Pictures of hackwork section!

realkingcobra

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What a mess RKC. Hope the frame was at least assembled right.

Forgot to mention that. It baffles me that when the cross members are numbered as to where they go on a GC, that when being set up, they can't put the cross members where they belong. I took the slates off the frame of this table to start right from the beginning because the slates had come apart and there wasn't one single shim used to level the slates. Upon taking the slates off I found out that the cross members were all back-wards so I removed them and re-installed them were they're suppose to go. When I work on a table for someone, I never assume that who ever worked on it last did it right, so I check everything from the beginning, then I know for sure that everything is done right. If things are done right, then I give credit to who ever worked on the table, if not, then I shake my head at another job done by someone that has had no formal training. In my book, I don't think of mechanics as being bad or good, I only see mechanics as either they knew what they were doing, or they didn't. The blame for not knowing what is right or wrong as far as I'm concerned falls on the manufactures of the tables in this industry...because they don't offer any kind of training to work on pool tables:grin: so you just have a bunch of mechanics trying to be mechanics...even if they don't know what they're doing. I've never met a mechanic yet that if you show them how to do something right...they don't want to learn:grin:

Glen
 

Masirib5

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You said it RKC! That is the exact issue!



Forgot to mention that. It baffles me that when the cross members are numbered as to where they go on a GC, that when being set up, they can't put the cross members where they belong. I took the slates off the frame of this table to start right from the beginning because the slates had come apart and there wasn't one single shim used to level the slates. Upon taking the slates off I found out that the cross members were all back-wards so I removed them and re-installed them were they're suppose to go. When I work on a table for someone, I never assume that who ever worked on it last did it right, so I check everything from the beginning, then I know for sure that everything is done right. If things are done right, then I give credit to who ever worked on the table, if not, then I shake my head at another job done by someone that has had no formal training. In my book, I don't think of mechanics as being bad or good, I only see mechanics as either they knew what they were doing, or they didn't. The blame for not knowing what is right or wrong as far as I'm concerned falls on the manufactures of the tables in this industry...because they don't offer any kind of training to work on pool tables:grin: so you just have a bunch of mechanics trying to be mechanics...even if they don't know what they're doing. I've never met a mechanic yet that if you show them how to do something right...they don't want to learn:grin:

Glen
 

Rob_jerrylee

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pocketpared

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The rails on this table were scalloped so badly...

The rails on this table were scalloped so badly at the contact point there must have been 1/8 inch deep depressions. The guy who did the work said they'd disappear after a month or 2. 9 months later they were still almost completely there. The skirts had a horizontal gap beneath the rails and a vertical gap at the corners. Glen reversed them from the way the other guy had them and they fit perfectly. Amazing how badly work can be performed. And these were 2 guys each of who supposedly had a great reputation.

This table plays so well it's sickening.
 

OTLB

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some threads will never die

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spent 2.5 hrs going over this Arcade and it was too much for even me to handle.

I like hacks and bad rubber, more work for me
 

Dartman

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First thing that needs to go is that plate.

It would also be helpful if you sized down the picture, geez.
 

OTLB

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not everything, not even close. Its clear though that many in this forum think they do.

Dartman is correct though and my new camera is a bit overpowering. But how could a person even put this on a table, what a joke. The owner was so furious he took it off. I put it back just to take the pic.


Now as another side note: Dartman and I have not always seen I 2 I (laughing) but I respect him as he gets over the past and maintains himself here as a professional. My hat is off to him.
 
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Cuephoric

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That plate looks like it was fresh from Tijuana! lol Nice find John lol!
I need to post some of the more recent findings soon..... definitely some interesting things out there in the world....:eek:
 

OTLB

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here are some pics from the GC 1 I worked on last week with the help of the 72 yr old I mentioned in another thread. He helped me and I helped him. Right now he is cleaning and painting that table, cleaning castings etc. What a crappy looking table and job that was done, OMG. Look at the nice shim work under the coasters. He called me and asked to come recover his table. I started then told him the score.

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xianmacx

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Are those slates beveled at the pockets? Maybe the pictures are just making it look that way...
 

OTLB

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thats factory made

don't shim like this guy

this should be easier to look at, overlooked the options frame before
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A-1 billiards

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John,

Not to many recovery's on those slate liners? Is the rest of the table in good condition? Obviously the previous mechanical work is crap, but hows the table look all done? Inquiring minds want to know.

Jay
 

OTLB

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John,

Not to many recovery's on those slate liners? Is the rest of the table in good condition? Obviously the previous mechanical work is crap, but hows the table look all done? Inquiring minds want to know.

Jay

Was there last Friday, like I said I just couldn't take it as I got more and more into the table. This man is now sanding, filling, cleaning, polishing etc and has the paint codes. I told him to have it ready within two weeks as he is getting old, he laughed at me. Then I told him I wasn't kidding. Thats when he said I'll make you lunch. He came down stairs and the slate was against the wall and table apart ready for him to work on. Hope he does a good job. Will post pics when he calls me back. Your welcome to assist if you like. Already told him I was putting tac strips on it and he said I was nuts.

This guy is a gambler also, has hit over 60 jackpots at the casino for more than 300K.. Nice to get old and gamble everyday I guess. He has more stories than Walt Disney.

It only took me 3 hrs to get to the point in the pics, he talks more than me but is a great guy. I don't mind listening to old guys as they have been around. That job should have only taken about 6 hrs total but I wanted him to be proud when he went down in the basement and told him that with a little work he would be. Then he could tell his friends that he did it etc. He was very excited to get his table back so I think he will meet my deadline.
 
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pocketpared

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In fitting the rails back on the table again, in order to get the rails to line up with the pockets, I had to re-drill all the rail bolt holes out to 3/4" because the factory holes were to small to allow much room in lining up the rails correctly.

Tables always turn out great if you take your time, and know what you're doing...and if you don't...ASK someone for some help...or advice:grin:

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Seeing my table in the hack work thread always embarrasses me. Then I run downstairs and hit a few balls and all is better.
 

Club Billiards

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Hacked Slate

I haven't posted in this section for a while, but here's one I felt qualified:

We were loading this slate from a storage unit. (Still 3 tables left by the way...9' Diamond Professionals, great price, plug plug plug LOL).

Anyway, we always talk about how tearing a table down is easy and pretty much any idiot with a screwdriver can figure out how to take something apart. This is what can happen when you have someone who doesn't know what they're doing take one apart, and why I recommend leaving even the tear-downs to the pros.

Here's the stack of slate:

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You can tell someone left one of the pocket screws in the piece of slate above this one. When it got stacked, the screw dragged across this piece.

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In this picture you can tell how deep of a groove it left.

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Now I'm not saying it can't be fixed, but damn!!!!
 
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