Lil John postings on the SB Board

[watchez]

If anybody knows were I can get a fair game for atleast a couple of dimes with no problems and would love to come play. I miss playing and gambling but sometimes I wonder if all the bull that comes with it is really worth it........ JOHN

LJ...you are always welcome in St Louis. Tournament @Side Pockets March 25th $1000 added & there is a player here in town with bout 30 large ready for action. Send me a PM if you want more info. It is suppose to snow here Monday so if you come liljon, you better bring your long johns.

 

[Jimmy M.]

pool gamblers = scum of the earth

"Pool gamblers" are just about every player that you probably think plays well. There are VERY few great players who don't gamble vs. the ones who do. I don't know you, but maybe you'd enjoy another game where it isn't like that. Golf's out. Umm ... hell, I can't think of a good one. I'd send you off to play bridge or bingo with the old folks but I think they gamble at that too!

 

[PlynSets]

Stupid question here, but I'm kinda new to pool on the "internet" anyways.. LOL

Lil John = John Schmidt?

If so I want to play some sets with him.. LOL We played a long time ago and I doubt he'd even remember my ass, but I'll donate a few hundred to the cause just to get a chance to play with a player of his caliber again.

DJ

 

[huckster]

I didnt know that my southern billiards post was on az but anyway there was no gaff, just a tight diamond that was real damp and springy and even though I thought i had the nuts the guy busted me. He wasnt obligated to give me a chance at my money back but the guy said he has worth 10 million dollars and I thought he should have gave me a chance to get a couple thousand back anyway. Like I said there was no contract and he won fair and square. I blame myself for not practicing before I left home and I would have never been in the spot to begin with. I got aggrevated when he offered another game after I was 3500 stuck and I agreed and he lost one game of one pocket for a nickel and quit after about 30 minutes. The Boston thing was no comparison and all I got back on that so far has been 300.00. I want to get out and start playing but it always seems that Im running up hill everytime I play. If anybody knows were I can get a fair game for atleast a couple of dimes with no problems and would love to come play. I miss playing and gambling but sometimes I wonder if all the bull that comes with it is really worth it........ JOHN

Jon,
Sent you a pm please get back to me Ohio is a nice place to visit in the spring.


Huckster

 

[Perk]

Stupid question here, but I'm kinda new to pool on the "internet" anyways.. LOL

Lil John = John Schmidt?

If so I want to play some sets with him.. LOL We played a long time ago and I doubt he'd even remember my ass, but I'll donate a few hundred to the cause just to get a chance to play with a player of his caliber again.

DJ

Lil John is not the John Schmidt you are refering to. John Schmidt has posted on this board under the name: "John Schmidt". Hope that helps.

 

[1pRoscoe]

liljohn = John Macias

 

[Actionhound]

the table...

the Table is not a Gaffe table.. its a 9 ft Diamond table with pro-cut pockets thats plays tight... (almost like a triple shimmed but not that bad)

and there is action for lj in birmingham... but noone up there has any heart...

 

[MO4]

Kiss,

I agree completely. The varying "rules" about what is right to do when winning in a session are very confusing. On a personal level, situations like this led me to quit gambling on pool. It was as bad winning as it was losing because if you won, you were somehow indebted to the loser to keep gambling with him until he wanted to quit. Half the time they wanted to change the spot also.

It's hard to tell from John's story, but it may not even have been on the same day that he rounded up more money. What's this guy George supposed to do? Take the money he won and put it in escrow somewhere for a stated period of time? It could be like a statute of limitations, lol.

What if he took the money and, together with his original stake, bought a used car, for example? Somehow he's bad action because he went out and bought something with the money?

Again, tough to tell from John's story, but he also seems to say they wanted to DOUBLE the bet. This guy George is bad action for not wanting to do that?

A bizarre set of rules, I tell you...

- Steve

Couldn't agree more. I will play ANYONE even up as long as they will go double or nothing for as long as I want to. The worst I could do is break even.

 

[Black-Balled]

Couldn't agree more. I will play ANYONE even up as long as they will go double or nothing for as long as I want to. The worst I could do is break even.

Or run out of $?

 

[pharaoh68]

I don't think it was all of the backers' money. I think he and his road partner both had a substantial amount of dough in the 17-sand-bag post. Matter of fact, I believe, subject to check, that one of his backers was en route to Boston when the heist occurred.

JAM

Right you are JAM. Liljon and his partner were the only two people in the room that weren't with Ruberto. He had a backer and I believe a little muscle en route but, unfortunately, the money was gone before any of them even stepped off their plane.

 

[JAM]

Right you are JAM. Liljon and his partner were the only two people in the room that weren't with Ruberto. He had a backer and I believe a little muscle en route but, unfortunately, the money was gone before any of them even stepped off their plane.

Poor Liljon and his road partner hadn't had much sleep either before the match as they had gambled with Ruberto the previous night. They happened to be a little "up" at this juncture and wanted to pool their winnings together and play Ruberto for the whole kaboodle, collectively speaking, at 17 bags of sand apiece.

Liljon's road partner spoke to my road partner (LOL) on the phone before, during, and after the match. When he heard that the sand bags were underneath the table, he warned Liljon's road partner to be careful and remove it immediately and put it in a "safe" place where the sand bags would be protected, but his cautionary words went unheeded.

