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ibuycues said:
Ouch!
I was offered basicly the same cue not all that many years ago in ebony and Ivory but with the ivory propellers!! It was $12,000.
Now it is probably 10 times that or more!!!
By the way anyone want a nice Balabushka? One of my pals has one with work in it under 15K!!!! Thought I might bring it up while every one was drooling.
Nick
I was offered basicly the same cue not all that many years ago in ebony and Ivory but with the ivory propellers!! It was $12,000.
Now it is probably 10 times that or more!!!
By the way anyone want a nice Balabushka? One of my pals has one with work in it under 15K!!!! Thought I might bring it up while every one was drooling.
Nick
Congratulations
and the winner is!!!!!!....WILL *THE CUE BOX GUY**** (((((APPLAUSE)))....
IM JUST CURIOUS WHO IS THE BIDDER 15.....i don't see him bid there and suddenly he bid 55K ....hmmmmmmmm
and the winner is!!!!!!....WILL *THE CUE BOX GUY**** (((((APPLAUSE)))....
IM JUST CURIOUS WHO IS THE BIDDER 15.....i don't see him bid there and suddenly he bid 55K ....hmmmmmmmm
Will's collection
Photos of Will's collection?
Hmmmmmm
Every one of us would love to see 'em, but that would be a huge task. If you get the chance to ever go to one of Bill Stroud's ICCS shows, do it. You would get to see the creme de le creme of collectors like Will. It is beyond belief.
Take care, Jimmy
rayjay said:Wow! Amazing auction and purchase, Will! Congratulations on your buy, I think you made a good investment on a magnificient cue. I'd love to see photos of your entire collection someday!
Photos of Will's collection?
HmmmmmmEvery one of us would love to see 'em, but that would be a huge task. If you get the chance to ever go to one of Bill Stroud's ICCS shows, do it. You would get to see the creme de le creme of collectors like Will. It is beyond belief.
Take care, Jimmy
dave sutton
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bottom cue is an copy from the cover done by jerry rauenzahn.
With all the hoopla over the Gus box cue, I'm going to be posting a Gus hoppe cue with 2 original Gus shafts and 2 unchalked Barry shafts. The cue was refinished by Barry in 2006. The cue is now 100% mint, and comes with documentation. Stay tuned.
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Will,
I Am Very Happy That You Got This Beauty, I Can Say That If I Had The Available Cash, The Bidding Would Have Gone Higher.
This Could Be My All time Favorite Cue. I Just Hope One Day I Get To See It In Person. And Maybe Sometime After That, I Get To Own It. I'm Sure Its Wishful Thinking, But It's Good To Have Dreams.
P.s. John, Told Me He Was Putting Me In His Will. Anyway I Can Get In Your Will For This Beauty...:d I Would Make Sure I Took Good Care Of Her For You.
I Am Very Happy That You Got This Beauty, I Can Say That If I Had The Available Cash, The Bidding Would Have Gone Higher.
This Could Be My All time Favorite Cue. I Just Hope One Day I Get To See It In Person. And Maybe Sometime After That, I Get To Own It. I'm Sure Its Wishful Thinking, But It's Good To Have Dreams.
P.s. John, Told Me He Was Putting Me In His Will. Anyway I Can Get In Your Will For This Beauty...:d I Would Make Sure I Took Good Care Of Her For You.
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skins said:
I was going to comment early on in this thread about the sheer beauty and subtle geinus of boxed veneers in a box cue.
I'm impressed that this cue actually brought $55.1K on eBay. I assume that the pics sold it, and no bidder actually looked at the cue in person?
As someone who has owned many Gus Szamboti cues, I'd like to make a few comments:
The butt looks totally original, and the design is fantastic. The frosting around the inlays & veneers is typical for Gus's original finish after 20+ years. The "MADE BY GUS SZAMBOTI" inscription is a huge plus, something I've never seen on a Gus box cue. And having the original owner's name on the cue makes it easy to trace in Gus's order book (which Barry has.) I assume the final bidders checked this out?
