Got stiffed by TX's top OB Tour woman.

[putt-putt44]

Reminds Me Of The Old Joke,,,,,,

""ya Know Why God Invented Women " ??

""because Sheep Can't Cook "" !!

 

[GADawg]

This incident is evidence that being a "low life" is not gender specific.

 

[Johnnyt]

What a shame for OB and Texas women's pool. If this story went down like you said, post her name like Jay said, "Your name is worth a lot more than $40. Johnnyt

PS: I have played many pro and semi-pro women and have never been air-barreled or stiffed by any of them. Come to think about it I've only been stiffed by a guy once in 50+ years. That was fir one game on a bar table for $10. He was an ex heavyweight boxer. I broke the butt of the house cue across his forehead. But that's another story.

 

[jimmyg]

Reminds Me Of The Old Joke,,,,,,

""ya Know Why God Invented Women " ??

""because Sheep Can't Cook "" !!

I recall another expression, not that I subscribe to the theory....but it is funny, IMO. No disrespect intended to any women out there.

"If we weren't f**king them, we'd be hunting them."

Jim

 

[Richardson]

Thats pretty pathetic.

 

[Bigtruck]

Thats pretty pathetic.

Please use the quote button so we know who you are calling pathetic.

Forum Peeps,

FTR - I have known Amanda Lampert for some time and I assure you this is NOT her style. Amanda is a stand up gal all the way.

I agree that Dragon should post up the name. It's not like you're ever gonna play her again and then people will know that if they air barrel you, they will be outed.

Come on Sang......name names!

Ray

 

[Johnnyt]

By not naming names now, you are giving a bad name to at least the top five on the OB Tour. That's not right either. Johnnyt

 

[Tokyo-dave]

The problem with playing for money in pool, is that because it considered an illegal practice in the first place, when/if you get stiffed, there's not much you can do about getting your money. That is why things get rough when a bet doesn't get paid. Lot's of people here talk about how they busted somebody up for not paying, which I admitt is the same course of action I would most likely resort to if I had the advantage, but busting somebody up for not paying on a $500 (or whatever) bet risks being arrested and possibly being stuck with come kind of a legal settlement that in the end could cost more than the original $500. Sure, the guy that gets his ass kicked for not paying may never do it again, but the winner still doesn't get his/her money!
It all just really sucks!! Seems like even the winner is taking a risk in some situations!
And I'm all for posting the players name. It's the best way to make sure it doesn't happen again, and you also run the chance of her approaching you with "Ok you #%$# whiner..................here's your #%$(% money." Not only will you do $$ damage to her because it will hurt her action, but you may be able to get your money too.
It still just plain sucks!! Although pool is surrounded by gambling, shady characters, some drugs, a little violence and all that other good stuff..................................................IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A GENTLEMANS SPORT!!!! And has been generally treated that way..............even by the worst of them.
Make sure that the only $ she ever wins is from future OB Tour top finishes, because she'll never catch a good enough gear to go beyond the OB tour unless she plays with the best, and that means ACTION. And you can put an end to that right now.
dave

 

[vagabond]

This is what happened last night. I don't like to gamble with women. QUOTE]



But u did anyway.Let this issue die and or go away. u never know ,a gift much more valuable than 40$ may be waiting for you.Let it go.

 

[THE PICK]

by not exposing her she will keep it up. She thinks she has got away again. You are wrong to start this post and not following thru with it.

 

[Papa Red]

This is what happened last night. I don't like to gamble with women. Doesn't matter what happens, win or lose, I feel bad either way.

I've twice played this top OB Tour woman some cheap games, $5/game. The first time I beat her out of $10 & the second time she beat me also $10. No problem there. After that I told her I don't want to gamble with women. Then she started saying a whole bunch of other nonsense. I am assuming that she thinks that I am scared of her.

So tonight she saw me at a local pool hall & again wanted to play me some. I said "let's play $2/game" She laughed & refused to play. Then I said "OK let's play a race to 5 for $20 & I only have time to play for two sets. And I beat her both sets. I waited a little & see if she was going to pay me. I looked around & didn't see the money anywhere. I told her "you owe me $40". She said "yeah". That was it. Then I told "you're not going to pay me?" She again said "yeah". But still no money. So I got the hint that she was not going to pay. I just walked out.

