Joey A's Dinner Donation

[gabesmom]

I don’t think that AZB was a “sponsor” and so did not get plugged. However, I seem to remember him acknowledging some people as being from AZB on more than one occasion. He did not have any trouble plugging the works of various commentators. So all in all I would guess that he acted in a professional manner.

I got that impression...he was sooooo professional! So calm, cool, collected ALL the time. Knocked my socks off. And some of his guests too, especially Double J!!

I hope JoeyA & his wife gets to enjoy a wonderful dinner and a little R & R before he appears before the AZB firing squad to defend himself. :grin: :grin:

 

[JoeyA]

I just got in a little while ago and checked my regular email and saw that someone had sent me $150 via PayPal so I sent them an email and told them that they must have sent the dough by mistake. I could tell it was from ontherail but didn't know if it was Lenny or someone else.

Anyway, I open up AZ Main Forum to this and your thoughtfullness, kindness and generosity humbles me. I'm exhausted. NO SLEEP last night at all. Got 1 1/2 hrs around 7 am before heading to the airport. I couldn't go to sleep without thanking all of you.

I'll post a lot more after I get some good rest. It has been a grueling week and I have enjoyed every minute of it, especially acknowledging your interaction in the Live Stream Chat Room.

Hope to "talk" to you soon.

THANKS!

JoeyA

 

[abbassi]

Sure Lenny, I'll exit. Please post the other names in this thread to follow my leave as I don't want to be singled out and stand alone.

Here's a bone: Nice job JoeyA. Thanks for the entertainment. JJ was your best counterpart and should be repeated as often as possible.

In fairness to Watchez, he is a respected member of AZ and the pool scene, and has a right to ask the questions he did. Joey A, will probably answer the question and that will be that. I wont make any speculation either way.
I know that if it were not for AZ, I would have never known about Galviston.

So lets be tolerant of each other.

 

[Fast Lenny]

In fairness to Watchez, he is a respected member of AZ and the pool scene, and has a right to ask the questions he did. Joey A, will probably answer the question and that will be that. I wont make any speculation either way.
I know that if it were not for AZ, I would have never known about Galviston.

So lets be tolerant of each other.

Sorry but asking the question in a thread giving a dog a bone does not need people ready to hit the dog on the head with the bone, sorry Joey if you are being referred to as a dog but you sometimes do dog it. Frankly he probably was payed to do a job and if his job was to mention just those sponsors listed then I have no problem with it, I myself did hear Joey mention AZ Billiards a couple times in the few times I tuned in so I just do not get it at all. Its always nice when a good thread turns sour on here or has to have someone taking the JAM out of the AZ donut.

 

[SJDinPHX]

In fairness to Watchez, he is a respected member of AZ and the pool scene, and has a right to ask the questions he did. Joey A, will probably answer the question and that will be that. I wont make any speculation either way.
I know that if it were not for AZ, I would have never known about Galviston.

So lets be tolerant of each other.

Watchez can also be a contrary, nit-picking jerk, at times, who seems to relish controversy wherever he can stir it up.

He and John Barton are the main reason I, and many other's, don't check in much anymore. (and I AM being tolerant)

 

[watchez]

Watchez can also be a contrary, nit-picking jerk, at times, who seems to relish controversy wherever he can stir it up.

He and John Barton are the main reason I, and many other's, don't check in much anymore. (and I AM being tolerant)

The ironic and ultimately pathetic part on your behalf is that you agree with me that AZ should have gotten more mention and more use to promote Galveston. Or were you just stealing my thoughts in another thread?

Taylor Road Productions main focus, should be on recognizing that there are people out there, that are very skilled at just what you are suggesting, (TAR is learning the ropes VERY fast in that area) and will involve those people more, in future events.

The fact that they chose not to involve TAR, and their lack of exposure on AZB...just shows how much they were out out of touch with the mainstream of the pool world, at the crucial stages of their planning.

 

[Matt90]

Much Rep to you Lenny !!

