John Shmidt's got action

john schmidt said:
fair enough . ill be clear . hes what ill do .
ill take 5000 to play. if i have to go through the mud again with this guy than 5 dimes might not be worth it.

anyway all you guys out there that like dannys end of it could pay the 5 dimes and then bet 20 dimes on the side and watch him rob me.

if i get guaranteed money ill play tommorrow and if i dont no biggie i just wont have to deal with him and ill go play around of golf,fire up the dirt bike and see you guys at the derby with no hard feelings.

he wants to play i dont because im scared but if someone wants to outsmart me and give me 5000 so they can bet on the side and make a score i completely understand and will play in victorville tommorrow.

Thanks for the holiday laugh. The key word in your statement is 'take' - I should have expected no less and shouldn't be surprised you don't want to earn anything, a big reason why pool never gets anywhere. Next thing you know John will come out with his own line of homemade ball polishers made from empty paint buckets and think people will buy them for an obscene amount of money just because Mr. 400 himself made them in his basement.

This thread has turned into just another of page after page of wasted space and wasted air. Hopefully John won't post in this thread anymore and save some of the air on this planet.

Good luck on the dirt bike. Let us know when you have perfected the backflip.
 
Fatboy said:
All I know is if I needed the $$$ and knew I could win I would fade someones mouth for a weekend to get paid, I have thick enough skin to fade anyones mouth-Danny aint going to beat anyone up.


Having said that, thats me not John. I respect JS for his opinion and not wanting to play. New business this is a dead horse...

Well said, Fatboy!!!!!!!!!
 
watchez said:
Thanks for the holiday laugh. The key word in your statement is 'take' - I should have expected no less and shouldn't be surprised you don't want to earn anything, a big reason why pool never gets anywhere. Next thing you know John will come out with his own line of homemade ball polishers made from empty paint buckets and think people will buy them for an obscene amount of money just because Mr. 400 himself made them in his basement.

This thread has turned into just another of page after page of wasted space and wasted air. Hopefully John won't post in this thread anymore and save some of the air on this planet.

Good luck on the dirt bike. Let us know when you have perfected the backflip.
. you have a right to think im a schmuck, its a free world. its just im trying to make money and i think someone might call my bluff and make me play.whats the wrong in that.by the way im working on the backflip ill let you know when i got it down pat.
youve always hated on me watchez and thats cool. my dad told me long ago if everybody likes you your probably not that good.
happy holidays and say hi to justin for me.
 
I met you in San Antonio afew years back. John You are a top player and will always get knocked. You will be fine. It is not easy being easy.
 
Thanks

JB Cases said:
LOL so true. And if this happened and went viral that might cause TAR to BLOW UP. Just imagine if Harriman and Schmidt were going off on YouTube for months and they had a huge - HUGE amount of people following it who could really care less about pool - what it there were like 200,000 people watching every video and then like ten thousand of them bought the PPV?

OMG this is the IDEA bar none. Get this shit out of the mud and go to where the masses are.

The beauty of this is that it doesn't have to be contrived. The feud is real and if John doesn't get ate by a goat then they could have a shot to make some real money.

My point exactly. People who don't play pool may watch. People love to watch other people talk shit to each other. I would watch 2 chess players (ping pong whatever) go at it if I knew they hated each other.
 
john schmidt said:
. you have a right to think im a schmuck, its a free world. its just im trying to make money and i think someone might call my bluff and make me play.whats the wrong in that.by the way im working on the backflip ill let you know when i got it down pat.
youve always hated on me watchez and thats cool. my dad told me long ago if everybody likes you your probably not that good.
happy holidays and say hi to justin for me.
Nothing against you. I could go back and look but I am pretty sure I was on your side before - with Quintan and maybe times other than that. Hell I bet on you versus Kirkwood. Didn't you get my jelly check in the mail? :)
But as we are not friends, I have to judge you on an instance by instance basis. If you seriously think that someone is going to pay you $5000 to play pool as an appearance fee then you need to re-evaluate what the pool world is going to give you in life. You want pool to move forward, it is going to take baby steps and unfortunately $5K appearance fees are giant steps as things sit right now. Giant steps fail in the pool world - look at the IPT, look at the million dollar tournament.
 
hi

watchez said:
Nothing against you. I could go back and look but I am pretty sure I was on your side before - with Quintan and maybe times other than that. Hell I bet on you versus Kirkwood. Didn't you get my jelly check in the mail? :)
But as we are not friends, I have to judge you on an instance by instance basis. If you seriously think that someone is going to pay you $5000 to play pool as an appearance fee then you need to re-evaluate what the pool world is going to give you in life. You want pool to move forward, it is going to take baby steps and unfortunately $5K appearance fees are giant steps as things sit right now. Giant steps fail in the pool world - look at the IPT, look at the million dollar tournament.
many people are going to watch this match.
i dont expect the money to come from one person.
there is hundreds who want to see me lose and think dannys got the best of it.
hell danny might give 1000 himself he wants to play so bad.

