Very interesting. Not that it matters, since a deal is a deal, but did it look like you were going to end up winning when he jumped ship on you?
Jayson Shaw is looking for a tournament backer
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Very interesting. Not that it matters, since a deal is a deal, but did it look like you were going to end up winning when he jumped ship on you?
I gave him the money to stake half the game and I went to bed. I took a huge hit when he was playing Richie Rick sweating on the side and thought I'd take a chance. I had no idea that he was leaving in the morning and he didn't bother telling me. All I know is that he supposedly had to catch a plane, so he quit in the middle of the set and the guy he was playing was nice enough to pro-rate. Rather that giving me a call, he just took off with my money in his pocket. Hell, he had to check out of his room so it's not like I couldn't have met him in the lobby when he was checking out to get paid out. When I asked about it I got the "Man, it's only $150" conversation. Some people don't understand that it's not about the money, it's about the principal of the thing. Sure, I was probably wrong in backing a game and going to bed, but it's not like he didn't have my number.
Why?
Rather than offering up an official statement from the company, you prefer to invite rumors and speculation about you and your modus operandi?
Kim its hard for me to understand why you'd approach it this way, given the backlash and misunderstandings last time.
Free advice: Its easier and cheaper to prevent forest fires than to put them out.
Wow, talk about taking advantage. Sorry that had to happen to you man, pros really need to start acting like "professionals", because that term is being thrown around very loosely recently and some are very undeserving of the title.
I am now craving pistachio you (bleep)
Well, let me make sure that people don't think I'm saying he dumped or anything. Everyone I spoke to said he played his heart out, it was just a VERY tough game he was in. I just thought he could have given me a call instead of just taking off. I was a 10 minute walk down the hall, I could have met him in the action room before he had to leave to catch his flight.
I completely agree, that's exactly what should've happened. It wouldn't even matter if he played horrible and knew he was going to lose, the important thing is having respect and doing what's right. Even if he was in a rush or didn't have time to meet up, a simple paypal transaction or check could've sufficed.
I'm not saying he's not good for the money or anything... I know he'll remember it and I know he'll pay me the next time we see each other. My original post was actually just a simple ribbing of him... giving him shit. He's a good guy and I'll back him again anytime. I just want him to know that I felt a little slighted and that I thought he could have done things differently. In fact, I could have done things differently here by keeping my mouth shut and replying that I was just busting his balls. Now I've got him mad at me because it's coming off like I'm trying to drive people away, even though I was just ****ing around.
He'll be at the expo and I'm sure he'll give you the money if you're there.
Or maybe his backer will. But ya have to be there to collect or it goes into Accts Receivable.
Would a golf model work?
In golf a group of investors will often get together to form financial support for an up and coming young pro golfer. I came across this article offering advice on how to do it as a golfer. Perhaps this model would work in pool if the investment was not short term focused. Maybe the payback could be structured to give the pro more time to become a dominate player. Or maybe there are wealthy investors who would like to be a part of the forming of a champion.
Here is the article:
How to Obtain Funding for a Professional Golf Career
By Robert Lee, eHow Contributor
Obtaining funding for a golf career can be challenging.
Starting a career as a professional golfer can be expensive. In team sports such as football and basketball, you're usually drafted out of college and almost immediately receive a signing bonus and contract that could be worth millions of dollars. However, in golf there isn't a player draft, and there are no signing bonuses or salaries . Players have to cover all of their expenses, usually with the help of sponsors and investors, until they begin winning enough prize money in tournaments to make a good living. The first step for the player is to raise enough money to begin his career.
Instructions
o 1 Start by creating a budget for playing at least one season on a professional golf tour. You will need a minimum of about $45,000, according to the golf website Pro Launch. That money will cover travel costs, tournament entry fees and related expenses. Your first-year expense budget could be more or less, depending on the number of tournaments you enter, where they are located and the level of travel accommodations you prefer.
o 2 Create an investment prospectus. This document will be a part of the presentation you make to potential investors. It should include a cover sheet, letter of introduction, your golfing highlights and accomplishments , a detailed tournament schedule, and projected income and expense budget. The proposal should be extremely well-written without errors in grammar or math and should be easy to understand.
o 3 Identify potential investors. Start with people you know, such as friends and relatives. Launch a personal website to attract others. Use social networking tools such as Facebook, Twitter and Linkedin to build a following that could create additional leads.
o 4 Decide how you will repay your investors. If your goal is to raise $50,000, consider finding 25 people to invest $2,000 each. Or find 10 to invest $5,000 each. Some may expect a financial return; others may be happy just to be a part of your inner circle and to be invited to tournaments, parties and other events. Others may want a percentage of the prize money that you win--a common practice according to BusinessWeek magazine. The magazine said golfing legend Arnold Palmer started his career with funding from just one sponsor who wanted nothing monetarily in return. On the other hand, former golfer Roger Maltbie raised $18,000 to start his pro career in 1975, and in return he promised to turn over half his winnings that first year to his investors. The prospectus you present to potential investors should not discuss financial returns. Handle that through conversation as you consider the individual interests of the potential investors.
o 5 Make appointments with your potential investors and raise the money you need to start your pro career. If the fundraising falls short of your goal, consider reducing your expense budget. Or consider alternatives, such as an additional round of presentations, a bank loan or using your credit card for the first year's expenses.
