I want to ask the cuemakers a question..

tattoo

tattoo

Tatuaje in the house🤘🏻
Silver Member
how many of you send your new cues out with joint protectors....now i am not talking about custom ordered joint protectors that were paid for but just the cheap plastic kind that run about 8 bucks for 2 pieces..i have allways wondered why someone would ship a cue out without them...this is not a jab at any cuemakers just wondering what yall think about sending a new cue out without them....thanks in advance for any reply....mickey carroll
 
Every cue goes out the door with protectors. It isn't worth taking a chance on a chipped joint collar and they are cheap enough.
 
tattoo said:
how many of you send your new cues out with joint protectors....now i am not talking about custom ordered joint protectors that were paid for but just the cheap plastic kind that run about 8 bucks for 2 pieces..i have allways wondered why someone would ship a cue out without them...this is not a jab at any cuemakers just wondering what yall think about sending a new cue out without them....thanks in advance for any reply....mickey carroll
Click to expand...


I do not include them myself, however, if the customer requests a set Custom made or other wise I will include them.

As far as sending out a cue without them, it really makes no difference at all if the cue is packed properly.

JIMO
 
Hi I guess becouse I make so many sets of j/ps they are expected . Not always the case, tho . Jim
 
Delrin joint protectors are standard equipment....custom will cost you a little extra! I've got around $3 in a set of three. Whats that say to the customer if you ship them a brand new custom built cue and you don't think enough about the cue to put a set of delrin caps on it?
 
I bought a nice cue, and when it arrived, the pin was sticking through the bottom of the box. Luckily, it was still niice and straight. It was a used cue, but still, as much as I paid for it (over $700) it would have been nice to have some added protection.

Joe
 
joint protectors

BarenbruggeCues said:
Delrin joint protectors are standard equipment....custom will cost you a little extra! I've got around $3 in a set of three. Whats that say to the customer if you ship them a brand new custom built cue and you don't think enough about the cue to put a set of delrin caps on it?
Click to expand...

:D:D:D: YES, YES AND YES :grin::grin::grin:
 
I hate making joint protectors. When I ship a cue. I will make one out of scrap wood. To protect the pin. Just takes afew min and dosen't cost anything.

Larry
 
snipershot said:
I bought a nice cue, and when it arrived, the pin was sticking through the bottom of the box. Luckily, it was still niice and straight. It was a used cue, but still, as much as I paid for it (over $700) it would have been nice to have some added protection.

Joe
Click to expand...

They could have packed it a little better too!

I'm all for joint protectors, but if you need them to protect your cue during shipping, then I think there is a bigger priority than joint protectors.
 
thanks all for the comments....please more even if you dont send them out with your cues......just wandering the reason to do or not to do from a cuemaker standpoint....thanks again mickey carroll
 
manwon said:
I do not include them myself, however, if the customer requests a set Custom made or other wise I will include them.

As far as sending out a cue without them, it really makes no difference at all if the cue is packed properly.

JIMO
Click to expand...

craig i agree with your statement about it being packed properly but not all cues that i have recieved in the mail have been packed to what i would think is sufficent..i know that i over pack ever cue and case that i ship because i want it to get there without any problems caused by me and in the grand schemes of things an extra 10 bucks in shipping supplies wont break me....now with that being said i have never recieved a cue that was damaged by lack of packing so i guess i have been lucky.....often cues come with non standard joint pins that are more difficult to come by....and if a cuemaker uses a odder style pin wouldnt it be easier to atleast offer some kind of protection for pin until buyer can find or have joint protectors made....LIKE I SAID I AM NOT PICKING OUT ANY CUEMAKER OR LOOKING TO START A WAR......just wondering the reasons to not ship cues out without them...
 
