Highest pool-playing skill level Pool Instructor that you know.
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JB Cases said:There is an art to learning to teach. I have taken lessons from some great professionals and some of them have been able to impart WHAT they do in a way I could understand it and others have only been able to show me the results without a clear understanding of how to teach me how to perform to get those results.
Jose Parica - he would show me things with the cue ball and tell me to do it and I would complain that I can see what he wants but have NO IDEA how to do it.
Rafael Martinez on the other hand was able to explain the different ways to hit the cue ball in such a way that I could grasp the mechanics and improve my touch tremendously.
Other instructors who aren't quite so high a level of player have helped me with my stroke, jumping up, staying focused, pre-shot, and all the things that a good player needs.
I myself am an instructor of sorts in the specialty of jumping balls. When I started selling Bunjee Jump cues I realized that I needed to be somewhat proficient to be able to demonstrate the cue effectively. So I started to study the mechanics of what happens during a jump shot and the mechanics of the player as he or she is executing a jump shot. As I started doing the demonstrations successfully people naturally wanted to try the great new shots they were seeing.
But, what happended? They were having difficulty performing those shots or even being able to jump the ball at all. So I had to learn to teach.
This took me a while to acquire the skills to be able to quickly evaluate and isolate the problem that an individual was having and to be able to correctly communicate the solution. Belive me, this is no easy task on both fronts. You can have two people with the exact same problem and the same answer might not work for both of them.
There have been times when I wanted to tell someone that they were hopeless.But many times my friends came to the rescue, Jerry Olivier, Leslie Rogers, Chris McDaniel and others to impart their instruction and that was what made the difference for the person I wasn't getting through to.
Now, I am capable of teaching anyone to jump balls correctly and accurately within the span of half and hour. I regularly instruct players who are much better than myself and refine their technique.
I am surprised no one mentioned Bert Kinister. I don't know how well he plays. Also how about Tim Miller, the Monk? How good does he play? Or Bob Henning? I have seen him take down some matches against top notchers from time to time.
I think though that my vote for the strongest person who is primarily an instructor first and a player second would go to Joe Tucker. Having said that I am basing it purely on nothign more than my opinion which has no basis in facts as I don't know the history and records of all the instructors out there. I just like the fact that Joe shares so much with the world for free and he takes the time to come up with truly useful tools that work AND he can play.
(ok Joe, there's your free promo now send me my Aim Trainer)
Actually Bert, Tim and Bob all play very sporty. Again they all spend more time at their job than on the pool table. Joe Tucker is also on my top three list.....SPF=randyg
APA7 said:
If you're just an amateur player, put that $1000 where your big mouth is and play Dave some since he's an average amateur. Otherwise.......
SHUT THE FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF UP
APA7 said:Since U brought it up, have U ever seen him play?
Has anybody seen him play??
Has any player from the old days ever played him???
I didn`t think so. Thank you.
Brian
All you seem to want to do is stalk Dave and talk trash about his game. To be completely honest, I don't give a rats ass how he plays. He comes on here and offers INTELLIGENT(something I have never seen from you) ideas and NEVER asks for anything in return. If you have no respect for his game fine, but if you're anything more than a sub-human you would at least respect his passion and dedication.
Koop said:
Well said. David has more to offer here than almost anyone.
Instructors do not need to be world beaters when it comes to playing. For example, Earl Weaver was arguably one of the best baseball managers of all time and not a particularly good player. Ted Williams was arguably one of if not the greatest hitters of all time and a mediocre manager.
I will take Scott Lee, Randy G, David Sapolis any day of the week. I am not knocking their play, but saying it takes a special person to communicate their ideas to someone else.
If Dave gets to set up a break shot and start from there you have a bet Brian. I will back Dave for your limit of $1500 and the money has to be frozen. Dave has 8 hours to run 75 balls without missing. When he misses then he starts over.
Now it's up to Dave - I will be happy to share this action with anyone who wants a piece of it. I think it's stone cold stealing and I love free money.
Hell Grady used to tell people he'd run a hundred before the night was out or the exhibition was free. I didn't hear of him giving up too many free exhibitions.
Now it's up to Dave - I will be happy to share this action with anyone who wants a piece of it. I think it's stone cold stealing and I love free money.
