One-piece vs Two-piece cue
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this has got to be a loaded question, coming from the curator!
I prefer a one piece for poking tigers, a 2 piece for mice.
I prefer a one piece for poking tigers, a 2 piece for mice.
LOL naw...not a loaded question...but 'part one' of a bigger question...
many people do believe that, generally speaking, one piece cues are 'better' than two piece cues. (solid hit, no joint etc etc)
so i ask them: " then why do you still play with a two-piece in a tourney, if a one-piece is better? "
why not tollerate a full length case if it means winning? (or at least an advantage)
many people do believe that, generally speaking, one piece cues are 'better' than two piece cues. (solid hit, no joint etc etc)
so i ask them: " then why do you still play with a two-piece in a tourney, if a one-piece is better? "
why not tollerate a full length case if it means winning? (or at least an advantage)
OK Fine- I'll buy one of your cases.
get yourself
a really nice one piece cue and case, and drag it on and off the plane, or in and out of the car, to tournaments for a couple years, then you figure out why most use 2 piece cues. i for one play with a one piece titlist at home sometimes and love it, but will i ever take it to a tournament, NO.
a really nice one piece cue and case, and drag it on and off the plane, or in and out of the car, to tournaments for a couple years, then you figure out why most use 2 piece cues. i for one play with a one piece titlist at home sometimes and love it, but will i ever take it to a tournament, NO.
I think it would depend upon your definition of "better". A one-piece "may" hit more solid in some people's opinion, but I would think you have better control of the "playability" of a two-piece cue than you do with a "standard" one-piece.
With a custom two-piece you can control the weighting and balance a bit easier through the use of different materials in the construction (different handle woods, different joints and pins, etc.). I would imagine that a custom cue maker could construct a one-piece with the same characteristics, but I don't know if it would be as easy to control.
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been there, done that
I had a one piece cue, my favorite cue of any I ever shot with. When you tote a one piece awhile you quickly learn it is a pain in the rear to get in and out of many vehicles and doesn't even fit in many well. It can be awkward just getting in and out of doors on buildings too. While I lked it better a two piece didn't keep me from winning and eventually I quit toting the one piece cue. Sticks out like a sore thumb when you are the only one toting a one piece too and there is rarely any desire to stick out as a pool player.
The biggest deal about a one piece is it transfers feel possibly better than any two piece cue. However most people find a two piece cue that has the feel they like or learn to like. The one piece that was my favorite hummed like a tuning fork, what I liked least about it. The edge I gained from it was the weight. Most people aren't crazy or obsessed enough to learn to play with a twelve ounce cue. Once I learned to play with it, it played better than any cue available as a two piece. One of these days I will make a very light two piece cue for myself but until then the heavier two piece cues work just fine. I don't put in the hours to play with the one piece now anyway. It seemed to take all of the work away from the cue's weight and far better control was required. The gain was ultimately far better control than I ever had with a two piece was possible.
Hu
I had a one piece cue, my favorite cue of any I ever shot with. When you tote a one piece awhile you quickly learn it is a pain in the rear to get in and out of many vehicles and doesn't even fit in many well. It can be awkward just getting in and out of doors on buildings too. While I lked it better a two piece didn't keep me from winning and eventually I quit toting the one piece cue. Sticks out like a sore thumb when you are the only one toting a one piece too and there is rarely any desire to stick out as a pool player.
The biggest deal about a one piece is it transfers feel possibly better than any two piece cue. However most people find a two piece cue that has the feel they like or learn to like. The one piece that was my favorite hummed like a tuning fork, what I liked least about it. The edge I gained from it was the weight. Most people aren't crazy or obsessed enough to learn to play with a twelve ounce cue. Once I learned to play with it, it played better than any cue available as a two piece. One of these days I will make a very light two piece cue for myself but until then the heavier two piece cues work just fine. I don't put in the hours to play with the one piece now anyway. It seemed to take all of the work away from the cue's weight and far better control was required. The gain was ultimately far better control than I ever had with a two piece was possible.
Hu
a lot of snooker players still lug around a one piece cue! it's a real pain as others have mentioned. you can get full length cases in the UK for them. 3/4 jointed is probably the most popular now, seems to be a compromise between having the one piece feel and portability. the 3/4 is still a pain, but it fits in cars and such better.
This in my opinion is the biggest advantage, not on all one piece cues but on certain ones.
The one piece Titlists from the 40's and 50's have a taper similar to a "pro"taper and some really have a pure feel. I also like some of the old 26 1/2's. When you get one with that pure feel and tone it's like no two piece cue.
Miss them!
I used to play on some old five by tens by the Mississippi River. Deep cloth, no air conditioning, wet tables. It took one of those old cues as big as a baseball bat to move the balls around. I had been playing on the "fast tables" of the seventies when I got on these and the first time or two was embarassing, some shots didn't reach the pocket! Clay balls too, that old hall was a living relic even then. You could forget a gap between the web of your forefinger and the cue with those sticks unless you had hands as big as Wilt Chamberlin's! I miss everything about that one and a few other old halls, except the lack of air conditioning,
Hu
I used to play on some old five by tens by the Mississippi River. Deep cloth, no air conditioning, wet tables. It took one of those old cues as big as a baseball bat to move the balls around. I had been playing on the "fast tables" of the seventies when I got on these and the first time or two was embarassing, some shots didn't reach the pocket! Clay balls too, that old hall was a living relic even then. You could forget a gap between the web of your forefinger and the cue with those sticks unless you had hands as big as Wilt Chamberlin's! I miss everything about that one and a few other old halls, except the lack of air conditioning,
Hu
If you hit with the 10,000 best cues ever made......
...I don't think ONE of them would be a one-piece cue.
All the best materials and time and skill of great cue makers were
reserved for two piece cues.
If one of these great cue makers decided to do a line of one piece cues,
I would be interested....but you would still have a cue you couldn't have
an extra shaft for.
I looked one summer years ago at maybe 5,000 house cues...not one of
them could compare to any of my good cues.
It was like looking for a Lada that would drive like a Lamborghini.
Is not 'the joint' the weakest link?
Not weak as in 'strength', but isn't it a variable in the equation that simply doesnt exist with a one-piece, or even a full splice cue.
hmm. thats a large number.
conversely, i do believe that many of the best cues began their life as a one-piece, and would have remained so if someone had not decided to produce a two-piece from it.
Now THAT is a one piece cue worth trying.
Personally, I think carrying around a 1piece is the stupidest thing in gaming.
I don't think there is any proof that 1pieces are functionally "better". But they are pragmatically worse. And if someone is really hard up for "the hit" of a 1piece they can have a house cue made with a woodjoint similar to a 3C cue. What a collared joint does is change the feel/feedback of a hit. To have that option is a positive quality.
I don't think there is any proof that 1pieces are functionally "better". But they are pragmatically worse. And if someone is really hard up for "the hit" of a 1piece they can have a house cue made with a woodjoint similar to a 3C cue. What a collared joint does is change the feel/feedback of a hit. To have that option is a positive quality.
Pangit
Banned
"Yuk" it up all you want.
A guy pays 50-60 bucks for what most people would scoof at as a "house" cue?? You can pick and choose and normally find a pretty nice stick? Put a decent tip on it. After that....the only thing that matters is "who's" holding the cue???
I think these dumb-asses that pay 30 bucks for a single square of Kamui Chalk are far more entertaining...Especially when they try to justify it and convert others.
Snake-handling Appalachian "Preachers" come to mind. Forget about beach front property in Arizona, I have some magic cue chalk.
Sam Kinison said it best
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_VURr6jnWQ
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