John Shmidt's got action

[JB Cases]

Funny that Dennis doesn't want any part of Alex. And I guess Shane isn't jumping on Dennis's offer either. That surprises me. I would think Shane would be a favorite over Dennis in a long set.

As for the Harriman/Schmidt feud well beefs happen in sports. There have been many matchups and rivalries fueled by mutual dislike. This is the sort of thing that could bring more fans to the table but I wouldn't expect the participants to do it just to play to the crowd. Look at professional wrestling, public fighting never did anything for their revenue and turned all the fans off.

Ah well, this is going to go down in pool history as an unfinished fight.

 

[JCIN]

Funny that Dennis doesn't want any part of Alex.

You have enough experience to know that it does not really matter whether or not a player wants to play particular player. It is who they can get staked to play.

My point is that those games are viable because the money is there.

I am quite sure Dennis Hatch would get up and fire at Alex if you want to put him in.

 

[corvette1340]

You have enough experience to know that it does not really matter whether or not a player wants to play particular player. It is who they can get staked to play.

My point is that those games are viable because the money is there.

I am quite sure Dennis Hatch would get up and fire at Alex if you want to put him in.

hell, I'll get up and fire at Alex if someone will put me in, lol.

 

[corvette1340]

I move for a new all around opponent, I mean wow I am flying to his hometown on his home table, how much easier or more convenient for him could it be? John is bowing out of this, he's winner so has gone to dinner indefinitely. John mentioned Jason Kirkwood maybe playing - I'm all for it, it will however be an all around format, this offer is still open as John has lost his nerve to play. I enjoy competing against players I don't like, I was unaware that John was so argumentative but now I am ready whenever he is. I never enjoy competing against my friends in a tough long format, I like a little heated battle.
Interesting that John said he would rather give Kirkwood a rematch - Jason is a great player and capable of beating John but has not. If I were John I would duck me also cause I am playing well right now. I knew he would defeat me in the ten ball the last time we played cause I was still upset from our argument that he started in the One Pocket at 9-8. I have said this before but John is not a true champ in my book, I realize he does not like me and that he is upset at the state of men's Professional pool which makes him a touch bitter. But it looks like I have a bit more fight in me than him, I guess Chris Bartrum was right.

I understand where I stand with the Tar people also, after I won the first time against John they posted him all over there website and very little of me.
When John lost they were extremeley quick about giving him a rematch even though there was interest in other matches, Now that I am ready It looks like they are slow to react but I could be wrong. Maybe if enough people on this forum post to Tar or Justin he will see the interest and try and politic John to play. The ball is in az's court, from what I understand the last match between John and I only got maybe 50 some viewers. Which is partly cause Efren and John sheduled some live stream match that I heard had question marks all over it, either way the appearence fee for me to show up and play John is very negotiable.
Sincerely, Danny

Ahhhh, and we have ourselves a loser in the first ever Quiet Game Action Challenge. Way to wait him out John. Let's play some golf.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

It's too bad we won't see a match-up. I love watching these two great players go at it. Since John can't talk Danny into an all-around that includes golf.... and Danny can't talk John into an all-around that includes darts... maybe they'll agree to a dance-off???

p.s. The only reason John is the girl is because I know him well enough to know he'll laugh at it.

Cha-cha-cha....

 

[Marop]

It's too bad we won't see a match-up. I love watching these two great players go at it. Since John can't talk Danny into an all-around that includes golf.... and Danny can't talk John into an all-around that includes darts... maybe they'll agree to a dance-off???

p.s. The only reason John is the girl is because I know him well enough to know he'll laugh at it.

Cha-cha-cha....

Now thats funny

 

[SpiderWebComm]

Marop - you know you gotta dig him with that By the way, your recent 14.1 vids have me practicing hard. I can't beat your high run but I'm trying to join the over-50 club on video.

 

[Marop]

Marop - you know you gotta dig him with that By the way, your recent 14.1 vids have me practicing hard. I can't beat your high run but I'm trying to join the over-50 club on video.

Yeah, he will get a kick out of it, especially coming from you. You know John he loves a good joke...

 

[JB Cases]

You have enough experience to know that it does not really matter whether or not a player wants to play particular player. It is who they can get staked to play.

My point is that those games are viable because the money is there.

I am quite sure Dennis Hatch would get up and fire at Alex if you want to put him in.

Sure I understand that. I thought that Shane would bet his own though or at least had backing enough to go head to head with any other American player.

So to rephrase that to include backers - I can't believe that Shane's backers aren't jumping aon Dennis' action.

