has earl ever had the hell beat out of him?

hmm

earl is just pissed at himself and handles it poorly sometimes. a little self defeating. so? why would anyone try to kick someones ass for being rude and annoying? hes ok in my book. just loose temper. so? if he breaks a rule for conduct, penalize him. lotsa guys have broken shit lol.
 
The Saw said:
He's been close twice that I know of.... He runs pretty fast.
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that's why he was bragging about how he runs 5 miles a day in the podcast....because when he's done with a tournament running away is usually a good bet...
 
Lots of players had or just about had their faces punched off. Lots of them had tush hogs on their side as well.

Earl is a player, not a fighter. Why would someone take a perverse pleasure in the knowledge that Earl had the crap beat out of him at one time or another?
Lots of guys can push their limit and talk their way out of a sticky situation too.

Close to being another Pocket Point thread.
 
First of all I think if Earl wanted to he could scrap it up in a bar fight. He might go straight the hell off on someone if you catch him in the wrong frame of mind. So all you keyboard worriers might be in for a beat down.

I agree it is equally sick to want to see Earl go off the air. I really do feel for the man. I'm sure he needs some help but I doubt he would take it until he admits he has a problem and wants help. I pray that he will find peace someday because he has more raw run out talent than anyone I have ever watched play. His high gear is unbeatable...period.

Here's my theory of why he goes off the air in such an unpredictable fashion. When he self medicates with todays highly potent sativas say 35 to 40% it makes him crazy. Simple as that. The stuff from the 1980's was weak and melow say 5 to 10%.

He needs to go find peace somewhere and clear his mind.

God bless Earl Strickland!!!!!
 
Sean, you are the man!

sfleinen said:
I agree with this synopsis. Earl's current storyline reads *A LOT* like the story of another incredibly-talented-but-troubled legend (and arguably the greatest bass guitarist that ever lived), Jaco Pastorius. If you read Jaco's short biography on that link (even the first paragraph will do), you'll see many similarities between him and Earl -- even though, yes, the difference is that Earl's a pool player and Jaco was a bass guitarist. Jaco was diagnosed with bipolar disorder, and unfortunately met a tragic end in a Fort Lauderdale bar when he was literally beaten to death after an altercation.

Of course, one would NEVER wish such things to happen, especially to such unearthly talented people. But such over-the-top talent sometimes intrudes on other aspects of the brain, short-circuiting e.g. good decision-making skills.

-Sean
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I really like the way you explain things!!! How are you doing these days?
Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
"CaliRed". said:
I lived in Ft. Lauderdale for several years, I lived with musician and Jaco's name came up several times when all the guitar buddies would be hanging out.

Weird, he died at a Wilton Manors club. That's where I lived. Little burb off of Oakland Park Blvd. I guess I got there 4 or 5 years after he died.

Weird how its such a big country, but yet you can find stuff that pinpoints you and a incident down within a mile a two.
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Singer-songwriter Elliott Smith committed suicide while living in one of the cottages owned by my family. I had seen him several times on the property and never knew he was a well known artist. He never said boo to me, so I shined him on too. Later I was to find out he was a serious alcoholic, depressed and a heavy drug user.
 
jay helfert said:
Singer-songwriter Elliott Smith committed suicide while living in one of the cottages owned by my family. I had seen him several times on the property and never knew he was a well known artist. He never said boo to me, so I shined him on too. Later I was to find out he was a serious alcoholic, depressed and a heavy drug user.
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Ben Folds has a song about Elliott..

Elliott, man, you played a fine guitar
And some dirty basketball
The songs you wrote
Got me through a lot
Just wanna tell you that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XtfcjYaT6A

Just as many people appear to have a miraculous talent to those around them, just as often they're accompanied by tragedy inside. :(
 
A year or 2 ago Scott Lewis actually started choking Earl at a US Open qualifier in Greensboro.
 
getsome01 said:
no bashing please. please! with all this earl stuff going on, got me to thinking,(with all the shit he pulls) has earl ever had his ass beat while in a pool room?
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This post is ignorant. I don't want, nor do I think about him getting beat up. There is a never ending storm that rages in the heads of many of our fellow men and women. A possible scenario is an untreated, out of control, and highly irritable manic going postal, striking out at anyone and everyone. Think about that one for a while.

