McCready's big Payday ????

Heyalex40

Heyalex40

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Ok, I know that gossip in the pool room is about 3 steps below The National Enquirer but I've herd the same Keith McCready story twice. Anyone know if is real or not? The story I'm hearing is that Keith with help from JAM has won a lawsuit for HUGE $$$ paying hime for unpaid residuals for The Color of Money. Sounds far fetched to me but I herd this from two unrelated sources. Anyone have any info if this is true? Keith ?? JAM ?? care to comment? I hope it's true. I would love to see Keith livin large.
 
Heyalex40 said:
Ok, I know that gossip in the pool room is about 3 steps below The National Enquirer but I've herd the same Keith McCready story twice. Anyone know if is real or not? The story I'm hearing is that Keith with help from JAM has won a lawsuit for HUGE $$$ paying hime for unpaid residuals for The Color of Money. Sounds far fetched to me but I herd this from two unrelated sources. Anyone have any info if this is true? Keith ?? JAM ?? care to comment? I hope it's true. I would love to see Keith livin large.
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I don't think it was a lawsuit...Jam made a earlier post saying they were contacted by the actors guild about unpaid royalties and Keith was suppose to get a nice chunk.
 
I missed this thread

punter said:
Here's a link to JAM's thread on this subject:

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=163289
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One of the posts said Keith did a great job for a non actor, and played the part perfect. Personally, I think he just did an impression of Keith. LOL.... He did a fabulous job with the part. I can't even imagine any, {yes I mean any} actor playing that part and coming off as a believeable player like Keith did.
Help him take care of that money Jam. Looks like a living legend, gets a little jelly roll at the right time.
 
I'm glad Keith McCready. For a while it was like a nightmare, that kept getting worse and worse. (getting residuals) was an impossible dream. Great job for JAM.
 
satman said:
One of the posts said Keith did a great job for a non actor, and played the part perfect. Personally, I think he just did an impression of Keith. LOL.... He did a fabulous job with the part. I can't even imagine any, {yes I mean any} actor playing that part and coming off as a believeable player like Keith did.
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Funny thing is what he did is not as easy as one might think. Despite the fact that someone might be the exact archetype as who they are playing on screen alot of people in front of the camera would have trouble playing things off naturally. No offence to John Mars but if you compare him in his movie to Keith in TCOM Keith comes off far more natural and far less like he is acting. Keith was very natural, his lines seem like improv as if Scorsese said "simply go out there and be yourself, talk trash, shoot pool, I will edit it all up into a good montage after" and Keith did just that. He did not let the camera polish the actions or the speach, it was raw adn realistic portrayal of a pool player in a bar playing for cash. Compare that to Ricky Schroder, a trained actor... Keith did a heck of a job.
 
Celtic said:
Funny thing is what he did is not as easy as one might think. Despite the fact that someone might be the exact archetype as who they are playing on screen alot of people in front of the camera would have trouble playing things off naturally. No offence to John Mars but if you compare him in his movie to Keith in TCOM Keith comes off far more natural and far less like he is acting. Keith was very natural, his lines seem like improv as if Scorsese said "simply go out there and be yourself, talk trash, shoot pool, I will edit it all up into a good montage after" and Keith did just that. He did not let the camera polish the actions or the speach, it was raw adn realistic portrayal of a pool player in a bar playing for cash. Compare that to Ricky Schroder, a trained actor... Keith did a heck of a job.
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You mean Mars Callahan in Pool Hall Junkies? Or did our own Mars Man do a feature that I missed ?
 
That was me...and you're absolutely right! Keith was definitely playing "Keith", and did it a "T"! He "acted" the exact same way when I played him way back in '75 (he was 17 and I was 21). He didn't like it then either (getting beat)! LOL :eek::grin-square:

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

satman said:
One of the posts said Keith did a great job for a non actor, and played the part perfect. Personally, I think he just did an impression of Keith. LOL.... He did a fabulous job with the part. I can't even imagine any, {yes I mean any} actor playing that part and coming off as a believeable player like Keith did.
Help him take care of that money Jam. Looks like a living legend, gets a little jelly roll at the right time.
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Henry...The reason Keith never got residuals is because he, for YEARS, never had a home address, a social security number, or paid taxes. They (SAG) had no way to track him down. I'm glad he finally got his "due". Hopefully JAM will help him invest it wisely for his old age!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

ctyhntr said:
I'm glad Keith McCready. For a while it was like a nightmare, that kept getting worse and worse. (getting residuals) was an impossible dream. Great job for JAM.
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JCIN said:
You mean Mars Callahan in Pool Hall Junkies? Or did our own Mars Man do a feature that I missed ?
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LOL JCIN you jacked my post, I was gonna say the same damn thing. Unless he has a John Mars straight to DVD release no one else does, im gonna go with he meant the dude in PHJ!
 