anyway i know 5000 is a little steep but if im going to play him and let alot of people watch then i want 5000.
im not asking for 20,000 .
the reason poolplayers never get anything anyway is because most of them are to stupid and broke to demand enough to make things worth their while.

if 5000 cant be raised then the match is not worth having anyway.

again if danny would have just said good shootin john at end of last match i would have played already.

since he wanted to be a pain well ill be one too.

but again 5000 i will play or i will donate 5000 of my own to charity .ill put that in writing by the way
 
shankster8 said:
I am sorry if this post rubs anyone the wrong way, and if I have erred in any details, please advise me so I might correct things/apologize. I am egged on, however, by TAR's avoidance of my question as to the sincerity of Schmidt in disrupting his last match with Harriman.

I'll point out one error for you, so you can sleep better at night. You asked TAR a question, they answered it. Maybe it's time you drop them from your argument.
 
I haven't read the entire thread.

From what I can ascertain, it seems that those with money are given a huge amount of respect in today's pool world.

Pool players, those who perform for an audience, don't seem to garner any respect anymore. Rather, it is those who fund happenings, i.e., stakehorses, backers, and others, who seem to have respect from today's pool folk.

I happen to still respect the pool player, like John Schmidt, Danny Harriman, et al. After all, without the pool players, there won't be a show. Maybe they should have an action challenge match with the stakehorses and backers. I wonder how much the pool public would enjoy seeing them battle it out on a field of green.
 
shankster8 said:
Well that's too bad. I thought the match was on. But I don't blame Schmidt for ducking if he and his stakehorse think Harriman is too strong. I see this appearance fee as just being a stumbling block intended to derail the rematch.

You know, I keep hearing impuning statements directed at Harriman, but I'm still curious about whether there is any truth to Harriman's assertion that Schmidt's arguments, during the last match, over previously established jump cue rules, had no merit, and that the 10 minute argument that ensued was intended solely to prevent Harriman from capturing his victory, he was ahead 9-8. IMO, if Schmidt did pull a chickensh*t move like that, he's the one that should be stigmatized. He is the one that people should avoid playing. Is anyone who was there willing to clear this up? Harriman says to ask the TAR people if they believe John was sincere in disrupting the ordliness of that match. I asked, but TAR avoided the question, and Deadpoked scolded me for stirring sh*t.

Here's something to consider: How do you think Schmidt would have reacted if Harriman pulled that on Schmidt when Victory was in Schmidt's hands? My guess is he'd be a little pissed - and act just like Harriman. IMO if Schmidt and his stakehorse know they avoided a second loss to Harriman, only as a result of a chickensh*t ploy, and they know that Harriman is pissed, and has been practicing steady to right things, there is little wonder about what is happening here.

Finally, let me dispell a little more BS, as I see things. Earlier in this thread I read Schmidt's opinion that his and Harriman's game was even, but he later lamented that Hariman has been practicing 10 times as much as he has. Well it sounds to me like Harriman's game isn't even any more, and Schmidt knows it. I also read that Harriman sleeps on his friends couch four feet from a pool table, and has no girlfriend, and no life. Yet Harriman says he's been remodling his home, like Schmidt has, and has a girlfriend, like Schmidt has. And, what's Schmidt saying about Harriman sleeping beneath a picture of Schmidt, and throwing darts at the picture? Sounds like either Schmidt shares a bedroom in the same house, and is privy to all this juicy gossip, or he is talking out his a*s. Either way he won't play pool with the man again, $10k and duct tape notwithstanding.

I am sorry if this post rubs anyone the wrong way, and if I have erred in any details, please advise me so I might correct things/apologize. I am egged on, however, by TAR's avoidance of my question as to the sincerity of Schmidt in disrupting his last match with Harriman. TAR could have unequivocably backed Schmidt - which they did not. That speaks loudly to me. So again, if anyone was witness to Schmit's disrupting the match when victory was at hand for Harriman, please help clear this matter up.
I dont know what John was thinking in that spot. Why don't you simply ask him?

I was busy running the stream and Chad was either in the booth or working the door. When guys have questions about things we expect them to work it out amongst themselves. If they need someone to watch a hit we have someone watch the hit. We can't afford to pay a referee and his expenses just in case two professional players cant get through a match without supervision.