In golf a group of investors will often get together to form financial support for an up and coming young pro golfer. I came across this article offering advice on how to do it as a golfer. Perhaps this model would work in pool if the investment was not short term focused. Maybe the payback could be structured to give the pro more time to become a dominate player. Or maybe there are wealthy investors who would like to be a part of the forming of a champion.
Here is the article:
How to Obtain Funding for a Professional Golf Career
By Robert Lee, eHow Contributor
Obtaining funding for a golf career can be challenging.
Starting a career as a professional golfer can be expensive. In team sports such as football and basketball, you're usually drafted out of college and almost immediately receive a signing bonus and contract that could be worth millions of dollars. However, in golf there isn't a player draft, and there are no signing bonuses or salaries . Players have to cover all of their expenses, usually with the help of sponsors and investors, until they begin winning enough prize money in tournaments to make a good living. The first step for the player is to raise enough money to begin his career.
Instructions
o 1 Start by creating a budget for playing at least one season on a professional golf tour. You will need a minimum of about $45,000, according to the golf website Pro Launch. That money will cover travel costs, tournament entry fees and related expenses. Your first-year expense budget could be more or less, depending on the number of tournaments you enter, where they are located and the level of travel accommodations you prefer.
o 2 Create an investment prospectus. This document will be a part of the presentation you make to potential investors. It should include a cover sheet, letter of introduction, your golfing highlights and accomplishments , a detailed tournament schedule, and projected income and expense budget. The proposal should be extremely well-written without errors in grammar or math and should be easy to understand.
o 3 Identify potential investors. Start with people you know, such as friends and relatives. Launch a personal website to attract others. Use social networking tools such as Facebook, Twitter and Linkedin to build a following that could create additional leads.
o 4 Decide how you will repay your investors. If your goal is to raise $50,000, consider finding 25 people to invest $2,000 each. Or find 10 to invest $5,000 each. Some may expect a financial return; others may be happy just to be a part of your inner circle and to be invited to tournaments, parties and other events. Others may want a percentage of the prize money that you win--a common practice according to BusinessWeek magazine. The magazine said golfing legend Arnold Palmer started his career with funding from just one sponsor who wanted nothing monetarily in return. On the other hand, former golfer Roger Maltbie raised $18,000 to start his pro career in 1975, and in return he promised to turn over half his winnings that first year to his investors. The prospectus you present to potential investors should not discuss financial returns. Handle that through conversation as you consider the individual interests of the potential investors.
o 5 Make appointments with your potential investors and raise the money you need to start your pro career. If the fundraising falls short of your goal, consider reducing your expense budget. Or consider alternatives, such as an additional round of presentations, a bank loan or using your credit card for the first year's expenses.
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When this thread started I had remembered that Jayson was indeed sponsored by str8shots. I also know what their typical sponsorship includes. Some of that is travel, hotel and entry. I found it peculiar that Jayson was now looking for sponsorship.
My question is this, without the details, is jayson currently being sponsored by str8shots? I know the agreements were for a minimum of 1 year. If he is no longer sponsored, I'd like to know.
Thanks
When your user name is the name of your organization, and then you make comments like this, don't act surprised when people assume both you and Str8 Shots are a joke.
Seriously, why does pool attract people with zero common sense?
I've backed many pool players down through the years, most of them profitably. We never made a lot of money but we did come out ahead. Keith was a good horse for me a long time ago, winning as much as 25K at a time! I did well with Tang Hoa when he was at his peak. His best was 18K we collected when he finished second at the U.S. Open. There have been many others!
My standard deal was that I would pay the expenses and that would come off the top, back to me. After that was paid back, we would split the winnings 50-50. If you have a good horse that can be profitable. You won't get rich, but you won't get hurt either. First money comes back to you to cover expenses! That about covers it.
My standard deal was that I would pay the expenses and that would come off the top, back to me. After that was paid back, we would split the winnings 50-50. If you have a good horse that can be profitable. You won't get rich, but you won't get hurt either. First money comes back to you to cover expenses! That about covers it.
I'm confused...do you know him or do you not know him?
Not trying to nit-pick, just cruising through the thread
I do *not* know him. Only that he's from Scotland and shows emotion, which I think is a good thing.
Thread title: Jayson Shaw is looking for a tournament backer.
After reading the thread: Jayson Shaw is no longer sponsored by Str8 Shots and now needs a tournament backer; thus, a thread was born.
Conclusion: Jayson Shaw should avail himself to social media networks. Effort in this area would pay off in the end, to include attracting prospective funders.
After reading the thread: Jayson Shaw is no longer sponsored by Str8 Shots and now needs a tournament backer; thus, a thread was born.
Conclusion: Jayson Shaw should avail himself to social media networks. Effort in this area would pay off in the end, to include attracting prospective funders.
Not sure how I quoted jam, meant to quote post from prior page that opined str8shots showed lack of common sense by asking what the story was.
I'd edit, but on phone...
I'd edit, but on phone...