Sorry but asking the question in a thread giving a dog a bone does not need people ready to hit the dog on the head with the bone, sorry Joey if you are being referred to as a dog but you sometimes do dog it. Frankly he probably was payed to do a job and if his job was to mention just those sponsors listed then I have no problem with it, I myself did hear Joey mention AZ Billiards a couple times in the few times I tuned in so I just do not get it at all. Its always nice when a good thread turns sour on here or has to have someone taking the JAM out of the AZ donut.

You did a good thing starting this thread for our friend Joey .Seems alot of
folks only know how to tear down and not build up .It's sad but the good
on here still out weighs the bad so I do check in and I gotta renew my membership
as well. Also know that Joey has been a member of many internet forums concerning pool
since before AZ was born .....nuff said .
Maybe we need tighter moderation on the forums starting with if it
does not concern you ,mind your own business, if you can't say something
positive,etc... . I doubt that will happen but I can do it myself .....after all thats
all I have the power to change .

 

[$TAKE HOR$E]

This posts makes absolutely no sense. Everything after your first 7 words contradicts itself. Did you mean to say does need ?

Joey A does not need to mention AZB, we all know AZB and Joey A and with AZB there would not have been thousands of viewers on the stream.

Without AZB many pool entities would not make it, many cuemakers on here sell here along with casemakers, small billiards businesses and cue dealers, TAR and myself along with many others just would not be able to do what we do without the big jump start from AZB. I do believe those who are benefiting from AZB business wise could spend the $30 or whatever it is on a membership to show support and appreciation. I notice most pool sites are rather dead, I can go to some and my post from 6 months ago might still be on page 1!

How is this. When you break it up it's like pros and cons. I did not hear him mention any pool forum specifically so none of them were off limits. One would think that as much as people use AZB it would get mentioned on every stream.

 

[JoeyA]

Watchez can also be a contrary, nit-picking jerk, at times, who seems to relish controversy wherever he can stir it up.

SJD, I am very sorry that you and others do not post here as frequently as most of us would like.

This forum is diminished greatly by Watchez constant sniping and disparaging remarks toward others valued members of this forum and other industry members.

Watchez has been an antagonist of JR Calvert and Inside Pool Magazine for years. He lays in wait, hoping to nuture and harbor resentment toward JR and Inside Pool Magazine who are positive contributors to the pool world. I know very little about their past encounters and don't care to know any more. I do care that Watchez wastes this forum's space in trying to taint a valued member of the pool industry in this forum.

It is with great saddness that I see Watchez continue to chase members from this forum. His continued attacks on other forum members and his attempt to bring other controversies that he has been personally involved in, taints this forum and its members.

It is important to remember that if we are to be respected by other industry leaders, we must first respect each other.

While Watchez doesn't deserve any response from me, I thought some of you might be interested in knowing some things about my perspective on a couple of items.

When I am hired to do professional pocket billiard commentary, I have an obligation to use that time to promote my employer's primary interests and the interests of the sponsors of the event that I do commentary for.

I do not know what the future will hold for me or other commentators but I wish to uphold the highest standards of professionalism for my employer and their sponsors.

It would be a disservice to any of my employers to have an opening signature line that advertises any particular entity. That is why I use the opening line that refers to the Internet Forums. AZBilliard members know me

Watchez apparently doesn't value other member's threads and regularly seeks to sidetrack the thread originator's message. It is unfortunate that he is allowed to do this and even more sad that I respond.

For the record, my employer for the Galveston event was Taylor Road Production, not Inside Pool Magazine or JR Calvert.

Watchez nor anyone else is entitled to know my private business but for this one time, I thought I would share this limited information.

Thank you again for all of your generosity and appreciation.

AZBilliards can be a better forum if forum members respect each other and their fellow member's threads and posts.

JoeyA

 

[Josh Palmer]

SJD, I am very sorry that you and others do not post here as frequently as most of us would like.

This forum is diminished greatly by Watchez constant sniping and disparaging remarks toward others valued members of this forum and other industry members.

