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BPG24 said:
These raffles are being held on this site. Which makes the site somewhat responsible. i tried and tried to get a resolution before I addressed paypal. I told the mods and everyone that could view the thread that if it wasn't resolved i would go to paypal and anywhere else I needed to and fix the problem.

I don't care what you or anyone else thinks about this anymore. There is absolutely no way anyone could know whether or not this auction was rigged. I have a HUGE problem with that when my money is involved. Even if it is $14.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Give me a scenario where one could rig the
raffle? There is no way one could rig the raffle when a huge lottery
picks the winning number. I have no idea how there is any chance
of a raffle being rigged with the winning number on the internet for
all to see. So what if you didnt get a link to the site. Not counting
you and the winner, there are 40 other chances in the raffle following
the winning number. Are they in on it too? Are they part of this big
conspiracy? Even then, you could still find the winning number by
going to the powerball site. Please explain to me how this raffle could
be rigged. I need to know.
 
Why dont we start a raffel to get him him his $8.00 back

I am not sure why you participated in a raffel that you didnt understand. Next you will tell me that your mortgage just went up and you didnt know you has an adjustable rate :)

Come on man....you wanted into the raffle...you paid for the raffle...you followed the results of the raffle.....you lost - now you want your money. Becasue you didnt know when the drawing was?????? Because there was no linmk to powerball???? becasue he spelled powerball wrong????

ASk Vernake {sp} for a bailout of your funds.

ps. NO ONE LIKES A SNITCH!

pss. i think i spelled somthing worng in there somehwere, so the entire post is invalid!
 
shamadam said:
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Give me a scenario where one could rig the
raffle? There is no way one could rig the raffle when a huge lottery
picks the winning number. I have no idea how there is any chance
of a raffle being rigged with the winning number on the internet for
all to see. So what if you didnt get a link to the site. Not counting
you and the winner, there are 40 other chances in the raffle following
the winning number. Are they in on it too? Are they part of this big
conspiracy? Even then, you could still find the winning number by
going to the powerball site. Please explain to me how this raffle could
be rigged. I need to know.

You want to know how to rig the auction... anyone that wins not named BPG means it's rigged.

Seriously.. lets say I have all the payments.. and my friend has 6 numbers and one doesn't hit. So I wait and say ok.. I have all the payments after that auction was drawn, giving him another chance. The way it played out, was there was NO way to rig.

Pretty soon, you'll have to take paypal screenshots of the last payment, get it notarized, scan it, then the auction will be legitimate.

JV
 
shamadam said:
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Give me a scenario where one could rig the
raffle? There is no way one could rig the raffle when a huge lottery
picks the winning number. I have no idea how there is any chance
of a raffle being rigged with the winning number on the internet for
all to see. So what if you didnt get a link to the site. Not counting
you and the winner, there are 40 other chances in the raffle following
the winning number. Are they in on it too? Are they part of this big
conspiracy? Even then, you could still find the winning number by
going to the powerball site. Please explain to me how this raffle could
be rigged. I need to know.

It's not a conspiracy. Read what I have already typed out and you will get the answer to your question. It's not about the the lotto numbers. God why do some of you even respond when you have no clue what's going on.
 
DWBOD said:
How could the Auction be rigged when he used the winning powerball number as stated? Do you know the winner personally? I personally don't give a $hit if it was rigged or not, that is no reason to try and destroy the AZB website!!!

Doug<----Doesn't see your point and NEVER will!

i can see his point. he could choose a powerball number to better suit the number. for example. if 12 comes up and i have 12 and he doesnt like me he can wait til the next drawing to get a better number. say next is 25 and doug you have 25 and he likes you more you get the cue.

with that being said i think the is way out of control. i personally hate raffles wont enter. but to try and destroy the forum for what is prob an overlooked post is crazy. power ball vs powerball wow
 
BPG24 said:
It's not a conspiracy. Read what I have already typed out and you will get the answer to your question. It's not about the the lotto numbers. God why do some of you even respond when you have no clue what's going on.
You're hanging on to semantics. I understand your point, but it's really minor in comparison. Does that really entitle you to persue the lengths that you have?

-Ross
Seacrest out....
 
BPG24 said:
It's not a conspiracy. Read what I have already typed out and you will get the answer to your question. It's not about the the lotto numbers. God why do some of you even respond when you have no clue what's going on.

I don't know what you think you're entitled to, but he doesn't have to give you an exact date. Sorry.. he said once it was filled.. he honored it and by filling out the page on the 7th, that means the p-ball after that date was the one he was using. Had he skipped the 8th, then by all means you would have an issue. There is really no issue, no matter how hard you look, you'll never find one.

So let me ask you, he is supposed to tell you that the drawing is November the 8th, 11:00:00 PM eastern standard time, 2008. If the drawing goes off on 11:00:01 PM then it's null and void?

JV
 
dave sutton said:
i can see his point. he could choose a powerball number to better suit the number. for example. if 12 comes up and i have 12 and he doesnt like me he can wait til the next drawing to get a better number. say next is 25 and doug you have 25 and he likes you more you get the cue.

with that being said i think the is way out of control. i personally hate raffles wont enter. but to try and destroy the forum for what is prob an overlooked post is crazy. power ball vs powerball wow




it not about powerball vs power ball. It never was about that. It's about not knowing when the drawing will take place. Like your example above.

