Have Jeanette Lee and others change appearance because of Shanelle Loraine

Wedge

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Karen Coor

The Black Widow is unquestionably the most famous pool player on the planet! Not Jeanette Lee, most people don't know that name, but they damn sure know who The Black Widow is. Pretty good marketing by JL & Co. IMO.
I'm guessing maybe close to 50 out of 100 know who she is, a pool player. And by the way, she is very well paid!

Jay, I posted in response to someone saying earlier in this thread that Karen Corr did not appear to be friendly. My response was that she is one of the nicest people on or off the pool table I have ever met! Care to comment!!

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watchez

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The Black Widow is unquestionably the most famous pool player on the planet! Not Jeanette Lee, most people don't know that name, but they damn sure know who The Black Widow is. Pretty good marketing by JL & Co. IMO.
I'm guessing maybe close to 50 out of 100 know who she is, a pool player. And by the way, she is very well paid!

50?????? That is freakin hilarious.

Ok, you got me - where is a mall in Louisville? We can ask 100 people if they know who Jeanette Lee the Black Widow is. The window is OPEN.

Then we can go back, have Jeanette stand next to us and ask another 100 people.
 

JB Cases

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50?????? That is freakin hilarious.

Ok, you got me - where is a mall in Louisville? We can ask 100 people if they know who Jeanette Lee the Black Widow is. The window is OPEN.

Then we can go back, have Jeanette stand next to us and ask another 100 people.

You have a lock. Jay is being optimistic. I actually paid someone to do this survey a few years ago.

These names were virtually unknown by the people surveyed:

Willie Mosconi
Earl Strickland
Steve Mizerak
Jeanette Lee
Minnesota Fats

Of these Jeanette was most known. But she wasn't even known by name by all, she was often referred to as that hot Asian chick when asked what players the respondent could name.

Steve Mizerak was only known to one person in a sports store because they sold cues and accessories bearing his name. Earl Strickland was not known by the salespeople in a store which sold goods bearing his name, signature and a picture.

Having said that however I have been out to dinner with Kelly Fisher and had people come up and ask for autographs. The top women of the WPBA are recognized by the general public on a small scale.

In 1997 I let Jeanette put out her merchandise at our booth during the World Championships in Taipei. We announced that Jeannette would be signing autographs and within minutes we had a line down the hall. For at least 30 minutes or more Jeanette stood there and signed whatever people wanted. Most of the things people wanted signed were JL merchandise that they paid $10-$20 for. But Jeanette signed programs, notebooks, scraps of paper and did it all cheerfully.

If the rest of the professional players on the planet Earth had just half of Jeanette's drive and desire and work ethic coupled with her marketing savvy then professional pool would be mainstream and the players would be getting PAID. She and Ralf Souquet should both get some kind of award for being examples of what a PROFESSIONAL pool player should be.
 

watchez

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You have a lock. Jay is being optimistic. I actually paid someone to do this survey a few years ago.

These names were virtually unknown by the people surveyed:

Willie Mosconi
Earl Strickland
Steve Mizerak
Jeanette Lee
Minnesota Fats

Of these Jeanette was most known. But she wasn't even known by name by all, she was often referred to as that hot Asian chick when asked what players the respondent could name.

Steve Mizerak was only known to one person in a sports store because they sold cues and accessories bearing his name. Earl Strickland was not known by the salespeople in a store which sold goods bearing his name, signature and a picture.

Having said that however I have been out to dinner with Kelly Fisher and had people come up and ask for autographs. The top women of the WPBA are recognized by the general public on a small scale.

In 1997 I let Jeanette put out her merchandise at our booth during the World Championships in Taipei. We announced that Jeannette would be signing autographs and within minutes we had a line down the hall. For at least 30 minutes or more Jeanette stood there and signed whatever people wanted. Most of the things people wanted signed were JL merchandise that they paid $10-$20 for. But Jeanette signed programs, notebooks, scraps of paper and did it all cheerfully.

If the rest of the professional players on the planet Earth had just half of Jeanette's drive and desire and work ethic coupled with her marketing savvy then professional pool would be mainstream and the players would be getting PAID. She and Ralf Souquet should both get some kind of award for being examples of what a PROFESSIONAL pool player should be.

Just so it is clear, my comments are nothing against Jeannette. I too think she has done better than any living human in realizing how to act in her professional life and promote herself to make money. She has it figured out.
 

1on1pooltournys

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If more than 2 know, then even with what she makes a year - she is under paid.

