn't hurt the game, it doesn't hurt the player, and it doesn't hurt the table. It's just a different style than yours. If people were complaining about it, then perhaps what you are saying would have merit. But the fact is, you are the only one complaining. I have seen Ernesto work, and let me tell you, man is a perfectionist.

That's the reason why he has so much support here, and everywhere. Every customer of his turns into a friend. People respect him THAT much. You should at least meet the guy and talk to him, before you badmouth him on a public forum.

 

[midnightpulp]

Glen I would like to apologize for the name calling. What you have been saying about Ernesto caused my temper to flare. The reason why, is because Ernesto is truly a gem of a human being. I don't exaggerate when I say this, he is one of the most kindest, honest, and hard working human beings I have ever met.

You say you have never met the guy. You should meet him, you would be amazed at how great of a guy he is. He does tables the way he does them, because his customers like it that way. It doesn't hurt the game, it doesn't hurt the player, and it doesn't hurt the table. It's just a different style than yours. If people were complaining about it, then perhaps what you are saying would have merit. But the fact is, you are the only one complaining. I have seen Ernesto work, and let me tell you, man is a perfectionist.

That's the reason why he has so much support here, and everywhere. Every customer of his turns into a friend. People respect him THAT much. You should at least meet the guy and talk to him, before you badmouth him on a public forum.

Do I give you bad rep?

Anyhow, great post. Too bad he took the bail out of "I'm done with this thread" as if we're all blowing hot air and not making any sense, when he has not explained how the use of the "wrong" cushions affect playability, and if so many top players trust his work, how can the use of these cushions be absolutely incorrect?

He seems to lack imagination and conforms to whatever the specifications tell him to do, because it seems for the life of him, he can't understand that Ernesto's style, which goes against those specifications, works.

 

[yobagua]

I'm done with this tread, you guys are all experts I can see that now

Glen

No we're not experts we're pool enthusiasts. I know some of us think they are smarter or have more money or have suffered more than others. And therefore think what they have to say has deeper meaning. But when it comes down to it it is the basic core of human goodness and respect that counts. I wish you could have showed more of that before you ran off.

 

[n10spool]

Here at Hardtimes in Sacramento they all play well as expected for poolhall tables but the bank short, all tables roll different, pockets are pretty consistant in size; take into consideration these table have alot of hours onthem with ball bangers and kids sitting on them.

I think the gripe or b$tch that seems to steam into the argument is that....Brunswick tables were designed for k55 rubber in order to change to k66 profile rubber you have to either add wood then recut the angle to only accept k66 rubber only and maintain the correct ply size of the table. or lower the rail hieght to except k66 rubber only bygluing the rubber lower on the exsiusting angle which enlarge the playing field deminsion by upto 1\4" in both directions..also you will have a step down from the rail top @ the feather strip tto the top of the rubber by upto 1\4" or less. Now you have to plane down, modify, or screw up a table that used to have a smooth profile from the factory. Only way to put it back to original state is to saw off half the rail then glue and screw a new section of wood on then recut all the right angles on it to accept k55 again.

Original shape and contour is a smooth flow from edge to edge profile a nice arc. The way Earnesto does it its not smooth and flowing its more like a ~ shape. It works just doesnt look original. To the common person they may never notice it but a good table mechanik will see it.

It's okay to turn junker into a player but why hack $10,000 table into a table that will take upto $1,500 to turn it back to original condition with those smooth line and normal or tight pockets.

Both technitions I have great respect for but everybody including myself have funny flaws on how they go about modifing or fixing a table.... there is no industry standard yet established. Look at the standards set by the BCA.. Why would you want 4" pocket's it not legal according to the BCA but yet Brunswick now offers procut pockets , Olhousen uses there own angles on thier pockets look like funnels unlike other manufactures.

Connoly uses k55 on thin rails and set thier rubber hieght @ 1-5\16" which is way to low so if I uses Earnesto way of putting on k66 it would be onther 1\8" lower at all most 1 inch of nose hieght. This I think is probably the best example of a royal screwup with out pointing fingers @ how the industry should establish a set of standards this way we can have true proffesionals....................................................................................................................................................................lol what do I know I'm just a rookie @ life.


Craig

 

[jay helfert]

I don't doubt all the positive praise of his craft. I.e. I am sure he is quite good at what he does.

However, that's not the issue here. The issues is his lack of professionalism toward both customers and his fellow professional table mechanics. I won't support it. I won't ignore it.

I have tried on numerous occasions to tactfully chill the man out as have others on here. I respect the caliber of his work...but there's more to life than what you do with your hands! People don't have a problem with his work or his work-ethic. They, and I, have a problem with his attitude.

Here's a post where I took the time to try and explain to him why he's getting grief from people on here:

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=1010238#post1010238

He totally ignored the post. He continues to ignore the spirit of the post.

