Jeanette and Calcutta?
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Celtic said:
Apparently, you haven't read the rules.
What part of calling anyone here "dipshit" do you feel is within the rules?
Feel free to re-read the rules before further comment.
Wow alot of heat in this thread , It's like someone on trial for Murder , Who's telling the truth and who's not .:scratchhead:
Kinda like the latest OJ trial......lolRob_jerrylee said:
lol now that's funny .$TAKE HOR$E said:
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this thread can be closed Mr.Wilson
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this thread can be closed Mr.Wilson
I can say that I would....that's about it though.
Not only would I pay even if I finished out of the money, I did pay after finishing one place out of the money.
I can't say that Jeneatte would or did, only that I did.
In the Waco ten ball open a year or so ago, Robert "snake" stewart bought me in the calcutta and then offered to split it with me. I agreed.
I got knocked out one place out of the money for the calcutta and had to leave and he wasn't there so I left. Ray (big truck) called me and asked if I had agreed to pay half. I said I did and explained that Robert wasn't at the tourney when I left. I told him to give me an address and I'd send him a check. I did.
Again, although I'd like to give JL the benefit of the doubt, it's kind of hard in a situation like this. The logic of it is pointing toward her feeling jaded and wanting to take it out on the guy who bought her. Hell, maybe it was an honest mistake of forgetting about clarifying it with the guy, but it wasn't her option at that point because she failed to secure it before the matches started.
Just my 2 cents.
Jaden
Celtic said:
Not only would I pay even if I finished out of the money, I did pay after finishing one place out of the money.
I can't say that Jeneatte would or did, only that I did.
In the Waco ten ball open a year or so ago, Robert "snake" stewart bought me in the calcutta and then offered to split it with me. I agreed.
I got knocked out one place out of the money for the calcutta and had to leave and he wasn't there so I left. Ray (big truck) called me and asked if I had agreed to pay half. I said I did and explained that Robert wasn't at the tourney when I left. I told him to give me an address and I'd send him a check. I did.
Again, although I'd like to give JL the benefit of the doubt, it's kind of hard in a situation like this. The logic of it is pointing toward her feeling jaded and wanting to take it out on the guy who bought her. Hell, maybe it was an honest mistake of forgetting about clarifying it with the guy, but it wasn't her option at that point because she failed to secure it before the matches started.
Just my 2 cents.
Jaden
clolson said:
Ahem... excuse me.... but I resemble that remark!
I once left Arkansas heading to New York to play in a WPBA event and somewhere around Pennsylvania I realized I had left my cue! (I wasn't born blonde, but sure missed a good chance!) I had to call home and have them Fedex it to the tournament site. It beat me to New York.
Hmmmmmm.......
This isn't entirely true. While the attorney obviously has to do his job well (a big part of which is getting the appropriate expert witness), the expert witness can often be the deciding factor, depending on the type of case. And some trials are little more than a battle of opposing expert witnesses with the winner being determined by which expert witness the jury found more credible.APA7 said:This iz such a dumb thing 2 say, an expert witness isn`t a lawyer and don`t win any trials:frown:
Brian
It's like this....
Person A leaves work early and takes the long-way home just to stop by his mistress's house (and he's been married for years). He has a perfect driving record and never speeds.
Person B leaves a bar after a wild happy-hour at the same time as person A - driving straight home since he's obviously drunk.
Person B, obviously sloshed, blows through a stop sign and broadsides Person A's brand new Porshe.
Who's at fault???
Many would immediately say Person B because he was DUIing and not paying attention.
I say it's 100% Person A's fault because he put himself in that position by doing something he shouldn't have been doing to begin with. Person B was merely a factor of the scenario.
When bad things happen, you have to have enough self assessment to tell if you did something stupid to put yourself in that situation.
The OP didn't lock it up early on. People might go-off saying person so-and-so wasn't honorable, etc. But hey, when cash is involved - there's rarely honor in any sport. Even if the player arrived with the OP in the same car - you still lock it up. Sometimes, it's the people you know best who might try a maneuver...so why not lock-down JL?
Person A leaves work early and takes the long-way home just to stop by his mistress's house (and he's been married for years). He has a perfect driving record and never speeds.
Person B leaves a bar after a wild happy-hour at the same time as person A - driving straight home since he's obviously drunk.
Person B, obviously sloshed, blows through a stop sign and broadsides Person A's brand new Porshe.
Who's at fault???
Many would immediately say Person B because he was DUIing and not paying attention.
I say it's 100% Person A's fault because he put himself in that position by doing something he shouldn't have been doing to begin with. Person B was merely a factor of the scenario.
When bad things happen, you have to have enough self assessment to tell if you did something stupid to put yourself in that situation.