TWO


Guaranteed more than 2 know her, and will bet Ruth Chris or whatever Italian joint you like. I recently ate with her at Texas Roadhouse and the bartender and probably 4 to 5 customers asked her if she was in town for a pool tournament. The bartender said they have watched her a lot when ESPN airs tournaments (espn classic).
 

RD3P

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did somebody say Boobs???
 

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watchez

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Guaranteed more than 2 know her, and will bet Ruth Chris or whatever Italian joint you like. I recently ate with her at Texas Roadhouse and the bartender and probably 4 to 5 customers asked her if she was in town for a pool tournament. The bartender said they have watched her a lot when ESPN airs tournaments (espn classic).

And I work in an office with 100 people in it.....
 

danquixote

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Anyone that would judge a woman solely on her outward appearance is probably too damn shallow to garner the interest of any. Who dictates "pretty" what are the minimum acceptable physical attributes necessary to qualify. If lady A plays better than lady B....do we spot her a cup size???? I know I'm not the only one that sees the lunacy in this type of post....but then again....I may be the lunatic?????
 

jay helfert

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50?????? That is freakin hilarious.

Ok, you got me - where is a mall in Louisville? We can ask 100 people if they know who Jeanette Lee the Black Widow is. The window is OPEN.

Then we can go back, have Jeanette stand next to us and ask another 100 people.

I know I picked a high number to make my point. She is not unknown by any means. What I would call a minor sports celebrity. I will make you a friendly wager at DCC. We can go into the casino and ask ten people playing slots if they know who the Black Widow is. I bet at least four of them say she is a pool player. If not I owe you another dinner. But If I win it's steak for me this time Stevarino. :grin-square:
 

poolplayer2093

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Why do people feel inclined to put bra cup sizes and measurements in a description of what is beutiful? My princess is the most attractive person I have ever met in my life and also my best friend but by describing her with bra cup sizes and the like I would be doing her an injustice she is way more an attractive person to just be described like a barbie doll, or a Sir-Mix-alot verse.
i gotta agree with GG on this one too.


"put 'em on the glass!!!!!!!!"
 

watchez

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I know I picked a high number to make my point. She is not unknown by any means. What I would call a minor sports celebrity. I will make you a friendly wager at DCC. We can go into the casino and ask ten people playing slots if they know who the Black Widow is. I bet at least four of them say she is a pool player. If not I owe you another dinner. But If I win it's steak for me this time Stevarino. :grin-square:

After they just walked past 1000 pool players and a poster of Jeanette?
 

kcpoolfan

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whats funny is that everyone is talking about what these ladies weaqr and karen doesnt even dress anywhere like them and she still gets noticed
 

greyghost

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Why do people feel inclined to put bra cup sizes and measurements in a description of what is beutiful? My princess is the most attractive person I have ever met in my life and also my best friend but by describing her with bra cup sizes and the like I would be doing her an injustice she is way more an attractive person to just be described like a barbie doll, or a Sir-Mix-alot verse.


actually bro i actually am a smaller boob kind of guy. I always liked a good b/c cup in a woman...never was a big boob man. Then I met my girl, I'm still not a big boob man, but I sure love the hell out of her(and her pillows).

Just like i was engaged to a blonde for some time, and I like brunettes...not really a blond freak.
 

jay helfert

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After they just walked past 1000 pool players and a poster of Jeanette?

Okay, go to your local mall and stop any ten people and ask them if they ever heard of The Black Widow. That's all, just ask and then get back to me.
 

TheBook

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Geroge Burns said it and it is true.

Women dress to impress other women. If they wanted to impress men all they would wear is a pair of sunglasses.
 

Jason Robichaud

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Maybe I'm a pig, but I love to look at beautiful women. Some like works of art, oceans, mountain etc. No painting, to me, will ever compare to the beauty of a woman.

Miss Loraine is with out a doubt, to me, one of the most beatiful women I have seen. If this gives her an advantage to raise funds until she becomes a great player, good for her. It is no different than some having rich parents that allow them to practice instead of working like most others.

Thanks to this site I have seen some of the most beautiful and one of the sexiest, both had pants on... well after she pulled them up, then she had pants and a bra on.
 

NewStroke

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Okay, go to your local mall and stop any ten people and ask them if they ever heard of The Black Widow. That's all, just ask and then get back to me.

Just got back from the mall Jay. Here are the results:

1. 4 people figured it was a woman that wears all black and was convicted of eating 2 of her husbands and their pets.
2. 2 people said it was the chick that advertises beer at Halloween.
3. 2 poeple said she was a porn "entertainer" in Tijuana
4. 2 people dumped their soda on me.
 
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