Watchez has been an antagonist of JR Calvert and Inside Pool Magazine for years. He lays in wait, hoping to nuture and harbor resentment toward JR and Inside Pool Magazine who are positive contributors to the pool world. I know very little about their past encounters and don't care to know any more. I do care that Watchez wastes this forum's space in trying to taint a valued member of the pool industry in this forum.

It is with great saddness that I see Watchez continue to chase members from this forum. His continued attacks on other forum members and his attempt to bring other controversies that he has been personally involved in, taints this forum and its members.

It is important to remember that if we are to be respected by other industry leaders, we must first respect each other.

While Watchez doesn't deserve any response from me, I thought some of you might be interested in knowing some things about my perspective on a couple of items.

When I am hired to do professional pocket billiard commentary, I have an obligation to use that time to promote my employer's primary interests and the interests of the sponsors of the event that I do commentary for.

I do not know what the future will hold for me or other commentators but I wish to uphold the highest standards of professionalism for my employer and their sponsors.

It would be a disservice to any of my employers to have an opening signature line that advertises any particular entity. That is why I use the opening line that refers to the Internet Forums. AZBilliard members know me

Watchez apparently doesn't value other member's threads and regularly seeks to sidetrack the thread originator's message. It is unfortunate that he is allowed to do this and even more sad that I respond.

For the record, my employer for the Galveston event was Taylor Road Production, not Inside Pool Magazine or JR Calvert.

Watchez nor anyone else is entitled to know my private business but for this one time, I thought I would share this limited information.

Thank you again for all of your generosity and appreciation.

AZBilliards can be a better forum if forum members respect each other and their fellow member's threads and posts.

JoeyA

Agreed Joey! And enjoy that dinner, we all enjoyed your commentary:smile:

 

[SJDinPHX]

The ironic and ultimately pathetic part on your behalf is that you agree with me that AZ should have gotten more mention and more use to promote Galveston. Or were you just stealing my thoughts in another thread?

I fail to see the comparison or the similarity you are trying to point out. (but then I rarely do)

As for me "stealing" your thoughts, I would first have to have a desire to read one of your innuendo laced, condescending, argumentative diatribes. (which again I rarely do)
That is unless you are horning in on a thread I happen to take an interest in, and I get fed up with your "holier than thou" attitude.

Its not worth my time or effort to talk in riddles and try and debate someone of your demeanor and obstinence.
Go ahead and take over this thread, and all of AZB if you like...I could care less.

No need to respond, I'll just take another 3-4 month break...maybe things will improve next time I look in.

SJD

 

[lfigueroa]

SJD, I am very sorry that you and others do not post here as frequently as most of us would like.

This forum is diminished greatly by Watchez constant sniping and disparaging remarks toward others valued members of this forum and other industry members.

Watchez has been an antagonist of JR Calvert and Inside Pool Magazine for years. He lays in wait, hoping to nuture and harbor resentment toward JR and Inside Pool Magazine who are positive contributors to the pool world. I know very little about their past encounters and don't care to know any more. I do care that Watchez wastes this forum's space in trying to taint a valued member of the pool industry in this forum.

It is with great saddness that I see Watchez continue to chase members from this forum. His continued attacks on other forum members and his attempt to bring other controversies that he has been personally involved in, taints this forum and its members.

It is important to remember that if we are to be respected by other industry leaders, we must first respect each other.

While Watchez doesn't deserve any response from me, I thought some of you might be interested in knowing some things about my perspective on a couple of items.

When I am hired to do professional pocket billiard commentary, I have an obligation to use that time to promote my employer's primary interests and the interests of the sponsors of the event that I do commentary for.

I do not know what the future will hold for me or other commentators but I wish to uphold the highest standards of professionalism for my employer and their sponsors.

It would be a disservice to any of my employers to have an opening signature line that advertises any particular entity. That is why I use the opening line that refers to the Internet Forums. AZBilliard members know me

Watchez apparently doesn't value other member's threads and regularly seeks to sidetrack the thread originator's message. It is unfortunate that he is allowed to do this and even more sad that I respond.