The OP didn't lock it up early on. People might go-off saying person so-and-so wasn't honorable, etc. But hey, when cash is involved - there's rarely honor in any sport. Even if the player arrived with the OP in the same car - you still lock it up. Sometimes, it's the people you know best who might try a maneuver...so why not lock-down JL?
The Out! One more possible scenario?
If this was a C player's tournament and they allowed her to play in it, then she was WELCOME. Let's get that out of the way.
Secondly, it is possible that Jeanette had forgotten about buying half of herself. It has happened to me and I have to imagine it has happened to others and could have happened to Jeanette. When realizing that she hadn't bought half herself, she could have gone to the person to buy half herself and the person denied her. The way that she was denied the opportunity to buy half of herself is important as well. A snide remark coupled with a no, could elicit more than just a negative response from MOST PEOPLE.
Even a certain look from the Calcutta buyer could bring forth a negative response from practically ANYONE.
It is also possible that she didn't think she had to go to the trouble of explaining that she had forgotten (after all if it was a C player tournament, why wouldn't she buy half of herself). If she did go to that trouble, a denial by the Calcutta buyer could have dented her pride and you know what they say about a woman scorned.
Anyway whether there is more to the story or not, this is a miniscule faux pas on one or more parties. She could have had a friend there who said the Calcutta buyer was a "jerk" and been encouraged to show the "jerk" that the Calcutta money didn't mean anything to her and it was simply a way for him to be punished for a previous injury that he caused to another.
The list could go on and on and I don't mean to make excuses for her. Jeanette's a big girl and maybe she needs a little tartness added into her attitude while gambling. (I consider Calcutta gambling) The cover girl/beauty queen/billiard pro thing on the cover of magazines and television advertisements all over the world is just a little too diva for me. I like a real woman. It's hard to appreciate their finer points without a little meanness in them.
JoeyA
If this was a C player's tournament and they allowed her to play in it, then she was WELCOME. Let's get that out of the way.
Secondly, it is possible that Jeanette had forgotten about buying half of herself. It has happened to me and I have to imagine it has happened to others and could have happened to Jeanette. When realizing that she hadn't bought half herself, she could have gone to the person to buy half herself and the person denied her. The way that she was denied the opportunity to buy half of herself is important as well. A snide remark coupled with a no, could elicit more than just a negative response from MOST PEOPLE.
Even a certain look from the Calcutta buyer could bring forth a negative response from practically ANYONE.
It is also possible that she didn't think she had to go to the trouble of explaining that she had forgotten (after all if it was a C player tournament, why wouldn't she buy half of herself). If she did go to that trouble, a denial by the Calcutta buyer could have dented her pride and you know what they say about a woman scorned.
Anyway whether there is more to the story or not, this is a miniscule faux pas on one or more parties. She could have had a friend there who said the Calcutta buyer was a "jerk" and been encouraged to show the "jerk" that the Calcutta money didn't mean anything to her and it was simply a way for him to be punished for a previous injury that he caused to another.
The list could go on and on and I don't mean to make excuses for her. Jeanette's a big girl and maybe she needs a little tartness added into her attitude while gambling. (I consider Calcutta gambling) The cover girl/beauty queen/billiard pro thing on the cover of magazines and television advertisements all over the world is just a little too diva for me. I like a real woman. It's hard to appreciate their finer points without a little meanness in them.
JoeyA
anyone who has ever played in any kind of tournament with a calcutta would tell you that the player has to go and pay his half if he wants it before the tournament starts. If the tournament kicks off, its entirely up to the person who bought the player to decide whether to give them a piece.
No matter what happened here, in no way whatsoever can I can think of a situation where a player can legitimately ask for pay for their half one match before the money (9 hrs later). No way, thats ridiculous. Only thing more ridiculous to me would be if she had asked AFTER she was in the money.
That said, this isnt the first time, nor will it be the last time that a player has decided to forego potential reward to screw a calcutta buyer. I have seen that happen so many times, its pretty much buyer beware in calcuttas. The smart play would have been for the buyer to immediately let the player know that they plan to jelly roll the player in the event they cash.
No matter what happened here, in no way whatsoever can I can think of a situation where a player can legitimately ask for pay for their half one match before the money (9 hrs later). No way, thats ridiculous. Only thing more ridiculous to me would be if she had asked AFTER she was in the money.
That said, this isnt the first time, nor will it be the last time that a player has decided to forego potential reward to screw a calcutta buyer. I have seen that happen so many times, its pretty much buyer beware in calcuttas. The smart play would have been for the buyer to immediately let the player know that they plan to jelly roll the player in the event they cash.
Celtic said:
You were warned because you called someone a dipsh*t. You should have read the forum rules. It clearly says:
"To be included, there will be no ad hominem attacks. No name calling nor insults. Disagreeing with someone is fine, but calling them an idiot because of their opinion is not."
I am not taking sides here. Simply explaining why you got warned. Calling people childish names is going to do that almost every time I would guess.