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what does this mean?do you think this proves that all is well with Kevin and his customers?who are you trying to kid,yourself,Kevin?they are many unhappy customers here and i personally know more than one in the thread that has ordered a cue.i have no cue on order,but i do have freinds with a problem as do many of the "haters" as you call anyone who speaks out.it isn't about hating,it is people that are tired of waiting 2 years on a cue that was guaranteed to be delivered in 2-3 months.some just want a refund and others just want a phone call or PM,but no one is getting anything except i did see Cinncy get threatened and condescended to by the cuemaker.

that is the problem.


here is the solution:

i think a good solution would be to take one day or a half-day off and call or PM everyone on the list who is behind and try to accomodate them in anyway possible.most people are pretty reasonalbe and just don't want to be ignored.i bet even the maddest customers could be appeased with a small discount and a solemn promise about a delivery date.
 
No Illusions said:
Thats the only smart thing you said during this whole thread.
Enough is enough already KV has many happy customers I am one of them but others don't want to enter this pissing contest. Theres close to 500 post on this thread alone and if I remember right Kev said only one person has a cue on order. Just shows the childish mob mentality of a lot of this forum as sad as it is everyone feels safe behind there keyboard and join in this crap for no reason when they got no business with KV. You all act like he stole something from your mother when in truth all hes done is fall behind on some orders. I'd like to see who apologizes when he announces he's caught up on all the past due cues. I just wanted to add some reality to this thread as the haters have spun this way out of control. Like another forum member told me its bacause these hates feel the forum is boring otherwise so they enjoy this.:rolleyes:
Maybe I should leave the names off but print my recent rep comments as there is a lot of support for Kev but like I said they just don't want to enter this crap. I'm a man who is not afraid to support my friend.
Hilarious. OK, so if someone gets attacked or robbed, the police shouldn't get involved, because the problem is really only between the robber and the victim. If a person is sexually assaulted, we should turn a blind eye as well, because really, the problem is only between the criminal and the victim.

So, Kevin Varney has unethical business standards, and we shouldn't get involved, because he hasn't directly screwed all of us? I guess you must be the most understanding man on the planet. Someone could wrong your loved ones, and your response would have to be "they didn't wrong me personally, so I can't get involved. Sorry, honey."

Like I said, hilarious. Now I know why you and Kevin are friends. Birds of a feather..............
 
No Illusions said:
Thats not a comment about his dog its very clearly abouts KV's wife. The moderators should in no way allow these comments to continue a man is behind on some orders but making it right yet this isn't the first time someone has said something crude and vulgar about his wife.:nono:
After saying that why don't you Rack em Zach am show up on his doorstep.:rolleyes: Do you have a cue ordered? Has he done any business with you? WHy do you feel the need to insult his family? I'd really like to see you show up on his doorstep there big man.:rolleyes:
You all keep messing around thinking this is fun and someone gonna end up hurt or worse over a pool cue. Real smart.:rolleyes:[/QUOTE
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I also feel ZACH was talking about the GERMAN SHEPARD dog.

You know, I spent a lot of time around CHARLOTTE and it seemed the folks were always friendly....where did all this silly tush-hog nonsense come from??:scratchhead:

NOT A WAY TO WIN FRIENDS, CUSTOMERS or INFLUENCE PEOPLE
 
First off it was meant to be funny or does anyone not have a sense of humor anymore...come on guys just drop this thread already and let the people involved handle it...I made a comment way back and everyone keeps talking so I keep getting a million emails a day...
 
No Illusions said:
I'd really like to see you show up on his doorstep there big man.:rolleyes:
You all keep messing around thinking this is fun and someone gonna end up hurt or worse over a pool cue. Real smart.:rolleyes:


As an objective bystander, even I think your comment went a little too far. It sounds like you're threatening people now. And although I may not have a "dog in the race", there is NO EXCUSE for a cuemaker to not contact his customers, EVEN IF HE's BEHIND on orders.

I have a cue on order that is at least 6 months late. However, the cuemaker has kept in touch with updates, and therefore I am still willing to wait for his cue...all due to his honesty and customer service.

As far as this thread goes, yes, it is negative. Yes there are some members with the mob mentality, but not everyone. Most people are just standing up for an injustice. If any of cincy's story is NOT true, perhaps KV should come on here and explain his side. thats all people want.
 