Man, if she was a guy, something bad could have happened. But she was girl. What am I supposed to do? I think I made the right decision by just walking out. Now I have one less person to bug me.

Now of course this is only my side of the story, but this is exactly what happened last night. Some of you regular AZers were there, but did not see what's happened. I am sure you know who I am talking about. She may be funny, but not as sweet as she appears. She fooled me also.

Sorry about the rant, but I just have to let it out.

By posting this the way you have is bring negativity to all the ladies and the sponsor of the tour. You should have left OB completely out of your post.

 

[Cuebuddy]

Sorry but I had to do it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=angi1vwUkQc

 

[Johnnyt]

I agree with all you said Tokyo-Dave. When I hit the guy over the head with a bar cue for ten bucks it was in the late 1950's, and it wasn't the $10, it was him trying to bully me into not saying or doing anything. The princible of the whole thing. Everybobody was affraid of "Crazy Charlie". Guess what, I was "Crazy Johnny" back then.

If it happened today, would I do the same for $10? Most likely not. There are just too many lawyers now and everybody has one on speed-dial. But if everyone would have handled the situation as I did years ago, you wouldn't have this kind of problem today. Johnnyt

 

[Scott Lee]

JAM...Great story, and very classy move by Keith.:thumbup:

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

If there is one thing that I have ever learned about gambling, ESPECIALLY from reading this forum over the years, it is that you MUST get paid after every match and/or game, depending on how you're playing.

It's bad enough that there are a multitude of pool rules, providing some crawfish and welchers an opportunity to wiggle their way out of a loss, i.e., call pocket versus call shot, ball on the break a win versus being spotted and/or a loss in 8-ball, et cetera.

Here's a copy-and-paste of my previously written air barrel story involving two veterans who should have known better:

I almost hesitate to post this, but it's a true story about an air barrel, my first experience with a player by the name of Keith McCready. It all happened in Maryland at the Capital City Classic tournament.

I had been away from pool for at least 15 years or more. I ran into an old pool friend at Montgomery Mall who invited me to this pool tournament in Maryland. I really didn't want to go, truth be told, but he was insisting I should come and see the old gang. So I agreed to meet him there at a designated time.

As my luck would have it, I arrived at the parking lot of the hotel and received a phone call from him on my cell, stating he had to work late and couldn't make it. I almost didn't go in, but I was there, and so I figured I'd at least check it out.

I was kind of nervous, figuring I wouldn't know anybody, but much to my surprise, as soon as I walked in, I recognized the tournament director, Dennis Wilson, who warmly greeted me with a hug. When I walked into the ballroom, I saw Fat Wayne from Baltimore, Timmy Crown, Tom-Tom, Drug Fair, Parks. Soon I was feeling comfy sitting on the rail, sweating the matches with my pool buddies.

I went outside to smoke a cigarette, and out walks a player I recognized but had never met. It was Keith McCready. I initiated the conversation as we were puffing our smokes. He and I had a good friend in common which was Geese. Up walks this short man, and Keith introduced me to him as his road partner. I said, "I'm glad to meet you, Jose. Do you play pool too?" He chuckled, looked at Keith, and said yes. Later that week, Jose Parica won the tournament, BTW.

Keith and I went inside together. He had a friend with him named Larry Lisciotti who kept me in stitches laughing all night long. Larry, Keith, and myself were a threesome, it would seem. I was actually having a good time, laughing it up at Larry and Keith. What a combo!

The three of us stepped into an elevator and in walks this cocky blond-haired kid named Pistol Pete. He looked right at Keith and said, "You want to play some 9-ball?" Keith looks at him and says, "Well, sure. How do you want to play?" thinking he'd want a spot. The kid says, "I know exactly who you are, and I'll play your ass even for 100 bucks a game."

Well, Keith was, shall I say, on the shortskies for funds. Larry and I had some dough, and so we backed Keith 50/50. Keith wins the first game, and the kid immediately racks them. Larry says to me, "Did he get paid?" I said, "I don't know. I didn't see any money change hands." The second game, Keith wins it easy. The kid wastes no time and racks them again. This time, I said to Larry, "I don't see Keith getting paid." Larry walks over to Keith and asks him where's the cheese. Keith said the kid was going to pay him as soon as he got change. I'm thinking WTF. Change? It's $100 a game. Larry then instructed Keith to demand to be paid after the next game.