For the record, my employer for the Galveston event was Taylor Road Production, not Inside Pool Magazine or JR Calvert.

Watchez nor anyone else is entitled to know my private business but for this one time, I thought I would share this limited information.

Thank you again for all of your generosity and appreciation.

AZBilliards can be a better forum if forum members respect each other and their fellow member's threads and posts.

JoeyA

The one thing I find most interesting in this post is the revelation that you were getting paid for the Galveston commentary.

When I think back to all the cheer leading you did prior to and for this event, it puts all that in a totally new light. Certainly, in the interest of full disclosure, that should have been said upfront whenever you came here banging the pots and pans and constantly urging people on AZ to support the event.

Which brings to light a second issue: AZ was good enough for the event, via their paid surrogate, to incessantly promote the event. But apparently this same forum was deemed not good enough for them to come to and answer questions from forum members, nor worthy of a mention on the streams.

Lou Figueroa

 

[pro9dg]

The one thing I find most interesting in this post is the revelation that you were getting paid for the Galveston commentary.

When I think back to all the cheer leading you did prior to and for this event, it puts all that in a totally new light. Certainly, in the interest of full disclosure, that should have been said upfront whenever you came here banging the pots and pans and constantly urging people on AZ to support the event.
Lou Figueroa

I cannot believe that anyone should feel that he has the right to "full disclosure" of anyone's personal motives. Joey is not answerable to anyone.

Your attitude implies that he would support something bad just as long as he was getting paid to commentate on it. He is my friend and I know that he has far more principles than that.

He worked hard and gave his all for something in which he believed.

AZ are in the business of providing news (whether it came from Joey or not). This can come from Staff journalists or from postings on the Forums.

 

[Johnnyt]

Another well ment thread ruined by trhe same few. Johnnyt

 

[watchez]

The one thing I find most interesting in this post is the revelation that you were getting paid for the Galveston commentary.

When I think back to all the cheer leading you did prior to and for this event, it puts all that in a totally new light. Certainly, in the interest of full disclosure, that should have been said upfront whenever you came here banging the pots and pans and constantly urging people on AZ to support the event.

Which brings to light a second issue: AZ was good enough for the event, via their paid surrogate, to incessantly promote the event. But apparently this same forum was deemed not good enough for them to come to and answer questions from forum members, nor worthy of a mention on the streams.

Lou Figueroa

It was a nice try for JoeyA to try to single me out on my question about why he was JoeyA from the internet forums and not state AZ one time that I heard on the stream. However, if you read this entire thread (and the many reps I have received because of my question), I am not the only one with the question.

I do agree with Joey that respect needs to be shown in the pool world. And if you want to bang that drum in front of the band, you should lead by example. Any success that Galveston had in viewership was in large part to the free advertising done on these forums. From the 'let's ask the promoters questions' to the threads of who will be attending the event all sparked interest in this event. From Joey's reply, it was a specifc request to not mention AZ on the stream. That is sad. Maybe someday pool will show respect as Joey wishes. I seriously doubt it.

 

[JoeyA]

The one thing I find most interesting in this post is the revelation that you were getting paid for the Galveston commentary.

When I think back to all the cheer leading you did prior to and for this event, it puts all that in a totally new light. Certainly, in the interest of full disclosure, that should have been said upfront whenever you came here banging the pots and pans and constantly urging people on AZ to support the event.

Which brings to light a second issue: AZ was good enough for the event, via their paid surrogate, to incessantly promote the event. But apparently this same forum was deemed not good enough for them to come to and answer questions from forum members, nor worthy of a mention on the streams.

Lou Figueroa

Lou-Lou,
At times you really do act like a prissy little, spoiled, prepubescent girl who expects everyone to do or say what she wants. This is one of those times but I'll make an exception just for old times sake, even though it is none of your business. While I am new in this business, this isn't my first well paid commentary job.

It is one of the reasons that I stopped responding to your incessant meowing.