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No Illusions said:
Thats not a comment about his dog its very clearly abouts KV's wife. The moderators should in no way allow these comments to continue a man is behind on some orders but making it right yet this isn't the first time someone has said something crude and vulgar about his wife.:nono:
After saying that why don't you Rack em Zach am show up on his doorstep.:rolleyes: Do you have a cue ordered? Has he done any business with you? WHy do you feel the need to insult his family? I'd really like to see you show up on his doorstep there big man.:rolleyes:
You all keep messing around thinking this is fun and someone gonna end up hurt or worse over a pool cue. Real smart.:rolleyes:


That's not how I took it. I guess it depends on how you want to see things. Hang on there good buddy, everything is gonna be OK one day.
Peace, Purdman :smile:
 
No Illusions said:
Thats not a comment about his dog its very clearly abouts KV's wife. The moderators should in no way allow these comments to continue a man is behind on some orders but making it right yet this isn't the first time someone has said something crude and vulgar about his wife.:nono:
After saying that why don't you Rack em Zach am show up on his doorstep.:rolleyes: Do you have a cue ordered? Has he done any business with you? WHy do you feel the need to insult his family? I'd really like to see you show up on his doorstep there big man.:rolleyes:
You all keep messing around thinking this is fun and someone gonna end up hurt or worse over a pool cue. Real smart.:rolleyes:

I totally agree that if that comment was made about Kevin's wife it was wrong, in poor taste, and certainly uncalled for. But, I do not understand what part you have in any of this, every other comment coming out of your mouth is to the following effect, I bet you won't say that to Kevin's face, come to Kevin's door step and make your comments, or some one is going to get hurt in one way or another.

Now after making all these threats, you always throw the Moderators into the mix, or you tell people they will be banned or something else that makes you look foolish. My question is simple how uneducated are you that you can't understand that two wrongs NEVER make anything right!!!!!!!!

You should re-read your post before you hit send, because you come across as a child telling people my BIG BROTHER is going to get you.

Please Grow up, I think your threats are meaningless and foolish, and I would certainly hope that the comments in question were not directed toward Kevin's or anyone Else's wife.
 
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I made no attempt in making threats I just said why doesn't someone go up to his door...and I never mentioned his wife??? You guys need to stop...and before when I said take him behind the shed that's an old southern term for spnaking someone...geeez...
 
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rack'em zach'em said:
Someone in that area just show up on Varney's doorstep...look out for the prego --- I hear she bites...at least she'd have to, to be with a fleabag like that



See you in a while Zach.
 
rack'em zach'em said:
Someone in that area just show up on Varney's doorstep...look out for the prego --- I hear she bites...at least she'd have to, to be with a fleabag like that


unfortunately you did say something about his wife. which was out of line. you need to step back and take a break. unless his dogs name is prego. you screwed up.
 
rack'em zach'em said:
First off it was meant to be funny or does anyone not have a sense of humor anymore...come on guys just drop this thread already and let the people involved handle it...I made a comment way back and everyone keeps talking so I keep getting a million emails a day...


Sense of humor! I remember the first time somebody told me that they hoped that when I got home my mom would run out from under the porch and bite me in the leg. I thought it was funny then and now that I think about it, it's still funny.:grin: However, you didn't say anything like that. I don't understand why anyone would jump on your case for saying what you said. Your good to go with me rack' em.
Peace, Purdman :)
 
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Purdman said:
Sense of humor! I remember the first time somebody told me that they hoped that when I got home my mom would run out from under the porch and bite me in the leg. I thought it was funny then and now that I think about it, it's still funny.:grin: However, you didn't say anything like that. I don't understand why anyone would jump on your case for saying what you said. Your good to go with me rack' em.
Peace, Purdman :)

He was good to go with Mr. Wilson too, vacation time!

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No Illusions said:
Thats the only smart thing you said during this whole thread.
Enough is enough already KV has many happy customers I am one of them but others don't want to enter this pissing contest. Theres close to 500 post on this thread alone and if I remember right Kev said only one person has a cue on order. Just shows the childish mob mentality of a lot of this forum as sad as it is everyone feels safe behind there keyboard and join in this crap for no reason when they got no business with KV. You all act like he stole something from your mother when in truth all hes done is fall behind on some orders. I'd like to see who apologizes when he announces he's caught up on all the past due cues. I just wanted to add some reality to this thread as the haters have spun this way out of control. Like another forum member told me its bacause these hates feel the forum is boring otherwise so they enjoy this.:rolleyes:
Maybe I should leave the names off but print my recent rep comments as there is a lot of support for Kev but like I said they just don't want to enter this crap. I'm a man who is not afraid to support my friend.
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I totally agree you are not afaid to support your friend no matter how foolish you look doing it. I think you need to turn some more of Kevin's wood, because that is what you are best at doing, turning wood.

No one cares about your Rep Comments, No one Care's about anything you have to say, because you simple have No creditability. The only positive thing you have done is stand up for your friend. That I can certainly say is your only redeeming quality in my opinion, to me loyalty is worth something even if it is misplaced.

