Looking for softshot!

HollyWood said:
Your at strike one, want to go for two ? guess what happens at 3 ? Have a monumental day John, because you are the other side of Mount Rushmore. spell sportsman John. I travel the world John- your sounding more like a terrorist everyday now. I know for a fact Softshot would drill ya on the Pool table. but after all the sexual comments (you might enjoy that kind of stuff- he'd tell ya - Promise it won't hurt. Let me know when your going to be in the states. I 'll buy breakfeast for ya- but you'll be eating it through a straw! We don't need to play pool I'll just take your money fool. mark
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Let's do strike two and three right now TROLL. I don't care if Softshot would drill me on the pool table. The fact is he said he would do the spin shots with drywall. Guess what genius? I posted a video of me doing spin shots and have yet to see one from him. That's all. No challenge to play him some although I am game to try anyone for a couple hundred to see what they got.

I sound like a "terrorist"??? You really are insane if you read anything threatening in my response to you.

The only fool here is you. You are taking things WAY out of context, getting on a moral high horse about the "tone" of my playful video about Kamui chalk and then Mr. Morals you proceed to threaten to beat me up. How very Christian of you.

I will be sure to have my assistant send you my schedule. Why don't you email me your full name and address so that she can put you in the folder of loonies who threaten me so that the police know who to contact when one of you nutjobs really does grow some balls and actually snaps?

Now, do you have ANYTHING at all to add to the actual subject beside delusional character attacks? I swear your account is possessed by the ghosts of banned posters by the way you are going off here.

And you forgot to post the video link Mr. Morals -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4viV4Yas7c4
 
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really? did you just post that video for real? really dude? i'm lost for words!lmao! cant wait to see the dry wall shots.( and i know they are coming) dont be suprised jb.
 
HollyWood said:
Your at strike one, want to go for two ? guess what happens at 3 ? Have a monumental day John, because you are the other side of Mount Rushmore. spell sportsman John. I travel the world John- your sounding more like a terrorist everyday now. I know for a fact Softshot would drill ya on the Pool table. but after all the sexual comments (you might enjoy that kind of stuff- he'd tell ya - Promise it won't hurt. Let me know when your going to be in the states. I 'll buy breakfeast for ya- but you'll be eating it through a straw! We don't need to play pool I'll just take your money fool. mark
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And how do you know Softshot would drill him on the table?? Ive seen videos of him shooting and the things he does are very elementary. The thing about this thread is, Its not about who is the better player its about chalk. Drop the tough guy act too, nobodys impressed.
 
Lol I loved this video for many reasons

"Which I think is bullshit...by the way. Okay? Softshot, you understand? I think it's bullshit, let's see you do it with drywall. I think you're full of shit"

"Drywall boy"

And of course, your hybrid chalk- which I thought was simple and therefore ingenius.

BTW John if you get lower on your shots and stay down, your draw stroke would be so much better. Way too many times you move forward, stand up, twitch, or shorten your stroke on those shots. I know you're aware of it, but why do it?
 
John, like others, I agree that it was honest of you to hit record and run with whatever happened rather than editing. That took a lot of balls. I have seen a few of your demo vids and I know you are a better player than what was demonstrated in this video.

After the first chalk and miscue, I was thinking, this is gonna hurt.

1. To get a pro to make these shots is redundant. I thought one of the main points that Kamui chalk advocators were dwelling on, is that it is a Magic chalk that can make even a novice player shoot better. Of course a Pro can make those shots, with or without Kamui chalk.



I think that it's important to remember that I was going way out on the cue ball on every shot. And I did not chalk in between shots.
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Is that not the point of using Kamui chalk? I thought anyone was to be able to use extreme English without chalking for a gazillion shots. If you are going to chalk between shots, you're better off using Master or Master Pre Flag.
Kamui won't last long if you chalk after every shot.

That wasn't the only miscue and from the sound of it, I heard a lot of near miscues also.

Using Pre Flag, I miscue seldom. In fact, with a scuffed tip, I know that I can at the very least, make 10 shots without chalking, maybe more, who knows. Thats more than enuff for me. When I do miscue, its usually on a draw shot where I put too much bottom on it or more bottom than necessary.

