Good Bye Pool, Hello Gym...

I went to a weight trainer for a while and one day my dad had me stand next to a small bar with two 5 pound weights on it. He asked me what the difference was between me and the weights , I said i don't know . He said you are both dumbells, but you pay someone $25.00 an hour and that one doesn't.
Good luck, Eric
 
Falcon Eddie said:
Those kind of guys you are talking about are great for work out partners. But they are there for themselves first. You get what you pay for. When it comes to someone that has injury rehabilitation problems, you don't want to trust it to anyone.
just bragging , but I'll take that spot !! lol
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Gym opinions are just that. I was mentored by a world beater from Westside Barbell. Two years later, I had the highest total weight (Squat,dead,bench) in the united states out of all federations(220s,non drug tested included),and that's not e-stats or bragging.That's no coincidence.

I do agree with you on the fact that you have to have someone train you that wants you to succeed. Not because it will make them look good but they see how much passion you have inside of you for something that is basically worthless in monetary value. It will make them train harder as well. It's not a dick measuring contest it's a brotherhood. Most personal trainers I've met don't understand the brotherhood mentality,because they are so tied up and isolated in what some book says or what some test they passed told them.You can't buy experience.

No matter what level of physical health someone is on. The fact that they elect to change their current status into something better gets them respect from me. There is a happyness in the gym that is unlike anything else in the world.
 
Powerlifter said:
Gym opinions are just that. I was mentored by a world beater from Westside Barbell. Two years later, I had the highest total weight (Squat,dead,bench) in the united states out of all federations(220s,non drug tested included),and that's not e-stats or bragging.That's no coincidence.

I do agree with you on the fact that you have to have someone train you that wants you to succeed. Not because it will make them look good but they see how much passion you have inside of you for something that is basically worthless in monetary value. It will make them train harder as well. It's not a dick measuring contest it's a brotherhood. Most personal trainers I've met don't understand the brotherhood mentality,because they are so tied up and isolated in what some book says or what some test they passed told them.You can't buy experience.

No matter what level of physical health someone is on. The fact that they elect to change their current status into something better gets them respect from me. There is a happyness in the gym that is unlike anything else in the world.
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This man knows what he is talking about!,well said Mr.
 
There are many type of training. Sport specific, bodybuilding, rehabilitation, health and wellness. The key is to understand the clients needs and be able to address them. Not everyone wants to lift weights. Some of the most powerful athletes in the world never touch them. Gymnastics is a great example. Working the rings , doing an iron cross among the other events. Not one of those people lift weights. I have trained aerobic instructor/ trainers and had them panting and gasping for air after 3 mins. Identify your needs, set your goals. And if you need seek professional help.
 
Powerlifter said:
...Gym opinions are just that. I

.... Most personal trainers I've met don't understand the brotherhood mentality,....
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Coz they are there to work yo' ass over, not to have a good time with clients!
and of course there has to be a plan with measurable points...

Not that I wish to argue with you' kind sir!:yikes::grin:
 
Lifting heavy , most anyone who has ever weight trained has wanted to get that respectable max. At 167 lbs. I was benching 300 lbs and squatting 500 lbs free weight in the cage. I know guys that continued to lift like that and their shoulders are shot with knees to match. All the ego lifting for me is history..I want to finish this race of life with the least amount of pain.
 
Powerlifter said:
Gym opinions are just that. I was mentored by a world beater from Westside Barbell. Two years later, I had the highest total weight (Squat,dead,bench) in the united states out of all federations(220s,non drug tested included),and that's not e-stats or bragging.That's no coincidence.

I do agree with you on the fact that you have to have someone train you that wants you to succeed. Not because it will make them look good but they see how much passion you have inside of you for something that is basically worthless in monetary value. It will make them train harder as well. It's not a dick measuring contest it's a brotherhood. Most personal trainers I've met don't understand the brotherhood mentality,because they are so tied up and isolated in what some book says or what some test they passed told them.You can't buy experience.