My only concern after studying the pics is the length of the shafts. Every Gus I've ever had has had shafts that are equal in length to the butt. On this cue, the shafts are about 1/2" inch shorter than the butt if you study the pics.
Also, the ferrules are much whiter than the joint. If they are the same age, they should be the same color. If they are not ivory, they are almost certainly not original. If they are ivory, they may have been replaced?
There is the chance that the shafts were shortened, and the ferrules were replaced. I hope this isn't the case. This could be determined by a personal inspection by Barry. Or the original order book should state the original length of the cue.
I think its a $75K+ cue in a retail environment, totally original, with provenance (more if someone really wants it.) If the shafts have been alterred, its still a good buy at $55K.
Congrats to Will. This is a Gus box cue that will be hard to top. And it will certainly be worth a fortune in the future.
As someone who has owned many Gus Szamboti cues, I'd like to make a few comments:
The butt looks totally original, and the design is fantastic. The frosting around the inlays & veneers is typical for Gus's original finish after 20+ years. The "MADE BY GUS SZAMBOTI" inscription is a huge plus, something I've never seen on a Gus box cue. And having the original owner's name on the cue makes it easy to trace in Gus's order book (which Barry has.) I assume the final bidders checked this out?
My only concern after studying the pics is the length of the shafts. Every Gus I've ever had has had shafts that are equal in length to the butt. On this cue, the shafts are about 1/2" inch shorter than the butt if you study the pics.
Also, the ferrules are much whiter than the joint. If they are the same age, they should be the same color. If they are not ivory, they are almost certainly not original. If they are ivory, they may have been replaced?
There is the chance that the shafts were shortened, and the ferrules were replaced. I hope this isn't the case. This could be determined by a personal inspection by Barry. Or the original order book should state the original length of the cue.
I think its a $75K+ cue in a retail environment, totally original, with provenance (more if someone really wants it.) If the shafts have been alterred, its still a good buy at $55K.
Congrats to Will. This is a Gus box cue that will be hard to top. And it will certainly be worth a fortune in the future.
Cuaba said:
FWIW I have 2 Gus cues that had mis-matched shafts(when I bought them) like the one on this thread, my theorie is that the older they become the lower the chances of finding matching shafts will be because of use etc.,
its great to see the market is alove and well, this was a great valadation, but if anyone thinks their 8K gus is worth 10K now is dreaming, one sale dosent create a market.
I echo these words. I have a Gus with mismatched shafts also...two Gus shafts, just one of them is off another cue.
The top cues will always bring the top money. I can't see it beeing a bad thing for Gus cues in general but I agree that it doesn't shoot up the value of regular Gus cues (if indeed, there is such a thing!).
We all know that if this cue was sold off ebay, it would probably bring something like 30% more than the auction value.....I bet some people would argue that is conservative.
The top cues will always bring the top money. I can't see it beeing a bad thing for Gus cues in general but I agree that it doesn't shoot up the value of regular Gus cues (if indeed, there is such a thing!).
We all know that if this cue was sold off ebay, it would probably bring something like 30% more than the auction value.....I bet some people would argue that is conservative.
i agree that they are actual/origonal shafts too, perhaps who ordered it wanted 2 different shafts for some reason, i like to play 1P with a lighter cue, when I was learning to play I ordered a cue with 4 different shafts different lengths, taper, ferrel material, and diameter to see what worked best for me, I doubt thats the case with this cue-I cant imagine that who ever bought this cue from Gus that it was his first cue, I've had a little length taken off a shaft once because of a crack, there a are a million reasons on older cues why the shafts wont match, what I like to do is get new shafts and play with an old butt, that way i get the shafts I like and the butt I like its the best of both worlds, i just picked up 2 new shafts for a 59" Gus yesterday and wow was it nice, its probably 58 7/8 long and 20.9-21.0 oz, we weighed it and i forgot, oops.
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