Joey Korsiak won't honor $100 owed

TurdFerguson said:
Haha...yup, I have a little time on my hands.

And I do feel jilted...my first trip to vegas as a pool player...in awe of the Pros in the 10 ball....

After a few days and a couple of brief converstions, this PRO presents me with this request for $100, and states that he is a reputable professional, and he wants to see me look at the game in a positive light.

Yes, he has struck a blow against any young, aspiring pool player looking up to their idols.

So, yes, I have allotted some time to make sure others are aware of this person and his lack of character. It pisses me off a great deal, especially when i see him entering and playing in tourneys and challenge matches so much. he obviously could send the money.

In my opinion, this person has just said "**** it" and hoped I would go away. NOT.

And, I will be in Vegas next spring, so that will be as long as I am owed the money, if it is not paid by then.
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Don't let it get the best of you. This is a cheap lesson to harden you up to not loan money to people at all unless you are aware the odds are it will not be paid back.

Just write it off - he has no intention to pay and any attempt to strong arm him could make you end up owing him a ton of money. Even just a shove is considered assault and you could end up having to pay him tens of thousands of dollars if the right lawyer gets ahold of it.

It's not worth the aggravation.

Chris
 
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Ooooo yeah, midget women are hot. I dated a very tiny women for awhile. I don't know if she would have been considered a midget
but she was perfect in every way. Lucky if the top of her head came up to the top of my stomach area.

Bud I have to give you some advice on this idea of ratting him out to his wife. If he messes around on his spouse, then I feel sorry for her but its one thing to humiliate him or give him a ***** slap in front of someone but its totally another thing to hurt his wife and possibly his children with info like that.

If hes a dick, his wife will find out sooner or later any way.
Just be cool about that part, for now anyway. It sounds to me that you were part of the action in the room
so in a way, you may have not instigated it but you condoned it by being there.
 
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If you walk into any pool hall anywhere and a pool player comes up to you and asks for $100 dollar "loan" your chances of getting that money back are slim.

I thought everybody knew that.
 
A couple of things come to mind.

The first is a wonderful quote from Mark Twain that, unfortunately, I'm too lazy to look up for exactness, but it goes something like this:

The more he told me how honest he was, the harder I watched my silverware drawer.

I can't imagine being so impressionable that someone saying 'I'm a professional pool player and a good man' would get me to open up my wallet for him.

There is no doubt we're all wired differently.

I am firmly in the camp, however, of those who believe it's the principal and not the amount involved. Here's an example of how extreme it can be.

My house is set back off the road a good ways. Approx 4 years ago, someone started systematically stealing flowers and shrubs from my two roadside gardens where they obviously felt safe to do their stealing. Not only was it far from view but there are also stone walls offering cover.

The stolen flowers and shrubs might have cost, in total, $300 to $500.

I now have a sophisticated $3500 security camera system covering the entire property, including one camera way up in a tree panning the entryway at the roadside. That SOB has never been back to steal another plant, since - But I showed him! Oh wait, I'm out about four grand, now. :rolleyes: Hey guys, you don't think it could have been the security camera salespeople stealing my flowers, do you? :p :cool: :o

Well, anyway, I think more than most here, I can sympathize with the op in that I wouldn't write off the c-note either.

I wouldn't expose myself to any legal problems while doing it but I'm pretty confident I would be getting my hundred back.

Thank you, Mr. Ferguson, for providing az with this public service announcement. You may well save someone else a little money. :thumbup:

Best,
Brian kc
 
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Sounds like Joey picked the wrong guy to stiff. He probably figured he'd never see you again. What really sucks is when you have to ask for your own money back, and are made to feel like a chump just for asking. When in reality, you shouldnt have even had to ask.

If I did lend money to a stranger though, I'd give a big fat hug and kiss to every bill that left my pocket. I wouldnt plan on seeing that money ever again.
 
Joey doesn't have a wife. He doesn't even have a girlfriend as of now. He definitely has the money and could give it it you easily. Just keep pestering OP and I'm sure you'll get it. I also have his phone number if you want.
 
Kickin' Chicken said:
......Well, anyway, I think more than most here, I can sympathize with the op in that I wouldn't write off the c-note either......
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I know what you mean, I'm wired the same way. I don't believe in coincidence.

Your flower/camera story reminds me of this "Far Side" cartoon I saw a while back...
 

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Mickey Qualls said:
Your flower/camera story reminds me of this "Far Side" cartoon I saw a while back...
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The Far Side is awesome, I have a hard time deciding between it and Calvin and Hobbes which are the best but it is certainly between those 2 and nothing else is even close.
 