No matter what level of physical health someone is on. The fact that they elect to change their current status into something better gets them respect from me. There is a happyness in the gym that is unlike anything else in the world.
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Westside Barbell is the Mecca of power lifters, I trained in Golds Venice for years another great spot. What was the guys name he had a 3 lift total of 2700 pounds in the 90's??? I met him a few times he weighed 350ish, he was a Samoa guy from tx?? I might be the weakest 240 poiund guy ever lol
 
I agree Falcon Eddie...I started training at age 40....At 43 I won the Santa Clara Bodybuilding Championships and took 3rd at the Calif. State Fair championships... I went all out for max weights....Today I have both shoulders as problems....Knee's not so bad...But real bad shoulders...
Guess my body was too old to start that heavy of a program...
Fat Boy...Were you living in Modesto between 1983 and 1996? I use to put on the Modesto Bodybuilding Championships...First at SOS club, then Modesto High School, then Downey High and then the Modesto Junior College.....
One thing I can say thou is I hurt my back when I was 21....Suffered for years and many Chiropractor visits...I started working out at 40 and my back improved and even today I only go about 3 times a year for my back...So I think the working out strengthened the muscles in my back especially on each side of my spine and helped my back problems a lot...At least that's what I think must of happened...
 
Falcon Eddie said:
Lifting heavy , most anyone who has ever weight trained has wanted to get that respectable max. At 167 lbs. I was benching 300 lbs and squatting 500 lbs free weight in the cage. I know guys that continued to lift like that and their shoulders are shot with knees to match. All the ego lifting for me is history..I want to finish this race of life with the least amount of pain.
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At 17 after working on my Dad's ice truck and lifting weights for 4 years at 122 lbs I lifted 208 C&J, 155 snatch, and 162 Mil. Press in comp. Today at 70 I can hardly move my joints. I can barely walk on a good day. Johnnyt
 
Fatboy2 said:
Westside Barbell is the Mecca of power lifters, I trained in Golds Venice for years another great spot. What was the guys name he had a 3 lift total of 2700 pounds in the 90's??? I met him a few times he weighed 350ish, he was a Samoa guy from tx?? I might be the weakest 240 poiund guy ever lol
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I lifted 2700 pesos once, but I had to put it right back down. :D
The heaviest thing I ever lift is a 19 ounce cue!
 
Eddie...Your post is a good one, and could be taken in the same context of getting pool instruction. I agree with everything you said...and, imo, it applies just as much to getting pool lessons. :thumbup:

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Falcon Eddie said:
I think this is great advice. Not just because I'm a trainer , but if you do something wrong you could kill any gains. I one piece of advice I would suggest if you do get a trainer. Is ask the question " Why? ".
Why do I put my hands this way..why ? why ? whatever is asked of you make sure you understand the reasons why you are doing it a certain way. It will also let you know if your trainer knows his business. Personal training is one of the most unregulated industries out there. Anyone can call themselves a trainer and with an online certification ...wham bam instant trainer.
Good luck with your endeavors.
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Falcon Eddie said:
There are many type of training. Sport specific, bodybuilding, rehabilitation, health and wellness. The key is to understand the clients needs and be able to address them. Not everyone wants to lift weights. Some of the most powerful athletes in the world never touch them. Gymnastics is a great example. Working the rings , doing an iron cross among the other events. Not one of those people lift weights. I have trained aerobic instructor/ trainers and had them panting and gasping for air after 3 mins. Identify your needs, set your goals. And if you need seek professional help.
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I agree. My point was based more around what a quality personal trainer is. That's nothing personal to you though. I have seen a lot of trainers who were getting paid to be nothing more then cheerleaders. We both know there is a lot more to it then that.


Falcon Eddie said:
Lifting heavy , most anyone who has ever weight trained has wanted to get that respectable max. At 167 lbs. I was benching 300 lbs and squatting 500 lbs free weight in the cage. I know guys that continued to lift like that and their shoulders are shot with knees to match. All the ego lifting for me is history..I want to finish this race of life with the least amount of pain.
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Not everyone who trains for strength is an "ego lifter". Some of the best in the world are the nicest guys in the gym,and would dedicate way more time then they should to people who are just seeking some advice.Even though strength training isn't for everyone,to some people it is. If you get to pursue something you love and have success at it,you will be a happy person. That's regarding all sides of life. You could easily say the same for top bodybuilders. Fatboy knows Jay Cutler. I've met Jay.I'm willing to bet Fatboy would say Jay's a very happy guy. If he was a plumber,he wouldn't be Jay Cutler.

If someone is an arrogant asshole because they are huge or because they can lift a monster truck over sears tower,then they'd be an asshole just the same if they couldn't.

Fatboy2 said:
Westside Barbell is the Mecca of power lifters, I trained in Golds Venice for years another great spot. What was the guys name he had a 3 lift total of 2700 pounds in the 90's??? I met him a few times he weighed 350ish, he was a Samoa guy from tx?? I might be the weakest 240 poiund guy ever lol
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You gotta be talking about Anthony Clark. He was a huge human being. Unique underhand style bench press. He was a record breaker with it.