And speaking of draw shots, I take it that you know you are jabbing the cue ball.
 
evanlockhart said:
Lol I loved this video for many reasons

"Which I think is bullshit...by the way. Okay? Softshot, you understand? I think it's bullshit, let's see you do it with drywall. I think you're full of shit"

"Drywall boy"

And of course, your hybrid chalk- which I thought was simple and therefore ingenius.

BTW John if you get lower on your shots and stay down, your draw stroke would be so much better. Way too many times you move forward, stand up, twitch, or shorten your stroke on those shots. I know you're aware of it, but why do it?
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The conditions I put myself through is one of the reasons I look like crap on videos like these. I have a real physical problem with my back and when it's bad then it hurts to get down on the ball. I need to stretch a little and play a bit to warm up and get loose before feeling comfortable. Then of course there is the "emotion" wrapped up in a challenge video coupled with the desire to "show off". I would really have done much better if I hadn't decided on the spur of the moment to jump on the table and make a video.

Also couple this all with the fact that I have really bad stroking habits that take a lot of concentration on my part to overcome. Earlier in the year I took lessons and my stroke got way better and I was actually doing well for a while. But then I stopped playing so much and slipped back into the old bad habits. So when I do something like this the bad stroke is really magnified.

Still though I was putting some good spin on the ball and that's what I wanted to show. The way the ball reacts is important.

Maybe today I will prepare a little more and do a take two and see if it's any better. I think what I am learning is that I have to keep my arm oiled and my mind right if I want to show off what I know how to do.
 
Softspot's in trouble here....

I just tried drywall on a house cue.....
...couldn't go more than a half-tip off center without miscuing.
every power draw was a miscue

kinda gives 'playin' off the wall' a whole new twist
 
JB Cases said:
Maybe today I will prepare a little more and do a take two and see if it's any better. I think what I am learning is that I have to keep my arm oiled and my mind right if I want to show off what I know how to do.
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I noticed you were getting in stroke around the 19-minute mark. Your eyes lit up after trying out the hybrid chalk and I could tell you were hitting a gear. Would be cool to see a vid again after you find that rhythm
 
Blue Hog ridr said:
John, like others, I agree that it was honest of you to hit record and run with whatever happened rather than editing. That took a lot of balls. I have seen a few of your demo vids and I know you are a better player than what was demonstrated in this video.

After the first chalk and miscue, I was thinking, this is gonna hurt.

1. To get a pro to make these shots is redundant. I thought one of the main points that Kamui chalk advocators were dwelling on, is that it is a Magic chalk that can make even a novice player shoot better. Of course a Pro can make those shots, with or without Kamui chalk.





Is that not the point of using Kamui chalk? I thought anyone was to be able to use extreme English without chalking for a gazillion shots. If you are going to chalk between shots, you're better off using Master or Master Pre Flag.
Kamui won't last long if you chalk after every shot.

That wasn't the only miscue and from the sound of it, I heard a lot of near miscues also.

Using Pre Flag, I miscue seldom. In fact, with a scuffed tip, I know that I can at the very least, make 10 shots without chalking, maybe more, who knows. Thats more than enuff for me. When I do miscue, its usually on a draw shot where I put too much bottom on it or more bottom than necessary.

And speaking of draw shots, I take it that you know you are jabbing the cue ball.
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I don't really know what the video shows. On hand you could make the argument that Kamui doesn't help at all but on the other hand you could say that with such a bad jabby stroke the ball still moved quite a bit.

I don't know. The first time I used it I felt pretty good about it. I certainly do not think that it's very easy to determine whether it's so much better than regular chalk based on the experience I have now with it. It still feels much better and is comfortable to play with.

And as I said for me, the combination of Kamui and Masters really feels good. Again I don't know if that's just placebo, just the fact that I did it at the end when I already had about 30ish shots taken and was warmed up a bit or if it's really something better when the two are combined. I am not really even set up to answer those questions in anything but an rough example kind of way.

As an "inventor" of sorts I am always interested in new tech and improvements and so I have been really curious about this chalk. I personally feel that the jury is still out on it and that more real-world testing is needed. Of course you know me enough by now that I am a "don't believe the hype" kind of guy who likes to give products a shot by believing that the people behind them are basically good and that they have good intentions.

So that's my take on the chalk after having used it for a bit. I don't intend to be the non-paid research arm for Kamui. I really did hope a little that the chalk would help me to make Mike Massey's circular draw shot which has been eluding me for years.............dammit!

