johnny archer

There's no doubt about how well Johnny has played for years. He has played everywhere and beat almost everyone. The way pool is going and wat its turning into, you cant blame someone for tryin to get the most out of their money. Everyone wants some kind of advantage or they dont play. I miss the days where a fair game was made and whoever played the best won. Thats why i enjoy watching Bartram play so much, i think he's a true pool player and a gambler. If there were more people like him maybe pool wouldnt be in the shape it's in.
 
I agree

mikeyfrost said:
Johnny likes 4" tight pockets, thats a fact jack. He's worked tirelessly at his game for so many years and he's seen players progress. There are so many guys that can make 4.5" pockets seem like buckets(they're great players), it's just Johnny wants to know that if he gets beat it is by a better player on that day. We all cringe when a guy runs out and every ball wipes its feet on the way in, or someone wins because a table is leaking, just take that out of the equation. I've never seen a table with 4" pockets personally, I just hear people talk about how they will kick your butt and make you feel like you have never played before if you arent in dead punch. Can't help it if Johnny wants people to have to play some pool to win not just be a great breaker or shot maker. I'd never try it if I was a player who didnt have something similar to practice on for a month or two though.

If we are being real though, there has to be easier action than Archer out there. If you want to play him just to play him go to an exhibition and hit the sign up sheet early. If you want to win money, well.....GOOD LUCK!
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The best of the best should play under the toughest conditions. Johnny will play Shane as long as the pockets are super tight. They are fighting over pocket size not his home table.

When you play on tables this tight the person with the best fundamentals and focus should win. Johnny feels like this is his strentgh and he is just playing to it. Shane pockets super clean and should not fear pockets this small, however I think he is concerned it will take away from his superior break. They are both just trying to protect their money. Ain't nothing wrong with that.
 
I've heard stories of Johnny being in action when he travels, so methinks the op's comment is inaccurate...

Second, the table and pockets are part of the negotiation....some people are monsters on a barbox with buckets, but put them on a 9 with tight pockets, and they are easy money....if he likes tight pockets, then I can see why this is part of his gamble....

Third, a true champion IMHO can play any game on any table at a high level....but that does not mean they can take any person at any game on any table....
 
bfdlad said:
That match has been talked about for a while. I don't know everything but I think Archer does not want to play on buckets. I think he wants the conditions to be very hard with very tight pockets. People are going to talk all kinds of stuff about this match up. It would be great if it ever happens with the top 2 american players of today.
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I think Johnny could make SVB hate pool if they played on 4' pockets...I've seen JA play on little bitty pockets, and he plays the same as he would on any table. If you take away 1/5 of most people's target area, they play a little worse....Johnny doesn't.
 
GMAC said:
The best of the best should play under the toughest conditions. Johnny will play Shane as long as the pockets are super tight. They are fighting over pocket size not his home table.
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Incorrect. The condition was definitely play close to home. He as said that he has no interest in travelling to play Shane nor to play him on a Diamond.

I am in no way saying that there is anything wrong with this. Johnny owns a business and is responsible for ensuring its viability. I know if I owned a room and knew my business might make a few extra thousand for hosting a match that I was involved in, I certainly would not play it anywhere else.

It is also hard for someone to fault Shane for not going into arguably the best American player's home room and play on his personal table with his entire home crowd betting on him ... of course, Shane could probably print his own money if he won.
 
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And what's wrong with that? I only play on a 2 1/2 X 5 at the Quick Mart. Only with APA 3's or worse, and only on Thursdays. And if my white socks with the blue NIKE swooshes are dirty, you're gonna have to wait for the next load.
 
crawfish said:
And what's wrong with that? I only play on a 2 1/2 X 5 at the Quick Mart. Only with APA 3's or worse, and only on Thursdays. And if my white socks with the blue NIKE swooshes are dirty, you're gonna have to wait for the next load.
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That sounds McNitty :D
 
crawfish said:
Called many things in my life, from a$$hole to MF. But "nit" ain't one of 'em.

Use that for your sig line.
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McNitty would bet all you could stand son. Nevermind you're right he's a nit, never in action, won't bet a quarter he's white. Good post, I swear Nit is the second worst "N" word in the english language.
 
the420trooper said:
I think Johnny could make SVB hate pool if they played on 4' pockets...I've seen JA play on little bitty pockets, and he plays the same as he would on any table. If you take away 1/5 of most people's target area, they play a little worse....Johnny doesn't.
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you got that right.and if they played9ball johnny would really make him hate pool.
 
I think I heard of the SVB vs JA match when SVB was near - SVB walked into the hall (my local hall) saw the table JA wanted to play on and said "No thanks".

The table is as nasty as it comes for rails and pockets - the felt just needs to be given some old school lovin.

Dont know if it was the state of the felt or the pockets - but SVB passed.
 