I can't see why backers wouldn't like to put their money up against Alex.

I don't want to back players who won't bet their own. I don't treat players like horses or dogs and expect them to get up and run on command. I can count on one hand the times I have fully backed a set. I figure that if the player is betting his own then he has a personal stake in the outcome. And this isn't about the possibility of business either, it's simply a matter of pride.

I understand that any player will "take a shot" if they are being backed. But that's not the player I want. I want the player that truly thinks they can win and being willing to back themselves shows me that competitiveness.

Even so though I can't believe that no other backer in the USA has a horse to put up against Dennis if there is a standing offer. Kind of a bummer. I think a Shane - Dennis match would be good.

Anyway sounds like you guys got your hands full arranging these things and I am sure you will come with some good ones. Sounds really exciting to be in the center trying to get these things worked out. In years to come you two will really be the Don Kings of pool - meant in a good way

 

[JCIN]

Sure I understand that. I thought that Shane would bet his own though or at least had backing enough to go head to head with any other American player.

So to rephrase that to include backers - I can't believe that Shane's backers aren't jumping aon Dennis' action.

I can't see why backers wouldn't like to put their money up against Alex.

I don't want to back players who won't bet their own. I don't treat players like horses or dogs and expect them to get up and run on command. I can count on one hand the times I have fully backed a set. I figure that if the player is betting his own then he has a personal stake in the outcome. And this isn't about the possibility of business either, it's simply a matter of pride.

I understand that any player will "take a shot" if they are being backed. But that's not the player I want. I want the player that truly thinks they can win and being willing to back themselves shows me that competitiveness.

Even so though I can't believe that no other backer in the USA has a horse to put up against Dennis if there is a standing offer. Kind of a bummer. I think a Shane - Dennis match would be good.

Anyway sounds like you guys got your hands full arranging these things and I am sure you will come with some good ones. Sounds really exciting to be in the center trying to get these things worked out. In years to come you two will really be the Don Kings of pool - meant in a good way

Shane may be interested in playing Dennis, he has not ruled it out.

It would not surprise me in the least to see Dennis and Shane do something in the future. Like all of these matches the stars just have to align.

There is one guy who we are pretty certain has the stake and is willing to play Alex. No I wont say who it is. :grin-devilish:

 

[Fatboy]

Any word on that tournament...The place I want to do the tournament has a private room with a diamond...Window for viewers...would be a great place for a TAR match-up

concrete pours tomarrow or wed, and were going to do alot with it. It will be done by mid january so after the Derby we get something going. the reason it will work is it wont cost anything to use it and we have as much time as we like, there are other advantages too. It will work good.

 

[JamisonNeu]

I remember our conversation about this very topic John. While we were in Valley Forge you told me that you would give Danny a rematch if he gave you one for the time he bested you... I spoke with Danny before you two ever played, I am feeling betrayed by you and your partners in crime.

I told Danny you said you would give him a rematch if he happend to lose this time. That is one of the only reasons he even decided to play against you again. Not to mention before ever even having a new competition set up against someone else.

You tricked us and it's a pretty bold move in such a small business...are they going to trick me when I try and advertise with them...I think you guys might have just rolled a ball in front of your opponents hole. WATCH THESE GUYS EVERYONE THEY LIKE TO PLAY TRICKS ON PEOPLE!

 

[john schmidt]

hi

I remember our conversation about this very topic John. While we were in Valley Forge you told me that you would give Danny a rematch if he gave you one for the time he bested you... I spoke with Danny before you two ever played, I am feeling betrayed by you and your partners in crime.

I told Danny you said you would give him a rematch if he happend to lose this time. That is one of the only reasons he even decided to play against you again. Not to mention before ever even having a new competition set up against someone else.

You tricked us and it's a pretty bold move in such a small business...are they going to trick me when I try and advertise with them...I think you guys might have just rolled a ball in front of your opponents hole. WATCH THESE GUYS EVERYONE THEY LIKE TO PLAY TRICKS ON PEOPLE!

well if this means im going to have to live without your respect ,admiration ,friendship and support thats something im going to just have to muster up the courage to live with.now please quit bothering me.

 

[Mainplayer]

I was around Hatch this past weekend. He said he would like to play just about anybody in ten ball for almost anything. He plays strong and I would like to see him play someone soon.

 

[gpeezy]

I was around Hatch this past weekend. He said he would like to play just about anybody in ten ball for almost anything. He plays strong and I would like to see him play someone soon.

