Meucci Originals
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> The quality of Meucci cues before the early 90's wasn't bad,other than the use of "implex" or fairly soft plastic parts for ferrules,joint collars,and even entire butt sleeves. The playability was not bad at ALL. The shafts came as 13.25mm standard,and even with a long taper,weren't all that whippy,as long as the shaft was made from good tight wood.
The quality went downhill BAD from there,not only in build quality but playability as well.
If you find an Original that hasn't had the shaft radically sanded,it should play ok. Most made since then have been varying degrees of crap.
For playability,you'd probably be better off with a Cuetec than practically anything they've made in the last 15 years. Tommy D.
The quality went downhill BAD from there,not only in build quality but playability as well.
If you find an Original that hasn't had the shaft radically sanded,it should play ok. Most made since then have been varying degrees of crap.
For playability,you'd probably be better off with a Cuetec than practically anything they've made in the last 15 years. Tommy D.
The real old ones made before something like 80 or 83 are great cues, I dont know what happened when but the new cues are not even compairable to the earily cues.
Thanks for the info. I'm looking for a back up cue to my JossWest. I like the old school players, so I figured I'd ask about the early Meucci's.
Back up your JW with another JW, that way the back-up cue plays similar to your primary cue. Old JW and old Mucci's are at oppsite ends of the (something-I cant think of the word), JW's have a thick butt, are heavy and rather stiff, I play my friend almost everyday he has a JW he bought new in 74, I have played with it many times this past year. I havent hit a ball with a "Old" Mucci in a very long time, but I have played with Artie Bordordenfor's Mucci thats 15? years old, and its a soft finness kinda cue, where as my friends JW is alot more stout. I wouldnt want to have to switch between those 2 cues, they are very different.
I have a Szam that I use as a back up cue I use at home when i'm getting my tips changed, Sometimes I just play with it because I love the cue. It feels similar to my daily player. My point is having a cue collection is one thing, but if your sole purpose for having a 2nd cue to play withm make sure its similar to your primary cue.
The Meucci cues I have played with that were made in the 70's or the 80's played pretty well, unlike the crap that has been made since the late 90's.
I beat a bunch of great players with mine. I now use it as my break cue and it hits as solid as a rock. For the $135 dollars I payed for it, I can't complain. I won fifty to sixty thousand playing with that cue, easy. It treated me right.
Well said...........
Never owned one, never wanted to. The only thing about a Meucci that reminded me of a pool cue was the shape.
I got to thinking about this reply and I believe I was unfair to Bob Meucci and his cues. Meucci's have been around a long time. Thousands of players have used them with great success, and Bob has contributed enormously to our understanding of the interaction between the cue shaft and cue ball. To say what I did was crass and unwarranted. Sorry Bob.
I got to thinking about this reply and I believe I was unfair to Bob Meucci and his cues. Meucci's have been around a long time. Thousands of players have used them with great success, and Bob has contributed enormously to our understanding of the interaction between the cue shaft and cue ball. To say what I did was crass and unwarranted. Sorry Bob.
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I wish I had a newer Meucci just to see how horrible they are supposed to be. Personally I think it reflects more on collector type folks not liking the quality.
I have a few Meucci cues. 1 original, 1 with a metal joint, OB-1 I think, and one 97-15 that I've had since the early 90s that I use as my player cue.
I picked them out when I owned a pool room and we were selling them. Shoot, in my wildest dreams, I'd never pay more than 2 or 3 hundred bucks TOPS!!! for a cue stick.
Now I love pool, I've been playing for about 50yrs. and I think if you put a good tip on a well sanded broomstick handle you'd be ok.
Well that's an exaggeration yes, but you get my drift.
It draws the mental picture in my mind of a guy sitting on the floor of a pharmacy whittling and whittling a piece of wood to make a perfectly shaped tooth pick while folks are stepping over him to pick boxes of tooth picks off the shelf and get to the checkout line...
Geez .. I dunno ... I just don't believe in reinventing the wheel when it's the tip that changes the hit more than anything.
But, you can't tell it to the guy who just bought a rabbit's foot in one store and then a winning lottery ticket in the next store.
I have a few Meucci cues. 1 original, 1 with a metal joint, OB-1 I think, and one 97-15 that I've had since the early 90s that I use as my player cue.
I picked them out when I owned a pool room and we were selling them. Shoot, in my wildest dreams, I'd never pay more than 2 or 3 hundred bucks TOPS!!! for a cue stick.
Now I love pool, I've been playing for about 50yrs. and I think if you put a good tip on a well sanded broomstick handle you'd be ok.
Well that's an exaggeration yes, but you get my drift.
It draws the mental picture in my mind of a guy sitting on the floor of a pharmacy whittling and whittling a piece of wood to make a perfectly shaped tooth pick while folks are stepping over him to pick boxes of tooth picks off the shelf and get to the checkout line...
Geez .. I dunno ... I just don't believe in reinventing the wheel when it's the tip that changes the hit more than anything.
But, you can't tell it to the guy who just bought a rabbit's foot in one store and then a winning lottery ticket in the next store.
My first cue purchase was a Meucci Original M-04. I played with it exclusively until I purchased a production Joss with a predator shaft. After a few months the Meucci rarely ever came out of the case.
6 months ago I purchased my JW. I shot with it and the Meucci for a week or so, and promptly sold the Meucci to my stepson.
While I do not use the JW as my player, I can certainly say that the hit and feel of the JW is MUCH different than the M-04.
I have shot with the JW with the Predator Shaft, and the Joss with the JW shafts. The JW is about 1oz heavier, and the butt is a bit beefier. Both have stainless joints. In switching back and forth I didn't seem to struggle, although the "hit" was different, it wasn't anywhere as noticeable as with the Meucci.
Just my 2.76 cents...
6 months ago I purchased my JW. I shot with it and the Meucci for a week or so, and promptly sold the Meucci to my stepson.
While I do not use the JW as my player, I can certainly say that the hit and feel of the JW is MUCH different than the M-04.
I have shot with the JW with the Predator Shaft, and the Joss with the JW shafts. The JW is about 1oz heavier, and the butt is a bit beefier. Both have stainless joints. In switching back and forth I didn't seem to struggle, although the "hit" was different, it wasn't anywhere as noticeable as with the Meucci.
Just my 2.76 cents...
Most have a plastic joint and they are relatively low squirt, neutral balanced, with a pretty soft sounding hit.
I play with a newer JW. My back up cue is a sneaky pete butt that matches my cue dimensions/weight/length and will take my Predator playing shafts. I can use it interchangably with my JW with no playing adjustment.
If you have two shafts on your JW, why don't you measure up the JW butt and have a cue guy shape and balance a Prather SP butt to accept your shafts? Then you have a back up that should play like your JW.
Chris
I had a late 80's Meucci that i liked better then the Schon i had just before it. The Meucci hit softer and put more action on the cue ball with less effort then the Schon. But the romance was short lived. The fuelle cracked and the cue warped a little(6 months). But while it was in good shape it suited me just fine.
I was at a pool match one night and a player I knew was playing with a new Meucci cue that he'd just bought. During his match he hit a shot and the entire butt sleeve and butt cap fell off the end of his cue! He picked up the butt sleeve/butt cap/rubber bumper assembly and we looked at it and you could see that there was only a small dot of glue on the tenon sticking out of the handle that was holding the assembly together. If it had been glued 100% like it should have been it wouldn't have ever just fallen off. This cue wasn't one of the older "Original" models and who ever did the assembly just didn't put the glue on the cue correctly. I guess that's an example of how workmanship can suffer when it's not done by someone who cares.
James