Bambu said:
Sounds like Joey picked the wrong guy to stiff. He probably figured he'd never see you again. What really sucks is when you have to ask for your own money back, and are made to feel like a chump just for asking. When in reality, you shouldnt have even had to ask.

If I did lend money to a stranger though, I'd give a big fat hug and kiss to every bill that left my pocket. I wouldnt plan on seeing that money ever again.
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Me too, the thing is, when you lend money to "friends" in pool halls, you don't see that money come back either.

This is live and learn, for the rest of your life you know not to do this now.... so just think how much this guy could have saved you.
 
Blue Hog ridr said:
Ooooo yeah, midget women are hot. I dated a very tiny women for awhile. I don't know if she would have been considered a midget
but she was perfect in every way. Lucky if the top of her head came up to the top of my stomach area.
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Hmm, there's an old joke in there somewhere...
 
learned my lesson

when i was at the u s open the year of the hurricane a well know player asked to borrow $20 (i gave him $40) because his backer got scared and headed home before the hurricane hit. i have seen this gent maybe a hundred times and have never brought it up. i figure if he is that cheap to not pay it back then screw him. whats more funny is he even says hi. saw him at 1 tournament where he cashed. i was on my way to the men's room and he said he would pay me before he leaves. well guess what, when i came out of the men's room he was long gone......live and learn i say....never again.....mike
 
I've used the quick snatch a few times

When somebody owed me money with no intention of paying I've waited until they had money out sometimes and then made the snatch. Hard for them to argue, they know they owe you the money. They don't want a big conversation about a bad debt in front of the people they are dealing with either. Catching somebody posting up and before a set starts is a fine time for this.

Another major chuckle, a man had a racing component I needed that was rarer than hen's teeth, worth $250 or $300 but I had been hunting one for months with no luck. He had owed me sixty dollars for several years on another deal. When I grabbed the component he wasn't there and I got it from his brother-in-law. I told the in-law that Carl and I were even on the last deal or he could come hunt me up for the difference. Never heard from him. Oh yeah, I didn't ask if he wanted to sell the component either!

Hu
 
ShootingArts said:
When somebody owed me money with no intention of paying I've waited until they had money out sometimes and then made the snatch. Hard for them to argue, they know they owe you the money. They don't want a big conversation about a bad debt in front of the people they are dealing with either. Catching somebody posting up and before a set starts is a fine time for this.

Another major chuckle, a man had a racing component I needed that was rarer than hen's teeth, worth $250 or $300 but I had been hunting one for months with no luck. He had owed me sixty dollars for several years on another deal. When I grabbed the component he wasn't there and I got it from his brother-in-law. I told the in-law that Carl and I were even on the last deal or he could come hunt me up for the difference. Never heard from him. Oh yeah, I didn't ask if he wanted to sell the component either!

Hu
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I had envisioned something like this. Perhaps a missing cue followed up by Turd emailing Joey that he has suddenly decided he doesn't owe the $100 any more.
 
By the way, I have loaned friends cash many many times. I always insist on collateral that could be sold for more than the loan.

It's funny when they whine and refuse to give collateral. That's when you know you would have been stiffed.
 
TurdFerguson said:
This fellow presented himself as a professional, and was playing in the professional event in Las Vegas, when he asked to borrow $100 US.

I said, "how do I know I will get it back"

He said " I give you my word as a professional and a man"

I have numerous emails showing he acknowledges he owes the money, but won't pay, and it "will get to me". I will be happy to post these emails from Joey. He has my address, and PayPal account.

I gave him the benefit of the doubt, but keep seeing him playing in events and online challenge matches, the last against Frankie Hernandez. These cost money. He is CHOOSING to not pay me. Not acceptable.

He works at The House of Lords, as there house pro. Correspondence will be made there as of next week. If this fellow has any friends, perhaps you would take over the loan for him, and send me my money. Note, this is not a gambling debt, but a face to face "I need the money" from Joey.

He has one week to pay me, or I will start a campaign to make sure everyone knows about his deceit, and the fact that his word means nothing.

C'mon Joey be a man, and stick by your word. Work this out.
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You need to learn PPPP (Professional Pool Players' Parlance).

Whenever pool players ask you for a loan, they aren't really asking you to "loan" them anything...they are asking you to GIVE it to them. It's their way of soliciting sponsorship. You and I, as a gullible hacks, are supposed to pee our pants with joy over the honor of actually being asked by a professional pool player for sponsorship. Then, if we accept our roles as sponsors (by never asking for our money back), our sponsored professional just might give us a nod in front of our friends as we pass in the hallway of the Riviera. :cool:

Now, doesn't that make you feel better? :D

Roger
 
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