If you got back in the gym,your life would change. Get something going for yourself and stick to it.I know you have been around some very serious guys. The more time you waste the less time you are alive.
 
If I can do it all over, I would never lift very hard, and at most just enough reps my body allows before straining.
 
Fatboy2 said:
Finally after 6 years of hell(back problems, 5 monster operations, 427,943 pills). I finally feel good enough to go to the gym. I stopped pool in 94ish and started the gym because of back pain, the gym made the pain go away. I liked the gym, I never had the desire to compete or the genitics, I was too fat-best I could do was a 4 pack of abs(kinda funny same for 9 ball-if I could break it would be lots more:mad:). So I'm a 4-Pac Body Builder and 4-Pack pool player. LOL I look the worst I have since 94 because I havent been able to go to the gym in 5.5 years, I went until i collapsed in pain. I never looked great, but I did like how I looked then compared to now and more importantly I felt better. Feeling good was my main motivation to go to the gym.

Since I can go to the gym again with out any problems, i'm going. I cant train like before and have to be very careful about my back-I'm gonna give it a shot. I hope it makes me feel better, and when I have reached a point in the gym I'm happy with I'll come back to pool. I know for 6 years I played pool at home when I was 100% gym and I played good 9 ball, But thats the only game I knew how to play back then. Being in good shape made pool seem easy. So I figure taking some time off pool, getting into shape cant harm mny pool game much. Infact I think I got the best of it, If I do it right. I'd like to do both

I think I can do both, before I really couldnt because I was body building and that makes your muscles numb and stiff, you cant stroke the cue right. This time I'm older, not BBing, just getting in shape. Thus I think my pool game will be ok. But I'm stopping pool 90% until the little voice comes along and tells me to go play pool. I'd hope its 90 days but I'll bet its going to be longer.

I'll be around here some and everything Fatboy will be pretty much normal. what ever the hell that means.


I'm really excited about this, i'm starting slow and careful.

Thanks everyone here(yes even the haters),

eric


Oh yeah my new joke-Whats the difference between a loser and a hater? Answer: The last 2. LOL
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Eric go easy on the gym and don't hurt yourself i admire the spirit but don't let the cues get to dusty after all you can't workout 24/7 and you will be missed my friend.
 
Johnnyt said:
At 17 after working on my Dad's ice truck and lifting weights for 4 years at 122 lbs I lifted 208 C&J, 155 snatch, and 162 Mil. Press in comp. Today at 70 I can hardly move my joints. I can barely walk on a good day. Johnnyt
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When you stop.... Is when it catches up with you. You need to be doing some kind of light resistance training. It will help you.
 
Fatboy2 said:
Finally after 6 years of hell(back problems, 5 monster operations, 427,943 pills). I finally feel good enough to go to the gym. I stopped pool in 94ish and started the gym because of back pain, the gym made the pain go away. I liked the gym, I never had the desire to compete or the genitics, I was too fat-best I could do was a 4 pack of abs(kinda funny same for 9 ball-if I could break it would be lots more:mad:). So I'm a 4-Pac Body Builder and 4-Pack pool player. LOL I look the worst I have since 94 because I havent been able to go to the gym in 5.5 years, I went until i collapsed in pain. I never looked great, but I did like how I looked then compared to now and more importantly I felt better. Feeling good was my main motivation to go to the gym.

Since I can go to the gym again with out any problems, i'm going. I cant train like before and have to be very careful about my back-I'm gonna give it a shot. I hope it makes me feel better, and when I have reached a point in the gym I'm happy with I'll come back to pool. I know for 6 years I played pool at home when I was 100% gym and I played good 9 ball, But thats the only game I knew how to play back then. Being in good shape made pool seem easy. So I figure taking some time off pool, getting into shape cant harm mny pool game much. Infact I think I got the best of it, If I do it right. I'd like to do both

I think I can do both, before I really couldnt because I was body building and that makes your muscles numb and stiff, you cant stroke the cue right. This time I'm older, not BBing, just getting in shape. Thus I think my pool game will be ok. But I'm stopping pool 90% until the little voice comes along and tells me to go play pool. I'd hope its 90 days but I'll bet its going to be longer.

I'll be around here some and everything Fatboy will be pretty much normal. what ever the hell that means.


I'm really excited about this, i'm starting slow and careful.

Thanks everyone here(yes even the haters),

eric


Oh yeah my new joke-Whats the difference between a loser and a hater? Answer: The last 2. LOL
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Good luck Fatboy,Can I have your BB? I'll take good care of her.Thanks,John B.
 
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