Jeanette and Calcutta?

satman said:
I think I know who Hoss is, and if I'm right, I don't think he'd say it if it wasn't true. He'd be someone I'd trust.
If Hoss said it, you know it's true. Little Joe, well, that's another story. Gotta watch a couple of them Cartwrights.
 
worldison2 said:
Good ideas, Sam, but I'm going to stick with my insticts and not convict Jeanette based on innuendo and hearsay.

I already said that I didn't know whether this happened or not, but there's an awful lot of people in this thread that are ready to crucify her without all the facts.

Bob Riley
Home poolroom - Comet Billiards NJ

Nice to meet you Bob! I'm sure we're both in agreement that even if every detail were inspected from top to bottom with both sides present that there would be discrepancies between their stories. Neither of us can state facts in this case so our opinions are just that...opinions. I'll accept yours the same as you do mine and we as outsiders can sit and watch as the "truth" comes to light.

Like you, I really don't like either party in a dispute trying to act like their statements are facts. Everyone's viewpoint is jaundice due to their own personality and events leading up to an occurance so lets not accept anyone's word as if it were law.

Anyway, I'm sure we'll talk again as AZBilliards Forums is a small world! Until the next time... take care of you and yours sir.
 
Celtic said:
It is not hearsay if the person relating a event is an actual eye witness dipshit. The whole definition of hearsay is a person relating something they "Heard", not something they actually witnessed themselves and Hoss said himself "I was there" so it is thus by frickin definition NOT hearsay. The bloody word itself is it's own definition, you should think for a second before actually using it next time. It happend, she is not the angel you wish she was, get over it and stop trying to attack people who were actually there and know a hell of alot more about the event then you do.


And this earned you a warning.
 
If this story is true I'm not at all surprised. I learned long ago to never buy anyone in a calcutta (espescially pros!) except myself, because I KNOW I'm not dumping. I've seen people have more grief in calcutta's involving a pro player they bought than they ever have with local players. I've seen pros make deals where they try to tell you "I'll pay a third but I get back half" and they have you by the balls because you know they'll dump in a heartbeat if you don't give in. I even once saw a well-known pro dump his match at one of these handicapped tourny's (it was obvious he dumped), later I overheard him tell a friend "It was his turn to win this thing" meaning the player he lost to.

It seems a lot of pro players (not all) never lose that 'get the money at any cost" hustler mentality.
 
TheNewSharkster said:
Read your last post and then read the terms of agreement for this site.

When a member of the forum has his character attacked by another member who basically comes right out and calls him a liar about an event they actually witnessed in person, and the person doing that attack on the repute of that person has no direct knowledge of the event in the slightest and thus has no basis for that attack on the persons reputation I find that to be quite wrong and I stand by what I said. I actually read what I write before I hit submit and when I do hit that button what you see if what I want to actually say, every time.

If a person having their honesty and character being attacked on this forum by another member who has no reason to do such and no personal knowledge of the situation whatsoever is cool, yet people standing up for the person who has done nothing to earn that kind of disrespect or that kind of attack on their character is somehow seen as the true discontent on the thread, let me know, this will be my last post on AZBilliards after being a contributing member of the group for about 10 years.

Worldison2 was out of line and I stand by telling him such and that is going to continue to take place if the mods ust ignore the stuff like Worldison2 attacking the character of a member of the forum until someone gets sick of it and calls him on it.
 
Celtic said:
When a member of the forum has his character attacked by another member who basically comes right out and calls him a liar about an event they actually witnessed in person, and the person doing that attack on the repute of that person has no direct knowledge of the event in the slightest and thus has no basis for that attack on the persons reputation I find that to be quite wrong and I stand by what I said. I actually read what I write before I hit submit and when I do hit that button what you see if what I want to actually say, every time.

If a person having their honesty and character being attacked on this forum by another member who has no reason to do such and no personal knowledge of the situation whatsoever is cool, yet people standing up for the person who has done nothing to earn that kind of disrespect or that kind of attack on their character is somehow seen as the true discontent on the thread, let me know, this will be my last post on AZBilliards after being a contributing member of the group for about 10 years.

Worldison2 was out of line and I stand by telling him such and that is going to continue to take place if the mods ust ignore the stuff like Worldison2 attacking the character of a member of the forum until someone gets sick of it and calls him on it.
While I agree with everything you wrote here, I think it was the use of the word dipshit that earned you the warning. It was unnecessary, because your entire post was very well written and using that word dumbed it up a bit.

Again, I totally agree with you.
 
From a very reliable source...

Here is what a reliable source had to tell me today and those that know me know I wouldn't post this if I did not completely trust this version of the story. I will not bring others into it but we agreed it was appropriate to post Jeanette's version.

