In regards to Bonus Ball
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i agree, people want to see balls go in, offense sells-especially to people that dont know anything about pool, and to a extent who do know about pool. snooker pockets on a pool table-even with no shelf is just bad. I realize that having a run-out fest isnt good either. so perhaps 4.25"-4.5" would be a solution that would still make a tuff game, and not to many 30 & out's.
I sold my house to a guy who owns a Casino, I learned lots about that biz and their resources from that transaction and getting to know him. I didnt realize what I didnt know about that biz, until meeting him. Its amazing what they can do.
If a casino was involved that arena would have been built out in 30 days or less. hell they build 3 floors a day when the joints go up. They have their own inspectors and more resources than NASA has(well almost).
Speaking of 30-&-outs.
From what I have heard and read, if a player breaks and runs 30 points, the game is over. Wouldn't it be better to give the opponent a chance at the table that game? Let him break and try to run 30 points. If he fails to B&R 30, he loses; if he does B&R 30, then have a shootout.
A player only has one singles game in a match. A particular doubles pair only has one doubles game in a match. If the opponent, or the opposing team, breaks and runs 30 points, that player or team would never get to play their singles/doubles game.
i dont know the rule on 30 and out, i just know they wont be many on the snooker pockets. good question on that.....as well.
I just hope it all works out. I just think the pockets are too tight and people wont understand the misses. people who dont know about pool.
I go to a room that has 4" pockets on all the tables, maybe one has 4.25". I hear the bangers talk and say things "like lets go play where the games go faster" or " why is this so hard"-thats the one that gets me, they dont know why its so hard, they cant figure out the holes are tiny-thats the masses and its ok, but not for pool.
With the skill level I am seeing today, generous pockets lead to a breaking contest in most current games.
Maybe the BB structure takes that out of the equation. But then again, with a shot after the break guaranteed, BB could turn into a run out fest in a hurry.
Time will tell once the pros figure out the game.
Look at pros playing bar box 8 ball short races like we have seen lately to see a breaking contest, fun to watch for a real short time then kind of boring.
Maybe the BB structure takes that out of the equation. But then again, with a shot after the break guaranteed, BB could turn into a run out fest in a hurry.
Time will tell once the pros figure out the game.
Look at pros playing bar box 8 ball short races like we have seen lately to see a breaking contest, fun to watch for a real short time then kind of boring.
The resources I can believe. The question I have is about motivation. Unless some muckety-muck gets a bizarre notion to do a pool thing, why would a casino itself get involved? I thought they were not interested in giving money away.
This is a good point. It took about 70 years to figure out 9 ball and show that it was fundamentally broken as a test of skill. Maybe the evolution of BB will be faster. I think we are likely to see major rules changes in the next year.
I really agree with the break and run then the opponent getting a crack at it. It makes total sense. I would also like to see a ticker at the top of their website with updated scores but Im sure Nathan has thought of everything. 
The game plays great with the three pocket concept. The table does challenge the pro's but you don't see professional golfers playing par nines and mini-pool. Perhaps the simplicity of eight ball and nine ball have kept this sport from becoming main stream. Im not Chiboraks Mom, I am a fan of this new game, Bonus Ball. Talking to Johnny Archer, he convinced me a year ago that this is a great game. I have to say all the pool players that get on here saying the game is anything other than good is a slap in the face to these pro players. I'm going to side with Johnny Archer.
The game plays great with the three pocket concept. The table does challenge the pro's but you don't see professional golfers playing par nines and mini-pool. Perhaps the simplicity of eight ball and nine ball have kept this sport from becoming main stream. Im not Chiboraks Mom, I am a fan of this new game, Bonus Ball. Talking to Johnny Archer, he convinced me a year ago that this is a great game. I have to say all the pool players that get on here saying the game is anything other than good is a slap in the face to these pro players. I'm going to side with Johnny Archer.
Speaking of 30 and outs I heard Toasti had a run of 60 points. Very impressive, but I was wondering how it was done. Was it in back to back games? In my opinion that would technically not be a continuous run. Or is there some reason he would have kept going beyond 30?
The regular 8-game match ended in a tie at 7-7. Apparently in that case they have a shootout to determine the match winner. Hohmann and Frost were picked by their teams for the shootout. Hohmann went first and ran 60 points. Frost did not.
PS. With someone running 30 balls on just the third day of play, I think we should give the tight pockets a much longer look.
well said, some pros will do better than others with these pockets. Some will really struggle, its all about position, just like any other game.
McDonald's can tear down a restaurant and have a new one in its place in two months.
That's because they and casinos have resources, plans and contractors they know. A newbie to Las Vegas has a good shot at being duped. We all know the stories of contractors who do a crappy job, take way longer than stated, or jsut don't finish the job.
the new game part is huge and their success rides on its acceptance with the targeted audience. I must not be in the targeted demographic , cuz it looked like a chinese fire drill to me.
I think bonus ball is a great game having watched a few matches. As a great of a game as it is, however, nobody outside of the pool community is going to take the game seriously until you come up with a better name for it.
Bonus Ball is a stupid name for a pool game. It sounds like some cheesy carnival game where you win a teddy bear if you toss a ball in a barrel or something to that effect. You need to rebrand the game if you're going to be successful with it.
I hope the game becomes a big success but please change the name. You're never going to get the masses to watch as long as it's called Bonus Ball.
Bonus Ball is a stupid name for a pool game. It sounds like some cheesy carnival game where you win a teddy bear if you toss a ball in a barrel or something to that effect. You need to rebrand the game if you're going to be successful with it.
I hope the game becomes a big success but please change the name. You're never going to get the masses to watch as long as it's called Bonus Ball.
Ah ok that makes sense thank you. Also based on what I watched 30 would be a darn good run. 60 sounds phenomenal.
i was there 20 years and still had problems getting the trades to do their jobs, in LA its a hanger. Vegas is tough action