Personally, I've had enough of his attitude and felt that he should both know it and know what I choose to do about it.

Franky,

Are you confusing Greg Sullivan the owner of the Diamond company with Glen (aka Realkingcobra). the table mechanic. They are definitely two different guys.

I have known Greg for many years and he is a pool enthusiast like many of us here. We are fortunate that he decided to take it upon himself to make a better pool table. It took him many years to perfect his table, but he persevered and the Diamond may well be the best table made today.

Greg is a class guy and I'm glad to count him as a friend. I just wish he didn't play One Pocket so good.

 

[midnightpulp]

Here at Hardtimes in Sacramento they all play well as expected for poolhall tables but the bank short, all tables roll different, pockets are pretty consistant in size; take into consideration these table have alot of hours onthem with ball bangers and kids sitting on them.

I think the gripe or b$tch that seems to steam into the argument is that....Brunswick tables were designed for k55 rubber in order to change to k66 profile rubber you have to either add wood then recut the angle to only accept k66 rubber only and maintain the correct ply size of the table. or lower the rail hieght to except k66 rubber only bygluing the rubber lower on the exsiusting angle which enlarge the playing field deminsion by upto 1\4" in both directions..also you will have a step down from the rail top @ the feather strip tto the top of the rubber by upto 1\4" or less. Now you have to plane down, modify, or screw up a table that used to have a smooth profile from the factory. Only way to put it back to original state is to saw off half the rail then glue and screw a new section of wood on then recut all the right angles on it to accept k55 again.

Original shape and contour is a smooth flow from edge to edge profile a nice arc. The way Earnesto does it its not smooth and flowing its more like a ~ shape. It works just doesnt look original. To the common person they may never notice it but a good table mechanik will see it.

It's okay to turn junker into a player but why hack $10,000 table into a table that will take upto $1,500 to turn it back to original condition with those smooth line and normal or tight pockets.

Both technitions I have great respect for but everybody including myself have funny flaws on how they go about modifing or fixing a table.... there is no industry standard yet established. Look at the standards set by the BCA.. Why would you want 4" pocket's it not legal according to the BCA but yet Brunswick now offers procut pockets , Olhousen uses there own angles on thier pockets look like funnels unlike other manufactures.

Connoly uses k55 on thin rails and set thier rubber hieght @ 1-5\16" which is way to low so if I uses Earnesto way of putting on k66 it would be onther 1\8" lower at all most 1 inch of nose hieght. This I think is probably the best example of a royal screwup with out pointing fingers @ how the industry should establish a set of standards this way we can have true proffesionals....................................................................................................................................................................lol what do I know I'm just a rookie @ life.


Craig

Thanks for that. At least you explained something useful.

So it's really more of a form thing than a function thing? I would think it would be easier on Ernesto just to go with the "correct" rails, but he doesn't. This leads me to believe it's worth his extra time and effort to make the rails fit because he sincerely believes they offer better playability, and the players love it, so what's the problem?

Something Glen can't grasp.

 

[Dartman]

Explain. You have no explanation other than it's the wrong cushions and they grow the playing surface by a 1/4 inch.

Just to chip in a for instance -
Let's say you have an Ernesto modified Gold Crown
A year from now you sell it to me.
A year later I decide to replace the cushions and order K55 which is what the table calls for.
I line up a mechanic (not Ernesto or Glen) to do the work.
He drives 1hr to do the job and now has the wrong replacement cushions because the subrails were modified.
You can figure out the rest.
Now this is assuming you don't tell me the table has K66 when I buy it from you.
As for the 1/4" - depending on the table this can usually be adjusted during reassembly.

Frankly - if an Ernesto modified table plays great that's a good thing.
As long as the customer is satisfied then that is what matters.
Probably important if one sells a modified table to be sure and let the buyer know what changes were made.

 

[n10spool]

tap tap tap

 

[asbani]

thats some awesome work, where does he live? is he a member of AZB. I'd love him to work for me and create a pool table for me if it is possible to ship it to Kuwait in good condition. Give him pls his info or AZB Member name, and i'll PM Him.

 

[poolhustler]

After reading Glen's posts, he seems to know his stuff, but he just comes off as a pompous ass who is maybe just a tad narcissistic.......

 

[RunoutalloverU]

After reading Glen's posts, he seems to know his stuff, but he just comes off as a pompous ass who is maybe just a tad narcissistic.......

A tad? And I thought I was bad. This guy makes me look pious. Funny nobody at the IPT events at hard times stopped shooting and said.....EVERYBODY STOP....this table has k66 rubber, and brunswick tables are supposed to have k55 rubber, im protesting! No, all the world class elite players ran out, banked and kicked just fine. In the words of Walter and The Dude, "Am I wrong? Am I wrong?", "No Walter you're not wrong, your just an asshole!"