My Varney cue order (sigh)

Double-Dave

Developing cue-addict
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About two and a half years ago I decided to give Mr. Varney an order for a very simple and plain sneaky pete.

We exchanged some very friendly emails and soon the order was finalized. I was promised a
delivery time of no more than a few days since the blank was allready made.
This delivery turned out to take a little longer to complete, about 3-4 weeks if I remember correctly.
No problem there, a couple weeks is still pretty fast if you ask me.

I received the cue and wasn't happy with the result. Mr. Varney had decided to cut the cue
just below the base points to add weight and make the cue more forward weighted.
Since I wanted a full-splice and this cue imo wasn?t one I returned the cue.

This was no problem for Mr. Varney and he happily took the cue back after letting me try
it out for several hours. I told him not to rush on making the new cue for me.
So far so good, I even made sure to compliment Mr. Varney on his customer service.

After a few months of waiting I decided to send Mr. Varney a pm requesting some more
information on the expected delivery date of my new cue. He told me it was nearly done
and that it shouldn't take too long.

After another couple of months in January of 2007 I decided that the best way to jump-start the
completion of my cue would be to order a few upgrades to make the extra work worth his wile.
So I contacted Mr. Varney again and upgraded to a high-quality blank with even points,
a high quality shaft and a 3/8x10 flat-top pin and joint collars.
These are all upgrades that he advertised several times on this board.
These upgrades ran me an extra $200, at the same time I inquired again about the expected
delivery time of the cue and was quoted 30-45 days.

That was around 20 months ago. In the mean time I have inquired at least 6 times about my cue
and each time was given a delivery time of between a few weeks and the old 'it's nearly done'.
Around 6 months ago it became very obvious that I wasn't the only one who had gotten this
routine after paying my hard earned money 100% in advance for a cue that I still don't have.
However I again decided to trust Mr. Varney would come thru on his promises of getting
all the backed up orders out "soon" and to keep them in order.


Nothing happened, so two months ago I decided to take it public for the first time in this thread:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=1383074
after seeing several cues being posted for members that joined the board after my order was made.
In this thread Mr. Varney indicated that my cue would be finished in mere days and it would ship very shortly.

Well, guess what? Two months have passed yet again and still no cue.
It is such a shame that Mr. Varney has still not figured out that the long delivery time isn't the main problem.
The main problem is lying to your paying customers about when to expect their finished product again and again.

So, for the last time Mr. Varney, how is it possible that my cue is still not finished and when will it ship?
I would so very much appreciate the truth just this once.

Dave Heijboer
 
Dave, again I apologize for the wait. I told you in the last thread it would be ready in a few days...and it will be. I won't get into the how's & why's as to how hard it is to get a fullsplice with EXACTLY even points. I don't make the blanks and often what starts as a possibly perfect blank isn't so after its finally turned to size. I know how picky you are after you sent the last cue back so I really wanted to get you an absolute perfect one. The cue is finished now and I have clear on it. I have two cues ahead that are late & promised as well. I even added nice micarta ringwork & an extra shaft to make up for the delay. The two ahead of yours are taking up the rest of this week but yours will ship out the first of the week and I'll post pics in the Gallery.
 
How does this guy not get banned? The AZ gods will ban people who cross some "verbal" lines, but a guy who rips people off time and time again is still here??? I just don't get it.
 
Varney Cues said:
Dave, again I apologize for the wait. I told you in the last thread it would be ready in a few days...and it will be. I won't get into the how's & why's as to how hard it is to get a fullsplice with EXACTLY even points. I don't make the blanks and often what starts as a possibly perfect blank isn't so after its finally turned to size. I know how picky you are after you sent the last cue back so I really wanted to get you an absolute perfect one. The cue is finished now and I have clear on it. I have two cues ahead that are late & promised as well. I even added nice micarta ringwork & an extra shaft to make up for the delay. The two ahead of yours are taking up the rest of this week but yours will ship out the first of the week and I'll post pics in the Gallery.
First story like this i have heard:rolleyes: What is his name ...Varney?
another fine custom...... it takes 3 years to get points even didnt you know that
Dave geezzzz:thumbup:
 
Varney Cues said:
Dave, again I apologize for the wait. I told you in the last thread it would be ready in a few days...and it will be. I won't get into the how's & why's as to how hard it is to get a fullsplice with EXACTLY even points. I don't make the blanks and often what starts as a possibly perfect blank isn't so after its finally turned to size. I know how picky you are after you sent the last cue back so I really wanted to get you an absolute perfect one. The cue is finished now and I have clear on it. I have two cues ahead that are late & promised as well. I even added nice micarta ringwork & an extra shaft to make up for the delay. The two ahead of yours are taking up the rest of this week but yours will ship out the first of the week and I'll post pics in the Gallery.

Mr. Varney,

I appreciate the response, and I also appreciate the free extras.
You did tell me in the last thread it would be a few days, but that was two months ago.
I can only hope you'll meet the delivery date you've set for yourself this time.
If you need my shipping adress let me know.