tattoo said:
craig i agree with your statement about it being packed properly but not all cues that i have recieved in the mail have been packed to what i would think is sufficent..i know that i over pack ever cue and case that i ship because i want it to get there without any problems caused by me and in the grand schemes of things an extra 10 bucks in shipping supplies wont break me....now with that being said i have never recieved a cue that was damaged by lack of packing so i guess i have been lucky.....often cues come with non standard joint pins that are more difficult to come by....and if a cuemaker uses a odder style pin wouldnt it be easier to atleast offer some kind of protection for pin until buyer can find or have joint protectors made....LIKE I SAID I AM NOT PICKING OUT ANY CUEMAKER OR LOOKING TO START A WAR......just wondering the reasons to not ship cues out without them...
Click to expand...
Hi Buddy, you are SAME as me:thumbup:
I have worked with UPS over 3 Years and I seen alot, you would never ship a Cue again.
Ralf
 
J/P's

Not from a cue maker, but I did receive a cue once that was obviously mishandled and had the pin sticking out of the box. Fortunately, no damage to the pin. But I was pretty lucky.
 
BarenbruggeCues said:
Whats that say to the customer if you ship them a brand new custom built cue and you don't think enough about the cue to put a set of delrin caps on it?
Click to expand...

It says that I don't put much faith in joint protectors. I don't use them on my own cue, and i'd be willing to bet i'm harder on my cue than anybody else is with a bought cue. I don't worry about chipping the joint. Unless I drop the unassembled cue, how will the joint get chipped? I suppose if something goes wrong in shipping then it could be an issue. To the best of my knowledge, it's never happened to me. I have had cues disappear from the box, broken inside the box, and even somehow scratched up inside the box. But never have I had the joint chipped up from shipping. The only chipped up joints I see is when somebody drops a shaft or a butt while assembly/disassembly of the cue, and often times the cue has J/P's but the guy doesn't get a chance to put them on before dropping the cue. I can't count all the times I have seen people fumbling with J/PS and cues.

That said, I do feel J/P's 'may' offer some degree of moisture transfer protection. For that reason alone I like them. But I don't believe it's enough to matter. So, in my experiences, J/P's have been as much a problem as they have protection. IMO, some folks just think they're cool, like granny likes a spike collar on her lil puppy, or young college age girls like flowers hanging from their rear view window. Serves no purpose except the owner thinking it's cool. I have been around cues a LONG time & simply haven't yet witnessed practical justification for J/P's.
 
If the customer somehow drops a shaft when unpacking his new cue he will be grateful that the cuemaker thought enough to spend a little part of 1% of the cost of the cue protecting it. No one thinks joint protectors are for moisture protection, those would be condoms. If the customer doesn't want to use them, I won't force him to, if he does, he has them.
 
Joint caps to me are just a little touch to the finished product that says you care enough to include them. I really don't think they have a practical purpose and I personally don't use them when I get out to play. Although, I do include a derlin set with every cue I sell because most people like them. As far as making them it's a big pain in the a$$....
 
For me, if nothing else, it's a final detail thing. In my mind, it makes a statement to me that says I care about my cues. Anything additional gained from it is a plus. For delrin caps it takes minimal $ and effort compared to what I've invested in the rest of the cue and it takes what...2.5 seconds of time per cap to screw them on.

It's the hub cap on wheel....the bow in the little girls hair....it's that first impression you got when you looked at your now wife.
Well...maybe that last one wasn't a good analogy for some.;)
 
All my cues come with joint protectors standard when their new, even sneeky petes and break cues. I think its a good finishing touch.
 
thanks guys for all the comments and post....i just wanted to see what the thinking was about the use of them when shipping....i appreciate hearing both sides....mickey
 
I guess I don't get it. I assume nobody thinks I don't care about my cues, or care about how they're handled. Why would I bother building them if I didn't care? So why would anybody assume a cue maker cares 'more' because he includes plastic J/P's? Is somebody seriously going to tell me that I don't care as much about my cues as they care about theirs simply because they use J/P's & I don't? Seems like nonsense to me. It reminds me of that monkey see monkey do kind of thing, and then making up a reason for it rather than having a reason first. Not trying to piss in anybody's wheaties, just calling it like I see it. J/P's look good and have become popular. But for actual protectiveness, I don't see it. Looks more like accessorizing to me.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top