Let's Talk About Shane's Gambling Problem . . .
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People talk about SVB because he's the only American in the spotlight in pool period, besides Jeanette. I was just making a point, I don't care if he gambles, but should it be talked about probably yes. He's in the spotlight.
I doubt he gets more then 3k a month from cuetec. I've dealt with a lot of pool companies on the sponsorship side and they don't give cash out to often.
And if SVB is so flush with cash it would only make sense when he has money matches he bets his own like 95% at least and not get staked. I mean he is one of the best in the world with an unmatched work ethic, so it makes sense to bet on what he can control(pool) , sense your betting on things you can't control(blackjack,dice,etc).
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Yeah, maybe but who says he was betting $500 chips? Things need to be kept in perspective.
I did not read the entire thread nor will I.
Let's make this topic die....
We all know all the pool players gamble... They gamble on the table, in the casino, who has the smallest dong... who has the biggest... who can run the fastest... who can hold breath longer... It's just what they know, period!
Some champions grow out of their heavy gambling stage and some will never will. It's just known fact!
Although I think making a below the belt jab about it on the air of stream was absolutely unprofessional and disgusting act.
In my opinion, Shane is one of the more financially responsible people out there. He doesn't owe anyone money, he doesn't ask to borrow, be staked. Most of all he puts himself in action and also side bets on it.
So why the big fuss when he has another outlet when he can absolutely afford it?
It's simply non of their business.
S. G.
Let's make this topic die....
We all know all the pool players gamble... They gamble on the table, in the casino, who has the smallest dong... who has the biggest... who can run the fastest... who can hold breath longer... It's just what they know, period!
Some champions grow out of their heavy gambling stage and some will never will. It's just known fact!
Although I think making a below the belt jab about it on the air of stream was absolutely unprofessional and disgusting act.
In my opinion, Shane is one of the more financially responsible people out there. He doesn't owe anyone money, he doesn't ask to borrow, be staked. Most of all he puts himself in action and also side bets on it.
So why the big fuss when he has another outlet when he can absolutely afford it?
It's simply non of their business.
S. G.
That makes good sense to me. I have heard he rarely betshis own in matches adn opinions differ with that. I would think he would want to bet his own. money is to thin and infrequent to have partners in this game. Backers raely survive and the players ca't live on it.
Craps? Archie didokay and that is about it. I tis intended to favor the house!
i suspect Shane is doing okay and needslittle advice from anyone streaming.
exactly my point SUNNY.
You can argue it till the cows come home, but people are going to talk about it. Lol
That's the way it is when you are the star. Maybe we should call tmz.com.
Steve, he told you that hundy is guaranteed by Joyner. So your money is safe...
I couldn't resist.
Jordan, biggest stiff on earth.
He's not inclined to tip. No one is.
He is however one of the few people on earth that can spend or blow 100k a day and never go broke.
Tiger is worse.
It happened at the Sands in Reno. I won't tell the whole story here, but we did get the casino (a small one with only one crap table) stuck pretty good where they had to refill the table with fresh money. We had them in a bad spot where they could only lose. If the dice got cold we would only quit. If they stayed hot we would nail them good. They knew this and found an excuse to shut down the game. TRUE STORY!
As for Shane he is a close friend of mine who I have given financial advice to on several occasions. This includes advising him in the purchase of a four unit property some time back. I want to see him do good and have some financial security in the future. I've seen too many pool players end up broke and basically destitute when they got older. Some very well known players of my generation ended up in pretty bad shape when they got old and weren't winning anymore and lost their sponsorship deals.
Shane is a young man who has done fairly well for himself over the last few years. He is not rich by any means and he must take care to insure his future after pool. It is one thing to have fun gambling with small amounts of money that you can afford to lose. It's entirely another to gamble with amounts that could endanger your present and future security.
I've seen the high costs that gambling addictions can lead to; broken marriages, lost homes, failed businesses and lives destroyed. If you don't think this can happen you are either uninformed or foolish. It can be casino gambling, horse racing, video poker, sports betting, live poker or can take many other forms. Bottom line, if gambling at something gets out of control, your entire life is in trouble. Gambling has destroyed many lives, just like alcohol and drugs. I could do an entire dialogue on the dangers and damage that the proliferation of casinos across America is doing. But that is not what this forum and this thread is about.