Keith again wins, and it was the third game. Pistol Pete walks over to his case on the rail, packs it up, and scurries out of the ballroom like a snake making a quick get-away. Well, Larry and me jump up and run after him, with Keith in the rears.

Outside in the lobby, a heated colloquy ensued. Pistol Pete says he ain't got no money and there ain't nothing any of us can do about it. I thought Larry was going to kill him. I was giving him a verbal lashing. However, Keith was calm as a cucumber. He listened to Pistol Pete intently, while me and Larry were hammering away at him with our anger. Keith then said to him, "Look, Kid, you shouldn't do that to people. It's okay. You can leave, but don't ever do that again to anybody, you hear?"

I was in disbelief, as was Larry. I didn't understand Keith's reaction then, but I do today. It is Keith's interpretation of that kid's air barrel that is the real meat of this story. Anybody else would have tarred and feathered the kid, but Keith only saw a young'n who wanted to play a good player for the thrill of it at all costs, even if it meant an air barrel.

Oh, BTW, we did run into Pistol Pete several months later in Baltimore. We walked into Bill and Billie's, and he was gambling with Danny Green, a local pool great, on the front table. You should have seen his eyes when he saw me and Keith walk in! What happened then, though, is a story for another thread!

Moral of the story is it can happen to the best of 'em, but if you're a smart gambler, you won't let it happen again. :wink:

 

[Scott Lee]

:thumbup: :lol:

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Sorry but I had to do it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=angi1vwUkQc

 

[Maniac]

C'mon with the name already , we ain't got all day!!! Geez, I'm headin' down to San Antonio next weekend and I wouldn't wanna get stiffed by her if'n I should happen to cross paths with her. Do us ALL a favor and give us her name. If your story is true (and I have no reason to believe that it isn't) you are perfectly JUSTIFIED in giving up her name.

Maniac

 

[okinawa77]

C'mon with the name already , we ain't got all day!!! Geez, I'm headin' down to San Antonio next weekend and I wouldn't wanna get stiffed by her if'n I should happen to cross paths with her. Do us ALL a favor and give us her name. If your story is true (and I have no reason to believe that it isn't) you are perfectly JUSTIFIED in giving up her name.

Maniac

She should be easy to spot. She's the one laughing.....because she ain't paying up.

 

[CrisDeLaGarza]

Come on Sang, you need to post her name...was it the same person you were playing against last night?

 

[StormHotRod300]

COME ON!!!!!!!!!! Post her name like the 20$ whore she is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[easy-e]

This is what happened last night. I don't like to gamble with women. Doesn't matter what happens, win or lose, I feel bad either way.

I've twice played this top OB Tour woman some cheap games, $5/game. The first time I beat her out of $10 & the second time she beat me also $10. No problem there. After that I told her I don't want to gamble with women. Then she started saying a whole bunch of other nonsense. I am assuming that she thinks that I am scared of her.

So tonight she saw me at a local pool hall & again wanted to play me some. I said "let's play $2/game" She laughed & refused to play. Then I said "OK let's play a race to 5 for $20 & I only have time to play for two sets. And I beat her both sets. I waited a little & see if she was going to pay me. I looked around & didn't see the money anywhere. I told her "you owe me $40". She said "yeah". That was it. Then I told "you're not going to pay me?" She again said "yeah". But still no money. So I got the hint that she was not going to pay. I just walked out.

Man, if she was a guy, something bad could have happened. But she was girl. What am I supposed to do? I think I made the right decision by just walking out. Now I have one less person to bug me.

Now of course this is only my side of the story, but this is exactly what happened last night. Some of you regular AZers were there, but did not see what's happened. I am sure you know who I am talking about. She may be funny, but not as sweet as she appears. She fooled me also.

Sorry about the rant, but I just have to let it out.

Red rep coming your way IF you don't post her name by tonight. You are hurting other people's rep by not naming her.