Get a NEW BLACK BOAR...around $6,000

icon2 said:
no offense, but that's an awful analogy!
no high zoot steve wynn retail space involved . . . or gemstones . . .
but thank you for letting me know how high end buyers think.
. . . and that the OP can come up with 36k.
just wish i could scrape together 6k, so i could get me one! :thumbup2:
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LOL.

You are cute. I look forward to your next whacky and irreverent yet pithy post.

Be sure to use the Groucho smiley. That one really sells it.
 
stikapos said:
I don't see how someone who doesn't know crap about these cues can wind up calling someone else a "dufus". Sorry, but you use words like those and they always seem to turn back on thyself.

My comments. First, if you've never met Tony or been to his shop, you're just lobbing bombs from left field. Just like that coach said from NO said, "you just don't know....and you never will....". Judgement can vary on this topic, but at least speak from a position of strength, rather than a lack of knowledge. That's what we get from Congress and I'm certain we all deserve better than that!

Second, right or wrong, this idiotic world is ruled by the idea that if you can get a price, you get it. That's the free market ruling, which in the short run, can be influenced by the impact of the fundamentals of which may be questionable. At the end of it, these cues probably make his year, allow him to drink better vokda and buy some new machinery. Is there that much difference between these and a searing ? Knowing his investment in machinery, can you really blame him for asking for this price if someone is going to pay it ???

Finally, in the day of the low deflection cue, you simply don't buy these or any other custom cue for performance. You buy them because you like the workmanship or the design or perhaps the balance or some other factor. Probably most important is that you'll always be able to sell such a cue for near the money you invested. But as for playabliity, I'll stick a $200 cue in the hands of any good road player and have him/her beating most of the posters here with a cue of their choice, regardless of price.

So, if you don't know Tony and you don't have $6000 to buy one of his cues, but practice diligently and have a $200 cue with an LD shaft, why in the world would you care what price he got for a plain jane ???? If I wanted to spend the cash, I would probably buy it because I could tell my wife that BECAUSE it was a plain jane, I didn't spend that much! See, my dear, its only a plain jane!! And like the esteemed poster said earlier, it would only be a drop in the bucket anyway.
tim
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You've obviously never played with Tony's new shafts.
They OWN predators.
FWIW, Kevin and Sueyen are both playing with them and I'm pretty sure
these player's cues will come with them.
They're the only high performance cues available, IMO.
I've played with the rest and Tony is the best.
 
Guys,

I don't really understand how tikkler's notice of Tony making some cues available for public consumption turned into such a mess...but that seems to be happening alot around here (and elsewhere) lately. It's unfortunate...but wadda ya gonna do?

Having owned my fair share of BB cues...and knowing Tony personally...I can tell you that his cues have, and will continue, to bring EXACTLY the dollars that people are willing to pay for them. Whether or not they sell is up to the buyer...not Tony.

There are plenty of people that would jump at the chance to own one of these player's cues. If I had the means, I would own one myself.

If you don't like or agree with the pricepoint of the cues, just move on to something else. Don't go dragging Tony through the mud in an attempt to prove your point, though. There's no call for it.

Just my opinion.

Mark <---can't afford a new BB, but longs for the day when he can
 
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I just got off the College Park Metro, which way is Tony's shop? Never mind, i'll just follow the mob. LOL
 
Penrose Cues said:
I'm curious what the cue will look like when Tony will have inlayed it and finished it with a nice coat of paint and a nice leather wrap...

I've seen so many flawless and extremely beautiful cues from Tony's that I expect this larva to turn into a breathtaking butterfly with a little time...

Please do post pics of finished cue for comparaison...

Thanks,

Tom Penrose
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Good post. I looks to me like the people complaining about this cue can't see that it has yet to be inlaid. It may still be a very fancy cue, and easily worth 6K +, just not over the top. It is only a plain jane in these pics.
 
Inlays

tikkler said:
I was at Tonys shop yesterday and he had around 5-6 playing cues almost finished. If you have ever wanted a BB to play with ..heres your shot. I played with one for about 4 hours yesterday and it was incredible.

Call him quick, they arent going to be around long...heres a pic of me and Tony with one of them
Steve

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Steve, there is no mention of inlays being done in these cues. What's the scoop? Bob C.
 