:-)
 
I am now 2 balls worse than i was by watching this video...lol! Just kidn' I still think drywall is better...lol!!
 
I have to apologize. I didn't watch the video in its entirety the first time John posted it and I did watch more today. John did make some pretty decent shots later on. Shots that I wish I knew how to make.

But still, I think John could have made those with ordinary chalk just the same.
 
evanlockhart said:
I noticed you were getting in stroke around the 19-minute mark. Your eyes lit up after trying out the hybrid chalk and I could tell you were hitting a gear. Would be cool to see a vid again after you find that rhythm
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Just found out that you can copy the url at an exact time. Pause the video and right click it and choose "copy video url at current time" - I guess that this is a new feature in the latest flash player or something from youTube.

That said here is a shot that I liked, you can't really see the angle but it's severe and I cut the ball in and spin the cueball with inside english to go down table towards the pocket that the one ball is cut into. Not an easy shot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2FOwZATKX4&feature=player_detailpage#t=1286s

I'd like to see "drywall" do that shot.
 
JB Cases said:
Just found out that you can copy the url at an exact time. Pause the video and right click it and choose "copy video url at current time" - I guess that this is a new feature in the latest flash player or something from youTube.
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Ahh, exactly the info I'm very curious to find out, thanks :grin: Rep for ya
 
This video proved 2 things to me. One,the stroke more than the chalk determines the success of the shot. Two, for me personally, Kamui isn't worth the extra money.

I'm not knockin you here John, it took balls to do what you did by not editing out all the miscues. Props to you and enjoy the chalk.

BTW, very nice pool table!
 
Blue Hog ridr said:
John, like others, I agree that it was honest of you to hit record and run with whatever happened rather than editing. That took a lot of balls. I have seen a few of your demo vids and I know you are a better player than what was demonstrated in this video.

After the first chalk and miscue, I was thinking, this is gonna hurt.

1. To get a pro to make these shots is redundant. I thought one of the main points that Kamui chalk advocators were dwelling on, is that it is a Magic chalk that can make even a novice player shoot better. Of course a Pro can make those shots, with or without Kamui chalk.





Is that not the point of using Kamui chalk? I thought anyone was to be able to use extreme English without chalking for a gazillion shots. If you are going to chalk between shots, you're better off using Master or Master Pre Flag.
Kamui won't last long if you chalk after every shot.

That wasn't the only miscue and from the sound of it, I heard a lot of near miscues also.

Using Pre Flag, I miscue seldom. In fact, with a scuffed tip, I know that I can at the very least, make 10 shots without chalking, maybe more, who knows. Thats more than enuff for me. When I do miscue, its usually on a draw shot where I put too much bottom on it or more bottom than necessary.

And speaking of draw shots, I take it that you know you are jabbing the cue ball.
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I also agree that it took balls to not edit the video, and for that my hat is off to John for being honest. But, it also makes me believe what I have believed all along and that is simple Kamui Chalk is no better or worst than any other I have tried, and I have tried it.

In the end it is the ability of the player to deliver a good stroke through the cue ball and not the chalk. So what does this prove, not much except that if you have a good stroke you will miscue less no matter what chalk you use.

To the point that you don't have to chalk as often between shots, all I can say is it doesn't matter to me. I don't know how others play, but for myself I walk around the table making certain how I am going to shoot my next shot and while I am doing so I chalk my cue for my next shot. This is a major part of my per-shot routine, now I know their are allot of great players on this site, and many may not need to do this. However, for those who have ever had any instruction at all, chalking their cue between shots is part of the pre-shot routine they were taught.

Whether you agree with me or not doesn't matter I am not posting here to change anyones opinion, and no one will change mine. But, I do think that $25 for any cube of chalk that doesn't chalk my cue for me is out of the question, especially when you consider my opinion based upon my comments above.

Oh and by the way, I am going to try the dry wall for chalk. I will post a review after the test is completed, and John I am going to base the review on the shots you were demonstrating in your video. While it seem laughable that some one would use dry wall in this manner I am not certain it would not work, but I do think it will make a mess do to how fine it is.

JIMO
 
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I have tried drywall!

I was in the process of filming but got shut down, baby sleeping.

From the two shots I hit with drywall, it was obvious that chalk...any chalk is vastly superior to drywall.

I will try to get some video up tomorrow...

Hopefully posting some drywall shots moves me up John's waiting list :)
 
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