Earl would need a doctor's release to play in my event.

I hope he has family that can assist and get him back on sound footing.
 
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Paul Schofield said:
This post is ignorant. I don't want, nor do I think about him getting beat up. There is a never ending storm that rages in the heads of many of our fellow men and women. A possible scenario is an untreated, out of control, and highly irritable manic going postal, striking out at anyone and everyone. Think about that one for a while.

Earl would need a doctor's release to play in my event.

I hope he has family that can assist and get him back on sound footing.
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Good post.

Best,
Mike
 
Now, I think its a fair question... For this reason: People often say something to the affect of "He won't do that again if he gets a beating", etc.

I know I stopped doing certain things when I almost got a beat down for doing them.

So in Earl's case, the relevant question is: "would he still act like he does if someone beat the crap out of him for acting that way?"

Don't shoot me guys, I'm just offering a different perspective on the original post, and one perspective that is part of human nature and learning (self-preservation).
 
sfleinen said:
I agree with this synopsis. Earl's current storyline reads *A LOT* like the story of another incredibly-talented-but-troubled legend (and arguably the greatest bass guitarist that ever lived), Jaco Pastorius. If you read Jaco's short biography on that link (even the first paragraph will do), you'll see many similarities between him and Earl -- even though, yes, the difference is that Earl's a pool player and Jaco was a bass guitarist. Jaco was diagnosed with bipolar disorder, and unfortunately met a tragic end in a Fort Lauderdale bar when he was literally beaten to death after an altercation.

Of course, one would NEVER wish such things to happen, especially to such unearthly talented people. But such over-the-top talent sometimes intrudes on other aspects of the brain, short-circuiting e.g. good decision-making skills.

-Sean
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Bar none, my favorite bass player and my favorite pool player. Very similar in there behavior.
 
Earl is and was a great pool player. If anyone thinks they need to do a wholesale psychoanalysis on a public forum--I hope you have the credentials and the permission.

Sometimes these situations get "stuck on stupid".
 
Earl would need a doctor's release to play in my event.
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First, discriminating against people on how they dress and now the same for handicapped people.

If someone was in a wheelchair or had palsy, would you bar them as well?

Just another reason that makes me happy that I don't live close to your hall.
I don't believe you're as nice a person as you try and let on you are.

There is such a thing as fair law, you can't treat one person any different than another.
So, you discriminate against one person with a handicap, you discriminate against all of them.

But then, I doubt your establishment could ever attract the type of professional players in Earls category.
 
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sfleinen said:
I agree with this synopsis. Earl's current storyline reads *A LOT* like the story of another incredibly-talented-but-troubled legend (and arguably the greatest bass guitarist that ever lived), Jaco Pastorius. If you read Jaco's short biography on that link (even the first paragraph will do), you'll see many similarities between him and Earl -- even though, yes, the difference is that Earl's a pool player and Jaco was a bass guitarist. Jaco was diagnosed with bipolar disorder, and unfortunately met a tragic end in a Fort Lauderdale bar when he was literally beaten to death after an altercation.

Of course, one would NEVER wish such things to happen, especially to such unearthly talented people. But such over-the-top talent sometimes intrudes on other aspects of the brain, short-circuiting e.g. good decision-making skills.

-Sean
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Earl's behavior is very similar to the great Bobby Fischer's as well.

For those who don't know, he was the greatest American chess champion since Paul Morphy. And..Morphy went nuts at the end, too... :-(

Russ
 
Tennesseejoe said:
Earl is and was a great pool player. If anyone thinks they need to do a wholesale psychoanalysis on a public forum--I hope you have the credentials and the permission.

Sometimes these situations get "stuck on stupid".
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Bingo! Right on target. This entire thread has a destructive tone to it.
 
Russ Chewning said:
Earl's behavior is very similar to the great Bobby Fischer's as well.

For those who don't know, he was the greatest American chess champion since Paul Morphy. And..Morphy went nuts at the end, too... :-(

Russ
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This is a comparison I had thought of many times as well.

IMO Fischer was not just the greatest American chess champion since Morphy, he was the greatest chess champion ever.
 
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