Heyalex40 said:
Ok, I know that gossip in the pool room is about 3 steps below The National Enquirer but I've herd the same Keith McCready story twice. Anyone know if is real or not? The story I'm hearing is that Keith with help from JAM has won a lawsuit for HUGE $$$ paying hime for unpaid residuals for The Color of Money. Sounds far fetched to me but I herd this from two unrelated sources. Anyone have any info if this is true? Keith ?? JAM ?? care to comment? I hope it's true. I would love to see Keith livin large.
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Hard to believe that the same fiction was related twice by independent sources, and this couln't be further from the truth.

To be honest, the Screen Actors Guild was not only not sued, but that organization showed a very high level of integrity in making the effort to locate Keith for so long to pay him monies due.

That the facts as presented to you sounded far-fetched speaks well of your sense of logic.
 
Scott,

I was hoping someone would remember Keith's lines from TCOM. Buy you a beer at VF.

Henry

Scott Lee said:
Henry...The reason Keith never got residuals is because he, for YEARS, never had a home address, a social security number, or paid taxes. They (SAG) had no way to track him down. I'm glad he finally got his "due". Hopefully JAM will help him invest it wisely for his old age!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
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I'll tell you why Keith's lines sounded so natural in the movie. He (and I) wrote them. We were sent a script for Keith to review with his part highlighted. When he took a look at it, Keith did not like the lines he was being asked to say. He told me he would never say anything like that. So I called Scorcese's office and told them Keith didn't like the lines that were given to him. Scorcese sent a message back for us to rewrite them the way Keith would say it, and we did.

We wrote new lines and put them in the margins of the script. ALL these lines were inserted into the new script and those were the ones he used in the movie. Keith was much more comfortable with the lines we constructed. As I came to find out later, Scorcese is well known for doing things like this. He likes the feeling of spontaneity in his films. He is all about realism.
 
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Hopefully you get some Jelly

jay helfert said:
I'll tell you why Keith's lines sounded so natural in the movie. He (and I) wrote them. We were sent a script for Keith to review with his part highlighted. When he took a look at it, Keith did not like the lines in the script. He told me he would never say anything like that. So I called Scorcese's office and told them Keith didn't like the lines he was being asked to say. Scorcese sent a message back for us to rewrite them the way Keith would say them, and we did.

We wrote new lines and put them in the margins of the script. ALL these lines were inserted into the new script and that was what he said in the movie. Keith was much more comfortable with the lines we constructed.
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Keith will blow through that cash, hopefully he will spread a little jelly your way.
 
markpatrick said:
Keith will blow through that cash, hopefully he will spread a little jelly your way.
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Many times Keith owed me money! And he always remembered our "number." I would see him at a tournament and he would look at me and say, "What's our number Toupee?" I couldn't always remember and he would tell me, "It's 240." Or whatever it was. He somehow kept track of all the money he owed to everyone (and there were a lot of us).

The last time he owed me money, I came across him in the hall of a large Vegas casino early in the morning. I was just getting up and he was just getting done for the night. We stopped in the hallway and he hit me with that 'what's our number line'. As usual I didn't remember. He then told me, something like 360. Keith reaches in his front pocket and pulls out a wad big enough to choke a horse. He peels off the 360 and smiles, "We're all square now." Then he laughs and takes an equally large stack out of his other front pocket. "How do you like it Toupee?" and he prances on down the hall. I found out later he had hit the craps for about 50 grand. There it all was in his front two pockets. What a guy! You just had to love him.
 
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jay helfert said:
The last time he owed me money, I came across him in the hall of a large Vegas casino early in the morning. I was just getting up and he was just getting done for the night. We stopped in the hallway and he hit me with that 'what's our number line'. As usual I didn't remember. He then told me, something like 360. Keith reaches in his front pocket and pulls out a wad big enough to choke a horse. He peels off the 360 and smiles, "We're all square now." Then he laughs and takes an equally large stack out of his other front pocket. "How do you like it Toupee?" and he prances on down the hall. I found out later he had hit the craps for about 50 grand. There it all was in his front two pockets. What a guy! You just had to love him.
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Jay, it's moments like this you share with us that makes everyone happy you are here.

I hope this comes to light for the Keither. He is such a charismatic guy and a living legend. He deserves every penny and more. I hope his life is filled with nothing but laughter and love and a fat jelly roll.
 
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