Unfortunately, due to sleep deprivation, Liljon's road partner fell asleep in his chair, and when Liljon least expected it, taking a trip to the men's room, the money was stolen by an unknown entity, while Liljon's road partner was snoozing.

IMHO, the sand bags, which were placed in an envelope underneath their designated table, weren't stolen by Liljon or his road partner.

If only Liljon and his road partner would have taken a nap and waited for the stakehorse to arrive in Boston, this tragedy wouldn't have happened. Sometimes, though, especially when engaging in games of stake, the participants desire to keep the action going while all of the parties are present, just in case one of the parties changes their mind. Liljon and his road partner were "in the heat of the battle," if you will.

JAM

 

[pharaoh68]

IMHO, the sand bags, which were placed in an envelope underneath their designated table, weren't stolen by Liljon or his road partner.

JAM

No way Liljon had anything to do with this. For those who don't know too much of the story, Ruberto claimed that he "might know what happened but that he could develop a sudden case of amnesia" if Liljon kept talking about it online. Those to me are not the words of an innocent man.

 

[ironman]

yes steve, you are suppose to keep playing until you lose all your money and worthy possessions to the player with the bigger mouth and badder reputation, does not make a dern who is the better pool player. then when you lose all that, you get made fun of forever, but heaven forbid you win 1 dollar off the guy fair and square. no such thing as a graceful loser among pool hustlers.

pool gamblers = scum of the earth

NITS= take up too much space in the pool room

 

[MO4]

Or run out of $?

Can't see that happening.

 

[ironman]

I didnt know that my southern billiards post was on az but anyway there was no gaff, just a tight diamond that was real damp and springy and even though I thought i had the nuts the guy busted me. He wasnt obligated to give me a chance at my money back but the guy said he has worth 10 million dollars and I thought he should have gave me a chance to get a couple thousand back anyway. Like I said there was no contract and he won fair and square. I blame myself for not practicing before I left home and I would have never been in the spot to begin with. I got aggrevated when he offered another game after I was 3500 stuck and I agreed and he lost one game of one pocket for a nickel and quit after about 30 minutes. The Boston thing was no comparison and all I got back on that so far has been 300.00. I want to get out and start playing but it always seems that Im running up hill everytime I play. If anybody knows were I can get a fair game for atleast a couple of dimes with no problems and would love to come play. I miss playing and gambling but sometimes I wonder if all the bull that comes with it is really worth it........ JOHN

Hey, give me a call when you get a chance. Lewis

 

[TX Poolnut]

Actually, if you always double the bet, you will never just break even. Eventually when you win, you will be ahead the amount of the original bet. For example, if your original bet is 5 dollars and you lose, then you're down 5 bucks. Double that bet and lose, you're now down 15 bucks. Double that bet to 20 and lose, you're down 35 bucks. Double that bet and lose, your down 75 bucks. Double again to 80 and win, now you're up 5 bucks.

This is a strategy employed in craps called the Martingale system. If you can hold on and just keep doubling your bet till you win once, all your losses will be cleared and you will be up the amount of the original bet. The only problem is casino tables have a maximum bet and it doesn't take too long to get there.

Do the math with any structure of betting and you'll see how it works.
Julius Ceaser was known to bet this way and lost alot of money and property betting with the Martingale.

 

[Black-Balled]

Can't see that happening.

Chuh-ching

 

[Andrew Manning]

Actually, if you always double the bet, you will never just break even. Eventually when you win, you will be ahead the amount of the original bet. For example, if your original bet is 5 dollars and you lose, then you're down 5 bucks. Double that bet and lose, you're now down 15 bucks. Double that bet to 20 and lose, you're down 35 bucks. Double that bet and lose, your down 75 bucks. Double again to 80 and win, now you're up 5 bucks.

This is a strategy employed in craps called the Martingale system. If you can hold on and just keep doubling your bet till you win once, all your losses will be cleared and you will be up the amount of the original bet. The only problem is casino tables have a maximum bet and it doesn't take too long to get there.

Do the math with any structure of betting and you'll see how it works.
Julius Ceaser was known to bet this way and lost alot of money and property betting with the Martingale.

While your math is correct, and the history lesson was cool, he didn't exactly say "always double the bet", he said "double or nothing", which generally means continuing to bet the amount you're down, hence you'll either be down double what you just were, or nothing.

-Andrew

 

[pharaoh68]

I, for one, see doubling down as a bad thing and I avoid doing it whenever possible (unless I know I'm a lock to win). The way I see it, I can spend four, five, six hours, or whatever whipping someone around the table and racking up a large sum of their cash. Then, they can get lucky or have one good set and win all of that money back? It ain't right.

Whenever I say no, I usually get met with the usual response of "But you gotta give me a chance to win my money back". Well, I gave you for or five chances to win you money back and you kept losing more of it!!!

 

[thebighurt]

Lil John,

You came through Hollywood Billiards in Hollywood Florida a couple of years ago and I was out of town when you came through. We talked on the phone about playing. I play once a week now, but if you want to come back down and give me a week or 2 to hit balls I will play you a 2-3 thousand dollar set. Answer back and I promise you action down here.

Rob M.