Tony's Cues

Steve, Did you ever think the thread would evolve to this point? My .02, opinions are valuable that is why we have an open forum. Black Boar cues are fantastic players, lookers and investments. Those that believe in Tony's mantra and billiard engineering follow current works and aspire to own his new creations. I think to truly appreciate one of these cues, the buyer should take a tour of the Black Boar Custom shop and go from there. Then the buyer would decide whether the hit is priceless. I know I have a cue that I would never part with.
Peace,
Lu
 
It's interesting the cue they are holding is already pinned and handle-joined but no inlays yet.
BB's are the Fuente of cues.
 
icon2 said:
no offense, but that's an awful analogy!
no high zoot steve wynn retail space involved . . . or gemstones . . .
but thank you for letting me know how high end buyers think.
. . . and that the OP can come up with 36k.
just wish i could scrape together 6k, so i could get me one! :thumbup2:
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ROTFLMAO.....

MAKE SURE YOU ASK YOUR WIFE FIRST TO.:D

I DON'T CARE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER ABOUT THESE CUES, BUT I LOVE GUYS THAT MAKE POSTS DIRECTED AT PEOPLE THAT THEY DON'T NOW.

DON'T WORRY J, MAYBE ONE DAY YOU'LL HAVE 6K TO SPEND ON A CUE.

Marcus <--- DOUBTS THE CUES WILL GET INLAYS, BUT I'M CURIOUS
 
Ballistic Billiards said:
You've obviously never played with Tony's new shafts.
They OWN predators.
FWIW, Kevin and Sueyen are both playing with them and I'm pretty sure
these player's cues will come with them.
They're the only high performance cues available, IMO.
I've played with the rest and Tony is the best.
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Ummm...I saw Sueyen play a week or so ago and she was playing with a Predator shaft as she always has.
 
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Ballistic Billiards said:
You've obviously never played with Tony's new shafts.
They OWN predators.
FWIW, Kevin and Sueyen are both playing with them and I'm pretty sure
these player's cues will come with them.
They're the only high performance cues available, IMO.
I've played with the rest and Tony is the best.
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Agreed that his new shaft sport LD (no ferrules) and the combination of his taper and quality of wood make for one heck of a shaft. I haven't shot with this new design of shaft. However, BB shaft over predator was not the point I made. I said that any good road player, given an LD shaft on a $200 cue, could beat just about any poster here.

Point being, I can put a 427 in a pinto and run down a ferrari on a track for a lot less than the italian standard. Doesn't mean that if I had the money, I wouldn't be driving the testarossa.

tim
 
I stand corrected

Matt_24 said:
Ummm...I saw Sueyen play a week or so ago and she was playing with a Predator shaft as she always has.
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Maybe I shouldn't be so surprised, sometimes change takes time and feels
counterproductive.
Maybe Kevin's still playing with his ivory ferrule shaft too.
:sorry:

stikapos said:
Agreed that his new shaft sport LD (no ferrules) and the combination of his taper and quality of wood make for one heck of a shaft. I haven't shot with this new design of shaft. However, BB shaft over predator was not the point I made. I said that any good road player, given an LD shaft on a $200 cue, could beat just about any poster here.

Point being, I can put a 427 in a pinto and run down a ferrari on a track for a lot less than the italian standard. Doesn't mean that if I had the money, I wouldn't be driving the testarossa.

tim
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I'm sorry, I thought that you said...

...you simply don't buy these or any other custom cue for performance.
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I'm obviously not going to argue that an accomplished player can't play with
any old cue. I'm just saying..
If you want performance, this IS where you'll find it.
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help

This post is meant for the few guys that actually have a clue to what they are talking about....LOL

I bought one of these cues.........it will have just a BB logo and the ivory crown in the butt. It also played better than any cue I have ever touched....bar none. But that is coming from a lousy player, so I would assume that someone good could really enjoy how these cues play.

I believe that this cue is a good investment being BB cues are mostly all in a much higher range. For more information just give Tony a call

Steve
 
tikkler said:
This post is meant for the few guys that actually have a clue to what they are talking about....LOL

I bought one of these cues.........it will have just a BB logo and the ivory crown in the butt. It also played better than any cue I have ever touched....bar none. But that is coming from a lousy player, so I would assume that someone good could really enjoy how these cues play.

I believe that this cue is a good investment being BB cues are mostly all in a much higher range. For more information just give Tony a call

Steve
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I find these cues interesting, and have an analogy. Most of Tony's cues are really high end nowadays, and I would bet that the large percentage never hit a ball by their owners. Tony is a cue engineer to the core and has many opnions and thesis on what makes a good shaft and cue.

I think its a bold move to come out with a PJ players cue. They have to stand on their own and man up, because you know people are going to hit some balls with these things. I.E. he's not going to let these things out in circulation unless they played exceptional. For that reason, these might be the best playing cues he's ever built
 
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