One other thing: Just for the record, my encouragement of others to support this tournament was all ME and I would do it all over again sans responses to naysayers.

Also, for those of you who are wondering, in spite of probably taking a financial beating on this event, Taylor Road Production has made suggestions that this isn't the last event for them. They truly care about pool and pool players.

RAH-RAH-RAH. Go TAYLOR ROAD PRODUCTION.

JoeyA

 

[pro9dg]

Lou-Lou,
At times you really do act like a prissy little, spoiled, prepubescent girl who expects everyone to do or say what she wants. This is one of those times but I'll make an exception just for old times sake, even though it is none of your business. While I am new in this business, this isn't my first well paid commentary job.

It is one of the reasons that I stopped responding to your incessant meowing.

One other thing: Just for the record, my encouragement of others to support this tournament was all ME and I would do it all over again sans responses to naysayers.

Also, for those of you who are wondering, in spite of probably taking a financial beating on this event, Taylor Road Production has made suggestions that this isn't the last event for them. They truly care about pool and pool players.


JoeyA

Such restraint. You really are a class act Joey

 

[JoeyA]

Such restraint. You really are a class act Joey

Doug,
I sincerely appreciate your thoughts and your friendship.

This thread and some of the things that have been said and not said are causing me to think about some of our other posters who do not post here as often and in some cases, not at all.

I also have been thinking about why some industry suppliers, cue makers, professional players, manufacturers and promoters do not interact with this forum.

While posting in this forum has given me great pleasure for many years I may need to start thinking about abstaining from posting in this forum or at least think about reducing my interaction here.

The constant sniping and back-biting is sad but more importantly it can't be good for the forum.

JoeyA

 

[watchez]

Lou-Lou,
At times you really do act like a prissy little, spoiled, prepubescent girl who expects everyone to do or say what she wants. This is one of those times but I'll make an exception just for old times sake, even though it is none of your business. While I am new in this business, this isn't my first well paid commentary job.

It is one of the reasons that I stopped responding to your incessant meowing.

One other thing: Just for the record, my encouragement of others to support this tournament was all ME and I would do it all over again sans responses to naysayers.

Also, for those of you who are wondering, in spite of probably taking a financial beating on this event, Taylor Road Production has made suggestions that this isn't the last event for them. They truly care about pool and pool players.


JoeyA

uhhhhhhh so much for acting with respect towards each other that you require

And I hope you got the full amount they guaranteed you upfront. The players didn't.

 

[lfigueroa]

Lou-Lou,
At times you really do act like a prissy little, spoiled, prepubescent girl who expects everyone to do or say what she wants. This is one of those times but I'll make an exception just for old times sake, even though it is none of your business. While I am new in this business, this isn't my first well paid commentary job.

It is one of the reasons that I stopped responding to your incessant meowing.

One other thing: Just for the record, my encouragement of others to support this tournament was all ME and I would do it all over again sans responses to naysayers.

Also, for those of you who are wondering, in spite of probably taking a financial beating on this event, Taylor Road Production has made suggestions that this isn't the last event for them. They truly care about pool and pool players.

JoeyA

ah, very classy, from the "Lou-Lou," to the "prissy little, spoiled, prepubescent girl" reference and the "meowing" part. Well done, Joey. (Sorry to have hit a nerve.) And spoken like someone well qualified to run for office. Maybe you should give it a go -- all this practice you're getting will serve you well when discussing allegations of backroom deals and campaign contributions.

And just as a reminder: you put the part about getting paid for the commentary gig, here. Once posted here, information does become every one's business and grist for the mill. Or does that come as a surprise to you after all these years on the internet?

In any case, none of that changes that you were, at the least, disingenuous with your nonstop cries for everyone to invest time and money. And it doesn't change the fact that AZ was good enough to work for fans and players and hits on a stream and web site, but not good enough for a mention. Oh well, who knows... from the turnout they got, I don't know, maybe people are smarter than you thought. It will also be interesting to see, if there are future efforts from this group, how their credibility will be viewed by the pool playing public at large, in the out years.

Lou Figueroa