Oscar Dominguez continues to earn the respect of the pool community with everything he does.
It sounds like Oscar is a man that can be TRUSTED!
JoeyA
It sounds like Oscar is a man that can be TRUSTED!
JoeyA
Oscar Dominguez Does It Again
- Thread starter watchez
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Rodney? Cleary?
Two of my favorite folks, I like Randy and Oscar a whole lot. They deserved to play, Randy isn't the kind of guy to blow something off or be lazy and late so kudos to Oscar for giving that benefit of the doubt and competing.
Can we have another hint, Watchez?
The criticism isn't so much directed at Oscar for asking the forfeit to be reversed, but rather the criticism is mainly directed at the tournament director(s) for allowing the reversal of an already made decision.
You say the opponent was probably 20 minutes late. Where does one draw the line? 25 minutes? 30 minutes? An hour?
This past Super Billiards Expo I had cancelled my entry thinking I couldn't play Thursday because of work. I was able to get out of work and was driving down on Thursday. A buddy of mine who was there said I was on for a 2pm match and i was stll 50 minutes out. I texted Hopkins who said I hadn't been removed through an oversight and to "try and make it". My buddy talked to my opponent and said I was going to be 20 to 30 minutes late. I told him that I'd forfeit...but the opponent wouldn't have it.
We each won a set and I lost hill hill on 3rd set. I was appreciative of him allowing me the chance. I know I'd have done the same. I don't want to win by forfeit over stuff like this.
We each won a set and I lost hill hill on 3rd set. I was appreciative of him allowing me the chance. I know I'd have done the same. I don't want to win by forfeit over stuff like this.
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Oscar and Steve are long time friends (Steve is one of my long time best friends). I can't believe Steve was late due to his own error - he's basically one of the smartest guys I know (owner and author of Virtual Pool computer games) and he's also a good player. Derby's system must suck!
Oscar has always been a very kind soul, just a great one-in-a-million type of person. Somehow pool hasn't ruined him.
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Swooop-like.
Oscar is a class act through and through. He is the epitome of the guy who does the right thing when no one is looking.
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"Rules are put in place for a reason and matches played at amended times
can throw out schedules for players who are zoning in to play their own match.
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Except they aren't at the DCC - one of my 'disapointments' with this format as a spectator
is there is such a short period of time from when they determine who will be playing where
till the match is underway.
Dale(highly experienced spectator)
One draws the line at.......the tournament DIRECTOR.
That's who makes the calls.
Not anyone else.
If the TD feels that there is no harm to the tournament by allowing an competitor to CHOOSE to compete rather than advance through a forfeit then that is his call to make.
There is literally nothing to complain about here. It is a no harm no foul situation.
Agree with this 100%, as long as the times are clearly posted and not in any way goofed up (like accidentally telling the players two different times),
TDs should take the responsibility for enforcing forfeits. Putting the onus on the players makes the timely player feel obligated to play, and makes the tardy player feel like they can freeroll.
In any case, it doesn't provide a level playing field for competition. TDs should practice this and ensure a more professional environment for tournaments on all levels.
He didn't even tell me about this til the next day and not sure how he would take a post on it as he doesn't like to draw attention to himself.
John French has people on his team. Well I am proud to be on Oscar's team. No one should 'own' a pool player or say they are his.
#TeamMexico
Let's say Player X notices all this and thinks there is now much more wiggle room for match starting times. Player X shows up 20 minutes late to his match against Player Y to find out he was officially forfeited due to his lateness. Player X pleads with Player Y that the ruling can be reversed because he saw Oscar do it twice. Player Y says, "Sorry, but your loss is official. You should have showed up on time like I did. Nothing I can do about it."
But Player Y could do something about it...if he agrees to reverse the call. So is it now fair to question Y's sportsmanship simply because he refused to ask the TD for a forfeit reversal, given there has been precedent that this call is up to the players?
And FWIW, I love Oscar. He's one of my favorite American players.
BadBoys directs this tournament. First, here is how forfeit procedures work at Derby. Once start time and the table is available, the player must notify us that they do not have an apponent. We announce that player is on the clock and they have 15 minutes from that time.
It does not matter who it is, when that time is up the player must tell us their opponent didn't show and then we issue the forfeit. We enforce the forfeit and take the option out of the players hands so no one can be humiliated or bullied into playing.
In the case of both of these forfeits Oscar requested that the forfeit not be issued before they were final.
It does not matter who it is, when that time is up the player must tell us their opponent didn't show and then we issue the forfeit. We enforce the forfeit and take the option out of the players hands so no one can be humiliated or bullied into playing.
In the case of both of these forfeits Oscar requested that the forfeit not be issued before they were final.