Mr Wilson and Mike were both contacted before i went to paypal. Some of these guys don't seem to understand that
 
BPG24 said:
It's not a conspiracy. Read what I have already typed out and you will get the answer to your question. It's not about the the lotto numbers. God why do some of you even respond when you have no clue what's going on.

Allright, I'm stupid, I aplogize. Please just give me your exact grudges as
to why you believe that there may have been a rigged raffle, and to why
you think you deserve your money back. Thats all I want. Please just
humor the clueless one here. All I could find is where you replied "exactly"
to the difference posted between "power ball" and "POWERBALL"
 
BPG24 said:
it not about powerball vs power ball. It never was about that. It's about not knowing when the drawing will take place. Like your example above.

Mr Wilson and Mike were both contacted before i went to paypal. Some of these guys don't seem to understand that

The last edited page of the raffle was on the 7th. He already stated that the oversight on Amoney or whatever his name is, on typing his name there. Amoney said he paid, so that legitimizes the auction for the 8th. Again.. he said it would be the auction after everyone paid.. which would be the 8th. This guy is making a big deal out of NOTHING.

JV
 
BPG24 said:
it not about powerball vs power ball. It never was about that. It's about not knowing when the drawing will take place. Like your example above.

Mr Wilson and Mike were both contacted before i went to paypal. Some of these guys don't seem to understand that

its not like he picked a random day. it was the next number. i undetstand but this is too far.

chalk it up to a guy not knowing what hes doing and forgot to post the date. he not trying to rip someone off. thats no reason to possibly end a section or the entire site.

i understand but let it go. just log off your computer for 24 hours and youll feel better. youre only hurting yourself
 
BPG24 said:
it not about powerball vs power ball. It never was about that. It's about not knowing when the drawing will take place. Like your example above.
BPG24 said:
Mr Wilson and Mike were both contacted before i went to paypal. Some of these guys don't seem to understand that

O.K. O.K. I see that if he didnt post some as paid, and then waited for the
next drawing, someone would get another chance but how is that different
from any other raffle that you have been in? Or for that matter, any other
raffle that has been run here in this format? Why jump on this specific
raffle to cop a b**ch? It seems to me that he didnt wait. He posted that
all the spots were paid, and then the next available raffle was used. This
was no different than any raffle that you have been in. Again, I'm stupid,
and I'd love for you to humor the big stupidhead here.
 
BPG24 said:
it not about powerball vs power ball. It never was about that. It's about not knowing when the drawing will take place. Like your example above.

Mr Wilson and Mike were both contacted before i went to paypal. Some of these guys don't seem to understand that


Wait a minute, on page 2 (post #26) you said "exactly" when kgeorgia said it was about "power ball vs. POWERBALL" and now it isn't? I may be lost but I am trying to understand to view your point of the argument so don't yell at me okay?

Not all of us are brilliant and sorry if we ask questions to try to understand even though we read it, reading forums isn't that easy sometimes. Ha ha.
 
BPG24, I have a couple questions:

1... Which raffle is this in reference to so we can view the thread?

2... It sounds like from the email you're complaining about it being illegal rather than the way it was operated. You go on to state that some of the raffles are unfairly drawn. If you knew all this beforehand, why participate in the raffle at all?

EDIT: Found the raffle thread in question so disregard that first query.

If there's only one Powerball, and the raffle was going to occur the day all spots were filled (and it appears it did), how was this rigged?
 
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kgeorgia said:
Well...just read the thread (thanks classic)... This is a "poor" edited thread...BPG has a good point here... Sorry Pimp but you left a small "window" open and anyone could raise issues... You stated "power ball" instead of "POWERBALL" and no link to it... People from the states might know where to look at, but people from overseas might have hard times to find it. I think mods must make a standard form to be used for raffles, just to avoid situations like this.
If you google "powerball" or "power ball" (with the space) it takes you to www.powerball.com. Where is the confusion? He accidentally use a space?
 
Sweet Marissa said:
If you google "powerball" or "power ball" (with the space) it takes you to www.powerball.com. Where is the confusion? He accidentally use a space?

No, the problem is he didn't give an "exact" date. He did say that it would be the drawing after he received all the payments which he did update his post on the 7th. Anyone with basic reading comprehension can see this auction is legit.

JV
 
Amen and rep to Roscoe!

1pRoscoe said:
You've obviously participated in enough raffles to know what was going on. I think you made a real nitty move.

Nitty, petty, infantile, childish and many other not so nice words.
 
I know I'm tilting at windmills here...

BPG24 said:
it not about powerball vs power ball. It never was about that. It's about not knowing when the drawing will take place. Like your example above.

Mr Wilson and Mike were both contacted before i went to paypal. Some of these guys don't seem to understand that


...but one last try to let you see that you're really out of line. One of your premises has been that the site, AZB should be regulating raffles. So when you went to the powers that be, Mike and Wilson, and they chose not to do anything, why didn't you let it die then? If you think they should be the authority, why do you then go on to usurp that authority?
 
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