I would love to see Dennis in a TAR match up. Watchez also mentioned Danny playing Shannon Daulton an all round. Shannon is obviously hittin em good right now so he would be worth watching.

 

[DeadPoked]

I was around Hatch this past weekend. He said he would like to play just about anybody in ten ball for almost anything. He plays strong and I would like to see him play someone soon.

SVB vs Hatch... that would be a awesome match to sweat. Talk about firepower.

 

[JCIN]

I remember our conversation about this very topic John. While we were in Valley Forge you told me that you would give Danny a rematch if he gave you one for the time he bested you... I spoke with Danny before you two ever played, I am feeling betrayed by you and your partners in crime.

I told Danny you said you would give him a rematch if he happend to lose this time. That is one of the only reasons he even decided to play against you again. Not to mention before ever even having a new competition set up against someone else.

You tricked us and it's a pretty bold move in such a small business...are they going to trick me when I try and advertise with them...I think you guys might have just rolled a ball in front of your opponents hole. WATCH THESE GUYS EVERYONE THEY LIKE TO PLAY TRICKS ON PEOPLE!

I don't like your tone and back hand accusations. They are 100% BULLSH!T. It is funny to me that only now we are finding out that the whole second match happened because you were involved. Really ?

John wants nothing to do with Danny after the last match. We offered him $1000 up front (which Danny would have gotten too) to get the match to go. He said "No". You have absolutely no idea what we do or how we do it so quit casting aspersions.

You have no idea what in the hell you are talking about and these BS accusations are baseless. Aren't you the guy that wanted someone to give him money to build a building, buy camera gear, and let you practice trick shots for YEARS so you could make a trick shot video?

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=105112

I tried to give you some guidance and help in that thread but you didn't like what I had to say. Still a little salty Jamison ? Try to get a little shot in when you see the opportunity ?

You have never done business with us. If you question our integrity you better have more to back it up than some crazy azz ramblings.

 

[dainese919]

i really am surprised to hear you say this danny. pretty much all you do is make excuses actually.

ive told you this before and i know you wont listen, but here goes again, even if we assume EVERY word of yours is true, well, you are saying you let john into your head and that's why he beat you. in other words, you cracked...... to put it even another way, if this was efren (or any true champion) in this match, he would have said to himself after the loss "damn, i messed up, i let him get to me, maybe he was a bit (or even a lot?) out of line, but i let him get to me." that is what a true champion would do, not come online and start telling everybody he lost because the other guy started an argument. you cracked and through my experinence i bet you know that you cracked too, but we try to find another outlet.... to blame ourselves would be too hard.

you probably missed a ball or made a crucially bad shot that game, and you are the only one to blame for that.

again, i say all that assuming everything you said was true, ie...... "john got out of line and he's not a gentleman etc" ok, well, you still messed up danny.

very well put. I agreed with you totally~
I watched the dvds and know what Danny was telling is mostly truth regarding John's jump shot.
BUT
a true champ would just swallow the loss and move on.
most conversation of the incident was recroded on the TAR dvd, which people who really cares can easiliy go watch it and decide themselves.
people who doesn't care is just that- they dont care~


btw.. the match dvds were really intense and great for one-hole lovers, highly recommended~

 

[jay helfert]

Boy, I'm gone for a minute and all Hell breaks loose! :smile:

I'd love to see John and Danny play a third match to end their trilogy. But it takes two willing participants plus maybe a couple of willing backers to make it happen. All this woofing on here is just that, WOOFING! Nothing worse than I've heard a million times before in a poolroom. In fact I like the idea of a grudge match, that just makes it a little more interesting for all the sweators out there.

Many of you may not know this, but when Fats played Willie there was no love lost between the two. The animosity between them played well on television. Willie only began to thaw toward Fats when he saw the rivalry as a way to make some healthy pay checks. Now if John and Danny both could see a nice bottom line, they might play one more time.

As far as ref'ing the match, that's no problem for me, just pay me my usual fee :smile:. Actually I like the way they do it in the Philippines, the winner gives the ref 5% of his win for handling the match.

I happen to like and get along with both Danny and John, and don't foresee any problem if I were to referee their next match. We would get ALL the rules straight before the first ball is hit. And by the way, Bill Stock would also make an excellent ref for any match. Both players could feel quite comfortable with him too.

 

[ugotactionTX]

Now we're getting somewhere....

Come on John.... tell us how you really feel:grin:

~

well if this means im going to have to live without your respect ,admiration ,friendship and support thats something im going to just have to muster up the courage to live with.now please quit bothering me.