The disagreement was a hell of a lot more civilized and short in duration than many I have seen. As I recall John picked up a jump cue, Danny said something to him, they talked sh!t to one another for a few minutes I think Danny asked me about jump cues in the one pocket and I had no clue at all because they had said they worked all the details out between them (out of the hundreds of things we worry about for one of these things using jump cues in one hole is not one of them) and John put down the jump cue and play continued. If I knew for sure what they had agreed upon I certainly would have said something one way or the other. I assumed Danny was correct but because I didnt know for sure I told them basically "You guys know what you agreed to figure it out"

I don't know if it was a move on John's part. Ask him.

To answer your question very clearly : I do not know what John or Danny were thinking then , now or ever. I am not a mind reader.
 
watchez said:
Nothing against you. I could go back and look but I am pretty sure I was on your side before - with Quintan and maybe times other than that. Hell I bet on you versus Kirkwood. Didn't you get my jelly check in the mail? :)
But as we are not friends, I have to judge you on an instance by instance basis. If you seriously think that someone is going to pay you $5000 to play pool as an appearance fee then you need to re-evaluate what the pool world is going to give you in life. You want pool to move forward, it is going to take baby steps and unfortunately $5K appearance fees are giant steps as things sit right now. Giant steps fail in the pool world - look at the IPT, look at the million dollar tournament.

I had to pay lil Jon a $1000 dollar show up money 1 to play Gary A. a $6000 dollar set in Houma...there was a guy that loved lil Jon's game & wanted to stake him but wanted to do it in Houma..Lil Jon knew it was a tough game & said he's take a free shot in Hattisburg but to come to Houma knowing he was the underdog..He'd play his heart out but needed a jelly....I loved Gary in the spot so agreed...It was like putting odds on the money & would have did the same in Hattisburg...I know it's a lil different but it does happen...I can understand a player not wanting to put his heart & soul into a tough match & not get any compensation at all...Even the loser in a boxing match gets paid even tho he lost..$5000 might be a lil out of line but maybe $1000 unless it's at John's home court.
 
hi

the thing that makes me sick about all this is jcin and chad are good guys.
trying to do their best to make it.
they have treated me great and i know if i played this match it would help them ,me and the viewers would have fun too.

im sorry but you can thank danny for the fact that me and really nobody wants to play him.
 
Just to inject a little sunshine in this thread I thought some TAR Spam would fit nicely :D

For those who havent heard Scott Frost will be in the commentary booth for the Owen/Chohan one pocket. We will have 3 of the best one pocket players on earth on the same stream. It all kicks off this Sunday night at 7PM Eastern

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The next Friday is the 2nd Annual $3000 Ring Game Tournament at Shooters. Maybe if we are lucky there will be another controversy....or someone will fly in off the top rope and clothes line Meatball as he unleashes the MeatThunder (TM). :D

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Who is playing in the ring game and how soon before DVDs are ready? I would love to watch the live stream, but with three kids it is nearly impossible.

As for Danny and John, I have met them both (albeit briefly) and both seem like good guys. I would love to see a third go round, but John has to do what he feels is best.
 
Danny!!

While I've never seen either of you play in person, you have my support here Danny!!! I just really like your game sir, I wish you luck!!!
 
metallicane said:
Who is playing in the ring game and how soon before DVDs are ready? I would love to watch the live stream, but with three kids it is nearly impossible.

As for Danny and John, I have met them both (albeit briefly) and both seem like good guys. I would love to see a third go round, but John has to do what he feels is best.
I dont have all the names but here are a few I know of:

Scott Frost
David Matlock
Shane Van Boening
Joey Gray
Mike "Meatball" Banks Jr.
Jesse Bowman

Watchez posted that he spoke with Dan Tull of Shooters and Dan told him there were 17 paid with more to come. Last year there were some pretty good players who walked in last minute. I will see if we can get a full list.

As for the DVD's. :D

We are about 6 months behind on getting DVD's out. If something epic happens then they will be out sooner rather than later.
 
JCIN said:
Just to inject a little sunshine in this thread I thought some TAR Spam would fit nicely :D

For those who havent heard Scott Frost will be in the commentary booth for the Owen/Chohan one pocket. We will have 3 of the best one pocket players on earth on the same stream. It all kicks off this Sunday night at 7PM Eastern

3046395617_1b99d44436_o.jpg



The next Friday is the 2nd Annual $3000 Ring Game Tournament at Shooters. Maybe if we are lucky there will be another controversy....or someone will fly in off the top rope and clothes line Meatball as he unleashes the MeatThunder (TM). :D

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Great Post JCIN!

For those of you that don't realize it, the TAR guys spend allot of money to travel and put on these events. They need guys like you and I to log in and buy the feed to cover their expenses.

Everyone who can should log in and watch these matches! You never know, I have been known to put up some really good deals to the guys in the chat section during these matches! Log in and watch for a good deal!


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