Hell Grady used to tell people he'd run a hundred before the night was out or the exhibition was free. I didn't hear of him giving up too many free exhibitions.
Neil...Brian is not saying Blackjack gets only 2 tries to run 75...he is saying David gets 8 hrs TO TRY to run 75. APA7 is just another ignorant moron who can't spell.
BTW Brian...The money for David is already posted. Where's yours, and how soon do you want back up your big mouth? Yesterday is not soon enough!
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
BTW Brian...The money for David is already posted. Where's yours, and how soon do you want back up your big mouth? Yesterday is not soon enough!
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Neil said:
Koop said:
Hey brother,
You know how it goes on this board, just have a beer and shake your head, lol.
I agree on Joe's abilities playing high level Pool. I also gotta plug a guy I've worked with; Tony Robles. Great teacher, tons of knowledge and has the skill to execute what he is teaching.
Eric
JB Cases said:
i'm small money but i'll put a hundred or two towards it. i don't know apa7 or blackjack but everyone seems to have a good opinion of black jack and i know way too many apa 7's who lost thier mind when they got that little number after thier name. if black jack is willing to do this apa7 ya gotta back up your words with your cash
Jason...I doubt that Brian/apa7 has the guts to put up the $1500 that he boasts about.
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee said:
That's about the truth. I never said BJ Dave is the best on earth - I'm just saying an "average amateur" he definitely isn't. Anyone who runs three-figures in 14.1 isn't average, period. I think calling Dave an average amateur triggered me. He could have kept his comment "in line" with an opinion and I wouldn't have responded. He's outta line. He won't call any bet. JB shut him up. If BJ pops balls to get into stroke for a few days, I can't see him not winning that bet. Heck, he may not need to warm-up.
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ghostball said:
I agree, I mentioned your name earlier in this thread.
This video speaks for itself, not many people could walk in cold without a warmup, pull their cue out of the case, and run 100 balls while stopping and explaining what they are doing to the students. Impressive.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8294808311951707336
The discussion at the end about the mental aspect of the game was also excellent.
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Lessons & this week's BIG TOURNAMENT.
I was hoping to get some valuable information about your opinions and I got exactly what I was hoping for. I was thinking about going to the BIG TOURNAMENT this week in Fayetteville, NC at King's Billiards where there's $20,000 added for the nine ball tournament and $5,000 added for the one pocket tournament.
If I go, besides getting a lesson in the one pocket tournament, I was hoping to get a lesson from one of the many top players there. Do any of you know if any of the instructors mentioned in this thread are going to be there?
If I go up, it will be on Thursday morning. If you check out the thread in the Tournament section, you might consider going as well.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=108473
Thanks,
JoeyA
I was hoping to get some valuable information about your opinions and I got exactly what I was hoping for. I was thinking about going to the BIG TOURNAMENT this week in Fayetteville, NC at King's Billiards where there's $20,000 added for the nine ball tournament and $5,000 added for the one pocket tournament.
If I go, besides getting a lesson in the one pocket tournament, I was hoping to get a lesson from one of the many top players there. Do any of you know if any of the instructors mentioned in this thread are going to be there?
If I go up, it will be on Thursday morning. If you check out the thread in the Tournament section, you might consider going as well.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=108473
Thanks,
JoeyA
What pro events have you played?APA7 said:
What players have you beat?
What years were you playing pro or on the road?
It's not a good idea to bash one of the smartest and most respected members on this forum.
I happened to have taken lessons from him and he has helped me with my game.
The man knows his stuff! Believe that!
Just another thought...
This thread has proven itself very interesting and informative. I was interested in hearing the opinions of others about who they believe were a top playing pool instuctor and not a debate.
It is truly sad that APA7 has decided to pollute this thread. APA7's attempt to discredit one of the honored instructors on AZ Billiards (and a valuable contirbutor to boot) is despicable, unwarranted and unappreciated.
JoeyA
This thread has proven itself very interesting and informative. I was interested in hearing the opinions of others about who they believe were a top playing pool instuctor and not a debate.
It is truly sad that APA7 has decided to pollute this thread. APA7's attempt to discredit one of the honored instructors on AZ Billiards (and a valuable contirbutor to boot) is despicable, unwarranted and unappreciated.
JoeyA
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