Voodoo Daddy said:
Cant blame anyone for wanting home cookin' but all that rack your own, raise the table 2.256 ", put the two and the five in the rear positions, only use master chalk in pink is weak IMO. Seen Archer gamble in a few spots so that guy got his wire crossed.
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6'

Well I am 6'3 and I am guessing that im 6'4 with shoes. So when a table is low i sure as hell notice, and by the way the conditions that i play in can make as big of a difference as the 6 or the 7 ball in my opinion.

If you ever wanna learn something about pool for once in your life shoot me a pm. Have a nice day (:
 
They will play, this year I think. It dosent have to be at JA's room, just a GC with 4" pockets, preferably in the carloinas or Ga.

I might not know much but I know ALOT about this topic.

Shane used to perfer Daimonds alot over GC's now he is more flexable. He liked my GC 5, the pocket size and schedual is the problem, they both travel ALOT, one of the 2 guys dosent want to match up at a tournment but just a match in a room-less fan fair, more pool. Its not about attention-its about earning a living. not a hobbie for either of them.
 
I think Johnny has earned the right to dictate what he will and will not do. I presume he has more to deal with in his life than just playing pool. After all, he is a business man now.
 
I just had the honor of playing Johnny a short race and all I can say is that I will challenge Johnny to a pie eating contest any day. :)
 
> This is all I have to say about the situation. If I was a 4 time World Champion,with 200 ball runs under my belt along with a documented 15 rack run,I wouldn't care if I had to go to someone's house,their home poolroom or the worst neighborhood in America,no living human would be barred,gaff table or not. That's just me. Tommy D.
 
I think Johnny is right to demand certain conditions. If you wanna beat me, come to me. After all, he doesn't have anything to prove to anyone.
 
Fatboy said:
...they both travel ALOT, one of the 2 guys dosent want to match up at a tournment but just a match in a room-less fan fair, more pool. Its not about attention-its about earning a living. not a hobbie for either of them.
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I understand that 1000 percent. When you travel to a tournament, you should put all of your energies in competing in the tournament. When you try to do too many other activites while at the tournament, your tournament play will definitely suffer. Most of the top players today will make sure they go to bed early, get plenty of sleep, eat well, and take care of their bodies, so that when they play in the tournament, they are feeling good.

I also can see how it would be much more comfortable to have them play in a room with less fan fare and more pool. Why dance like monkeys for the audience? Playing each other in the solitude of a quiet pool room, with good equipment, will allow each player to be the best that they can be.

Makes perfect sense to me! :)
 
Look at it like the 3 point line in college basketball. The players got better so they moved the line farther from the basket, now you have to be able to shoot better to make the ball.

Guess what, poolplayers are getting better. We're talking top pros not short stops. You don't see PBA bowlers throwing on league pattern pins do you? You know why that is, that makes it a coin flip. A pure crap shoot makes it less about pool and more about the other things that shouldnt determine the winner of a match.

We all got to see a good example the last few days. What if Bartrum was playing these pros on a table with 4" pockets, I'll tell you what I guarantee those matches would have turned out different. CB plays 99% perfect for long periods of time on the equipment of his choice. Even pro cut diamonds have some extra fluff to them, we all know that. Now play on a table tight enough where you may normally fire at a ball, but on this table you have to play a safety. That's pool. It wont be a run out show or break contest, it will be a chess game at the highest level. JA doesnt have the nuts against SVB but what JA does have is more experience. I'd happily bet on JA if this went off because when you cant fire every ball in and have to put some thought to your entire game no one on the planet is gonna out move JA. OK I think I can lay this topic to bed in my own head now.
 
mikeyfrost said:
Look at it like the 3 point line in college basketball. The players got better so they moved the line farther from the basket, now you have to be able to shoot better to make the ball.

Guess what, poolplayers are getting better. We're talking top pros not short stops. You don't see PBA bowlers throwing on league pattern pins do you? You know why that is, that makes it a coin flip. A pure crap shoot makes it less about pool and more about the other things that shouldnt determine the winner of a match.

We all got to see a good example the last few days. What if Bartrum was playing these pros on a table with 4" pockets, I'll tell you what I guarantee those matches would have turned out different. CB plays 99% perfect for long periods of time on the equipment of his choice. Even pro cut diamonds have some extra fluff to them, we all know that. Now play on a table tight enough where you may normally fire at a ball, but on this table you have to play a safety. That's pool. It wont be a run out show or break contest, it will be a chess game at the highest level. JA doesnt have the nuts against SVB but what JA does have is more experience. I'd happily bet on JA if this went off because when you cant fire every ball in and have to put some thought to your entire game no one on the planet is gonna out move JA. OK I think I can lay this topic to bed in my own head now.
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Johnny will absolutely slow you, safe you into submission. And don't think he can't fire them in, either. You guys must not be thinking back into the 90's when EVERYBODY was nervous when JA walked into the room. Think he just forgot how to play?
 
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