I care about Shane Van Boening! And we have talked about this very thing more than once. He is not just another pool player to me. He is someone whose well being is important to me. Just like in any work environment we develop closer relationships with certain people. I am very close to several pool players and other individuals in the sport who I care about. If I were to see any of them messing up I would speak to them about it. I would hope that they might do the same for me.
As a pool commentator I feel it is my job to discuss issues which may affect a player's performance. I will draw the line in certain situations which I feel may be inappropriate and not in others where I feel a mention is fair game. I have seen no less than Johnny Miller talking about a player who may have gotten a little too inebriated the night before, and how it affected his play the next day. And the personal (and sometimes very public) problems of many star athletes are fodder for commentators when they feel it affects how they perform. Tiger got chewed up by the media and the TV commentators for years about his private affairs. How all this affected his golf game was a hot topic for a long time, and still is to a certain degree.
I know from personal experience that a big loss the night before will play on your mind the next day, and affect you in whatever you have to do. I have lost small amounts playing poker many times (a few hundred) and I can shake it off. But when I've gone off for a big number (thousands), I'm not at my best for a day or two. It weighs on my mind for a while afterwards. It can have the same affect on a champion pool player, making it hard to focus and concentrate on the task at hand.
I won't make any excuses for my comments, even though I'd rather not get into it any more on here. Shane is my friend and he may not be happy about this thread and he may be unhappy with me as well. Regardless I hope for his sake he takes it all to heart and gives a lot of thought to what he is doing with his hard earned money. Nothing I've said here I wouldn't (and haven't) said to his face.
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Thanks Jay
Thank you Jay for verifying what I thought I remembered in your book......Prior to that, I had never heard of a Craps table being shut down either....
Like a favorite movie that I will watch over and over, I read your book repeatedly because I like the stories and your style of writing.....still waiting for Pool Wars Pt. 2 !!!
Thank you Jay for verifying what I thought I remembered in your book......Prior to that, I had never heard of a Craps table being shut down either....
Like a favorite movie that I will watch over and over, I read your book repeatedly because I like the stories and your style of writing.....still waiting for Pool Wars Pt. 2 !!!
Well said, Shane is lucky to have a friend that cares for his well being. On a separate note, your commentary was first rate.
Poker Ploy
What started as a SVB gambling thread became a gambling in general thread with one post in particular referring to poker as the only beatable game in the Casino.
While playing 3-6 hold em, I decided to cash in after being up sixty bucks. A five dollar tip to the dealer and I walk with fifty five bucks ahead. Without taking the readers through all the preliminary's in what followed, I will simply say, I met a few guys who all played together on the same table, and while they claimed to play straight up, they also confided to having a few signals.
After they explained why they did so, I had to ask myself if what they were doing was ethically ok? I concluded they were cheating. Now, knowing their secret, I will just have to wait until the situation presents itself, wherein, I will recognize the signal and either not participate or jump onboard against the Casino?
As for SVB gambling, I side with those who view it as his business and no one else's.
What started as a SVB gambling thread became a gambling in general thread with one post in particular referring to poker as the only beatable game in the Casino.
While playing 3-6 hold em, I decided to cash in after being up sixty bucks. A five dollar tip to the dealer and I walk with fifty five bucks ahead. Without taking the readers through all the preliminary's in what followed, I will simply say, I met a few guys who all played together on the same table, and while they claimed to play straight up, they also confided to having a few signals.
After they explained why they did so, I had to ask myself if what they were doing was ethically ok? I concluded they were cheating. Now, knowing their secret, I will just have to wait until the situation presents itself, wherein, I will recognize the signal and either not participate or jump onboard against the Casino?
As for SVB gambling, I side with those who view it as his business and no one else's.
Poker in the casino is simply paying the casino to have a place to play. If you win then you won the other player's money and not the casino's. The casino takes a rake from each hand and makes money regardless of which players win or lose.
And yes, players collude. Haven't you ever seen Rounders
Poker in the casino is simply paying the casino to have a place to play. If you win then you won the other player's money and not the casino's. The casino takes a rake from each hand and makes money regardless of which players win or lose.
And yes, players collude. Haven't you ever seen Rounders
This just reminded me...
WOULD THEY MAKE ROUNDERS 2 ALREADY?!
We've waited long enough.
I have heard that he is a pal of Jordans so this comes as no surprise. Jordan is in another league though, restaurant workers, cocktail waitresses, bartenders, he gives up nothing to no one.
I have heard from people in Chicago that hes that way in some restaurants where they kiss his ass and he gives up zero to the working people.
And they look up to this slob ?