Your could serve yourself and Kevin much more if you spent your energy helping Kevin to understand he is wrong. You both do not like this thread and that is understandable, but the only way Kevin will find peace is by doing the correct thing. So, please take this for what it is worth and if you can not at least speak without making threats and looking foolish, at least speak in an intelligent manner!!!!!

Good Luck to you young cue maker / wood turner!!!!!!!!!:thumbup:
 
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Bottom line is, warnings are given....2x and 3 is out.

I do not know where the balance point is...but as people keep flaming and making personal attacks......

I feel that I have been patient, however patience has not fixed the issues. People will sooner or later stop attacking each other or they will find themselves out.
 
No Illusions said:
Thats the only smart thing you said during this whole thread.
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I think you should re-read my posts if that's what you think. You may be blinded by friendship, but I am not. The facts represent themselves well.
 
masonh said:
here is the solution:

i think a good solution would be to take one day or a half-day off and call or PM everyone on the list who is behind and try to accomodate them in anyway possible.most people are pretty reasonalbe and just don't want to be ignored.i bet even the maddest customers could be appeased with a small discount and a solemn promise about a delivery date.
JACKPOT, i have stated more than 10 times in this thread thats all i want. I do not want a LIE , (in my best jack nicholson voice) "i want the truth"
Thats all i ever wanted and i hope i still get it!! I am easy to please , just tell me what happened and why and i would ok with that. But whati kept getting was the pms i showed you guys, "it will be ready , unrushed by the end of May" " i will have it done by January" <<<<<<< this is the S$$T that is unacceptable!!
 
hi cincy; great post... & sorry for my RANT!!!!

cincyman said:
masonh said:
JACKPOT, i have stated more than 10 times in this thread thats all i want. I do not want a LIE , (in my best jack nicholson voice) "i want the truth"
Thats all i ever wanted and i hope i still get it!! I am easy to please , just tell me what happened and why and i would ok with that. But whati kept getting was the pms i showed you guys, "it will be ready , unrushed by the end of May" " i will have it done by January" <<<<<<< this is the S$$T that is unacceptable!!

if that will satisfy you, and that is all you want; well sir:
you deserve the "thanks and respect of us all".

and that includes; (my special friend-) ericdraven, also noillusions, roadkill, irish and others.

and kevin, you know me, and "i ask you, PLEASE" to:

1.) take care of your beloved family and yourself too! come completely clean. i know it is hard to do, but nothing is as hard as jcin's post about the story of: "LONE SURVIVOR"!! (i hope you saw that post). (i will send you a copy - i don't know your address, but i will send it to ron for you)

2.) go to ron's house and tell him to forgive me (if he can). i "believe" i did the right thing for both you and cincy, i hurt him and the others defenders - that just were blindly defending you, to me it was not the 'right thing' to do.

"YOU" MUST SPEAK FOR YOURSELF! YOU MUST SPEAK THE TRUTH, the Whole Truth (i am not shouting - just being imperative). as ribdoner says: "THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE".

and to your supporters: i believe you want to help him, but maybe you can help him best by giving him strength - not by blindly condemning others; but by helping truly helping him by supporting him coming clean with everybody here.

you make me remember the saying:
if you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day!
if you teach a man to fish, you feed him for a LIFETIME!!

please help him feed his family for a life time by "correcting" him.

i was permanently banned from AzB, but do you know, you "ALL" taught me to "keep myself here" by "Teaching me for a Lifetime. i am trying to do that now (thanks rocket!!)

we have a wonderful forum here. lets not lose the fact that 99.999 percent of us here are 'nice people' who love pool and we each can find wonderful friends here!

yes, there are a few crazy people, but not many compared to all the members.

let's not get each other banned and hurt, and certainly NOT DESTROYED.

kevin PLEASE fix all of this! only you can!! cincy and others deserve it from you. so does you beautiful wife and boy.

Mr. Wilson, i just want to say thanks that you were here to read through all of everything about me (and Mike too) and "unban me". i hope we can all live together and if all can be well for all of us, maybe those banned now can also 'remain whole' and be unbanned soon.

thanks for reading my post,
smokey
 
smokey said:
Mr. Wilson, i just want to say thanks that you were here to read through all of everything about me (and Mike too) and "unban me". i hope we can all live together and if all can be well for all of us, maybe those banned now can also 'remain whole' and be unbanned soon.

I vote we unban everyone, move to the desert with Smokey, start a billiard commune and remain whole while living together in harmony, man. :yes:
 
Roadkill said:
I vote we unban everyone, move to the desert with Smokey, start a billiard commune and remain whole while living together in harmony, man. :yes:

You want to bring back the 60's! I think you just like the "free love". :smile:
 
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