Jeanette arrived to the tournament and realized she had forgotten her cuestick. She drove back home, which is about a 40 minute drive as I have driven from the venue to her house before. When she returned to the tournament the calcutta was over and she went to speak to the directors. She told them that she wished to buy herself and asked who bought her. They replied the guy who bought her had left and that they would vouch she was willing to buy herself back before tournament started. Apparently the gentleman that bought her did not show back up around until the end, and when told she had asked to buy herself for half before the tourney started he did not accept. He refused to compromise even after the directors told him she wanted to buy herself before the tournament started and long before she was down to the final 6 players. So, after several attempts at negotiating she unscrewed and left.

There you have it, another side to the story, and if it's an accurate discreption I think the tournament directors should have did more and just forced the guy to let her buy herself, after all they were holding the money. Or at least had her give them half before the guy got there to hold in good faith or something.
 
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1on1pooltournys said:
Here is what a reliable source had to tell me today and those that know me know I wouldn't post this if I did not completely trust this version of the story. I will not bring others into it but we agreed it was appropriate to post Jeanette's version.

Jeanette arrived to the tournament and realized she had forgotten her cuestick. She drove back home, which is about a 40 minute drive as I have driven from the venue to her house before. When she returned to the tournament the calcutta was over and she went to speak to the directors. She told them that she wished to buy herself and asked who bought her. They replied the guy who bought her had left and that they would vouch she was willing to buy herself back before tournament started. Apparently the gentleman that bought her did not show back up around tell the end, and when told she had asked to buy herself for half before the tourney started he did not accept. He refused to compromise even after the directors told him she wanted to buy herself before the tournament started and long before she was down to the final 6 players. So, after several attempts at negotiating she unscrewed and left.

There you have it, another side to the story, and if it's an accurate discreption I think the tournament directors should have did more and just forced the guy to let her buy herself, after all they were holding the money. Or at least had them give her half before the guy got there to hold on good faith or something.

rofl.......FALSE, the person who bought her in the tournament also PLAYED in the tournament and he DID NOT drive to the event, he carpooled with other players, he was there the ENTIRE time, your "side of the story" is a little off......lol and what kind of pro drives an hour away to play in a pool tournament and "forgets" their main source of income???
 
clolson said:
rofl.......FALSE, the person who bought her in the tournament also PLAYED in the tournament and he DID NOT drive to the event, he carpooled with other players, he was there the ENTIRE time, your "side of the story" is a little off......lol and what kind of pro drives an hour away to play in a pool tournament and "forgets" their main source of income???

Like I said, just stating what a very reliable source told me. I think Brian Gregg should step in here if this is not how it went and clear it up. He posts here and was also the director at
the tournament. B....where you at?

Edited to inform clolson that many people forget their cues, even pros!!
 
u12armresl said:
"i won't even dignify this by asking her about this as i am totally confident this is an inaccurate portrayal of what did or did not happen"

ROFLMAO

Glad you're not a juror in a case. So you don't want the facts, but you are confident this is not the way it happened.
I am however an expert witness at trials and am 61-1 in trials. I know JL and doubt the story as presented; I am her friend but totally objective when given all the facts; follow along and see how the story changes after your post.
 
1on1pooltournys said:
Like I said, just stating what a very reliable source told me. I think Brian Gregg should step in here if this is not how it went and clear it up. He posts here and was also the director at
the tournament. B....where you at?

Edited to inform clolson that many people forget their cues, even pros!!

she could have forgot her cue i was just being playful with that line but he played in the tournament, he was there all day.
 
I don't think Brian has internet service right now, or computer problems. Since Jack asked me to post about the bank clinic. That is officially 2 sides to the story. One more to go. Now lets choose up sides, meet in a parking lot at a bowling alley or mall, and have a snowball fight with pool balls. Last person standing, their side wins and thats the correct version of the story.

The preceding post, is done in jest. Please, no violence allowed..........
 
Neil made a great post, but I have to wait a while to rep him again......put me in the same spot, I'm not quitting just because the guy won't let me buy my half, whether at the beginning or not.....she should have taken the high road, won the tourney, and hoped the guy kicked her a few dollars for the effort.....typically, first place pays pretty well regardless, so it's not like she would have played for free....
 
Big Perm said:
Neil made a great post...

I don't post much anymore, but I have to wholeheartedly agree with this post and Neil's. I feel the exact same way that there is no reason to put any pro (any sport) on a pedestal... I have never understood why people do that.
 
Wow, what a cool thread (I've been out of the country for a couple of weeks, and return to find this:smile: ).....unfortunately, a bit of misinformation from both critics and supporters so far. I was quite surprised at the general tone of many of the contributors; I had thought that civil discourse was going to become the norm around here. I have already received a share of criticism without even being in the same country as the event.

I've been asked to relate the other side of the story, but it's way too late tonight. I'll post something tomorrow with the other side of the story; but will post it in a new thread to be easier for the soap opera fans to find. The other side is certainly a bit different and equally believeable - I'm sure both fans and trolls will be titillated.
 
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