Dave
 
Oh no, not again! And to think there was once a time when I thought about ordering a cue from Mr. Varney. At my age :o , I don't think I would have the time to wait on it.
I don't have a problem with Mr. Varney as a person, but some of the promises he makes to customers (if what I read is true, and I have no reason to believe they are not) are totally out-of-line.

Maniac
 
Varney Cues said:
I told you in the last thread it would be ready in a few days...and it will be.

Yet more Varney comedy gold.

Apparently all the promises of "a few days" and "30-45 days" were not lies. They just didn't specify the start date. "A few days" from July 10, 2012.

I have to also laugh at the implication that you (Dave) are a picky customer and therefore deserving of the extra time required to meet your needs. Apparently he didn't factor that in when quoting the delivery time, and that's your fault.

Next time a client asks me to quote a deadline, maybe I'll miss it and then blame the client and see how well that goes over. If I can manage to delay the client for years and years, I'll call it "pulling a Varney".
 
xianmacx said:
How does this guy not get banned? The AZ gods will ban people who cross some "verbal" lines, but a guy who rips people off time and time again is still here??? I just don't get it.


Makes you wonder, huh......
 
shinobi said:
Yet more Varney comedy gold.

Apparently all the promises of "a few days" and "30-45 days" were not lies. They just didn't specify the start date. "A few days" from July 10, 2012.

I have to also laugh at the implication that you (Dave) are a picky customer and therefore deserving of the extra time required to meet your needs. Apparently he didn't factor that in when quoting the delivery time, and that's your fault.

Next time a client asks me to quote a deadline, maybe I'll miss it and then blame the client and see how well that goes over. If I can manage to delay the client for years and years, I'll call it "pulling a Varney".


tap tap tap............ this couldn't have been said better!!!!!

i thought that was rich as well. "i told you it would be ready in a few days.. and it will be" what a joke! and then to blame the 2 1/2 year wait on the guy that was trusting enough to pay 100% up front



is varney making these full spliced points himself? or just looking through schmelkey blanks for a blank with even points?
 
Maniac said:
Oh no, not again! And to think there was once a time when I thought about ordering a cue from Mr. Varney. At my age :o , I don't think I would have the time to wait on it.
I don't have a problem with Mr. Varney as a person, but some of the promises he makes to customers (if what I read is true, and I have no reason to believe they are not) are totally out-of-line.

Maniac


I'm guessing you're around 23?:D :D :D

You could get a Southwest in almost this time!!!! And people would stand in line to buy it when you were done with it.

Not Varney bashing but.........this is the reason I won't even buy a used one.
Too many great cue makers with great customer service out there....such as Scott Gracio!!!! Thanks for the bumper Scott....
 
axejunkie said:
I can't understand why people continue to order cues from him when there are plenty other cuemakers in his price range.


a lot of these threads are started by people that've been waiting for a year or more. about a year or so ago varney was still in very good standings with just about everyone on az.

he developed a pretty strong following here on az and at first anyone that said anything even slightly negative about him was shunned. so a lot of people ended up ordering cues from him and that's how he ended up getting "backed up" if that's what you want to call it. i have my own theory as to what happened but i'll keep that to myself
 
shinobi said:
Yet more Varney comedy gold.

I have to also laugh at the implication that you (Dave) are a picky customer and therefore deserving of the extra time required to meet your needs. Apparently he didn't factor that in when quoting the delivery time, and that's your fault.

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I noticed this too. Basically he's saying, I know you're picky, so I will not let the usual flaws go this time, but for everyone else, it's good enough. LMMFAO
 
I thought if you offset the high side on the blank in the chuck you can get the points even, usually you shim it with tape right and make another pass to try and even out the points right? Maybe I am wrong but I recall seeing this done by a few cuemakers to get them nice and at the same height all around.
 
Next time a client asks me to quote a deadline, maybe I'll miss it and then blame the client and see how well that goes over. If I can manage to delay the client for years and years, I'll call it "pulling a Varney".



funny.

and yes picky may not have been the best choice in words.
 
Of course it is the buyers fault! He must be at fault asking for things to be done correctly and lined up to boot! Wow what a nut!!! This could take a millenium to straighten out and it is all the fault of the customer!!!
The new business motto. The customer is always wrong...
 
Makes You Wonder

His signature says; "Play with a Varney or get beat by one". I assume "one" means Varney. That makes sense to me.
Play with a Varney or get beat by Varney. Kind of misleading don't ya think. :thumbup: There is only one Varney that I know of.
Peace, Purdman :smile:
 
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axejunkie said:
I can't understand why people continue to order cues from him when there are plenty other cuemakers in his price range.

In my case, it was because his cues play very nice (at least mine!!).

I bought second hand so I wouldn't have to deal with KV himself.

Love the cue!!
 
Forgot to add......

Sorry to hear of your dilema Dave. :frown:

I hope that you love your KV cue when, if?, you get it!!!!

Take care,

Russ......
 
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