Mosconi's 526 record...Who could break it???
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Bob Jewett said:
Do you have any more details? Can you please PM me if you do? I'm not far from Louisville and would love to see this.
As far as the debate about the table Mosconi set his record on- I'm not really concerned with how big the pockets were, or what size the table was, or what type of cloth was on it. Making 526 consecutive balls is, to me, an incredible mental achievement. To accomplish that on any type of equipment is an unbelievable feat, requiring a degree of mental focus few people possess.
Paul8ball said:
I'm not sure an 8' table is as difficult as you think. Also, most 8' tables have larger pockets from what I've noticed. Remember you are not just banging balls here. On each break played it is assumed that you know were the cue is going and how the rack will be affected. I have played straight on an 8' and I find it is much easier than a 9'. This is just my personal experience.
SmoothStroke said:
Yea, better than Mike and Loree. This is the real stuff.
Keith McCready said:
Excuse, you lowlife piece of junkie excrement? You're a fine pair, you and miss prim and proper JAM, only I know what and who she is. I repeat, you oughta be ashamed of yourself. I'm gonna give you action but there's gonna some big changes. We're not playing in front of a partial audience. In fact there's not going to be anyone except you, me, the referee and a 48 pack of beer for you.
You are going to have to be able to play 48 hours or until somebody wins. Since you're so great I guess it's all right if I pick the equipment, place and game?
Grady in St Louis
Grady will be here, in ST LOUIS, this Monday night July 18th to play a match with Terry H. I will get to see with my own two eyes...#1. How good/bad Grady plays #2. What type of gentleman Grady is because he is playing one of the finest people of character I know. I won't report the outcome of the match but I will report if Grady is not the perfect gentleman as some on here are claiming.
I also applaud Grady for speaking his mind. If it is true that he indeed did try to get a few of his friends into rehab, that is even better. Some people can become enablers by ignoring problems and burying their head. Then they are satisfied with just the few moments of happiness in between all the turmoil. After awhile it probably makes these enablers act the same in all parts of their life. Just happy that someone is running a local pool tournament no matter now much they are screwing the players or out to make the quick buck. A good friend of mine and someone that used to be a very good pool player is now more happy smoking crack. I couldn't live with myself, now or when he is finally dead, if I knew that I in anyway enabled him to continue his habit. The last time I saw him, his words to me were that I was looking at him in disgust. He wasn't lying and neither was I.
Grady will be here, in ST LOUIS, this Monday night July 18th to play a match with Terry H. I will get to see with my own two eyes...#1. How good/bad Grady plays #2. What type of gentleman Grady is because he is playing one of the finest people of character I know. I won't report the outcome of the match but I will report if Grady is not the perfect gentleman as some on here are claiming.
I also applaud Grady for speaking his mind. If it is true that he indeed did try to get a few of his friends into rehab, that is even better. Some people can become enablers by ignoring problems and burying their head. Then they are satisfied with just the few moments of happiness in between all the turmoil. After awhile it probably makes these enablers act the same in all parts of their life. Just happy that someone is running a local pool tournament no matter now much they are screwing the players or out to make the quick buck. A good friend of mine and someone that used to be a very good pool player is now more happy smoking crack. I couldn't live with myself, now or when he is finally dead, if I knew that I in anyway enabled him to continue his habit. The last time I saw him, his words to me were that I was looking at him in disgust. He wasn't lying and neither was I.
That's not true according the tourney director in our local hall.DDKoop said:
He has several pictures of him playing Willie ( he was his exhibition partner in Philladelpia ).
Willie just missed according to him, and maintained to him he played on a 9-foot table.
That's already been covered several times. He missed. As I recall, the newspaper article at the time described it as a tough cut into the side. While it's not mentioned specifically in the affidavit -- which is on-line on the Smithsonian Institution's site -- I think it would have stated that there was no miss if that had been the case.JLW said:
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Grady said:
And let's NOT forget that Grady Matthews used to have an "I'll run a hundred or your exhibition is FREE" deal. I can't recall that Grady ever lost that bet? Grady?
John
The table was a 4X8. See the affidavit signed by witnesses at the time. It's remarkable how much bad info surrounds this run.JoeyInCali said:
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JAM said:
All I know about Johhny Ervolino is that he showed a young casemaker some real class. He played me one pocket for the major bet of $5 a game and after beating me easily 4 games he had me sign the $20. He treated me like I was somebody special just because I made cue cases.
That's the Johhny I remember. I know you're running out wherever you are.
John
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sjm said:
Are you serious? I normally agree with you but on this point I have to take exception. Adding the element of the jump cue would make it that more skilled and triumphant if successful.
First of all, as I have said countless times on these forums, to execute a jump shot correctly (that is making the ball) you must do everything you would normally do for any other shot AND calculate the trajectory as well. So HOW could you NOT think that this is a skilled shot? That's like saying all shots made using chalk should be disallowed.
Lastly, can you imagine how the audience would go nuts if the cueball rolled a little to far and the player pulled out a jump cue to jump the stack and his only chance to keep the 300+ run alive is to make the ball AND get perfect shape afterwards?
The "old masters" were more than happy to use the latest equipment. I certainly didn't see Mosconi trying to win his straight pool championships with a mace, or no leather tip or no chalk. I am positive that there were plenty of times in their carreer that they would have been more than happy to have had a jump cue. A pro masters all the tools available to him.
FOR THE LAST TIME (not really) THE JUMP CUE DOES NOT MAKE THE SHOT - THE PLAYER USING THE JUMP CUE MAKES THE SHOT.
John
onepocketchump said:
I agree, I do not think that a jump cue belongs in the game. Players should develop the skill to use good defensive kicking and better understand using the rails for shot making. If they want to jump, use their playing stick.
onepocketchump said:
How are you, John?
Guess we're destined to see this issue a little differently until eternity, although I have to admit that my views have been inching toward yours on the matter of nine ball. We both agree that the jump cue is an accepted part of modern nine ball, and that anyone with big dreams as a player must learn to use it effectively.
I don't, however, see it that way when it comes to straight pool. If we reduce the penalty for poor position play by allowing the jump stick in straight pool, I can see how we would still learn who the best straight pooler is today. I'll concede it might even make it more interesting to watch.
Nonetheless, if our goal is to see who can outperform Willie Mosconi, I don't see how we could logically allow jump cues.
OldHasBeen
Tom Ferry
Hellooooooooooooo?
If that is your goal - Your in trouble!
I think he is dead.
TY & GL
sjm said:
If that is your goal - Your in trouble!
I think he is dead.
TY & GL