Please read this post from TvMike before trashing his good name and reputation!!!!
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Depending on the viewers level of technical ability it certainly can be. 90+% of all streaming problems are on the viewer end. Everyonce in awhile a Content Delivery Network has issues or a host locations bandwidth has problems.
I don't know where the quotes come from as I never said any of that but I am guessing by the tone of your post that you are indeed correct in that you probably should not buy any online PPV's.
I feel that you shouldn't be able watch matches that people spend months and $1000's to produce.
How is it a gamble when most reputable streamers refund viewers' money when things go wrong? TAR has always made things right and Mark said in another thread he'd refund viewers' money as well.
HUGE gamble.
Why don't you drive right up to where the action is happening and watch it live. I bet you will find a 25 dollar pay per view is a pretty good deal.
Lets stop all the fighting and get to the meat of this entire situation, many of use feel like we were bent over a pool table making a shot and in the process physically assaulted!!!!!!!!!:grin:
As a business man myself I can honestly say that things certainly do not always go right, I mean shit happens. But, how you treat your customers when these things happen will increase your busines in the future or destroy it. I have lost money also, but that factor never controls my actions where my customers are concerned and it never will!!
It doesn't matter what Mike, Joe or Kentucky Fried Fred said, we the customers got screwed, and we did not even get a reach around!!!
I don't care who does it get the refunds rolling, I bought my ticket on MikeTV, MikeTV streamed the event, MikeTV Advertised the event, So Mike where ever you are get it done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You want to play with the big boys, stand up like one and do the right thing or your credibility will forever suffer for your inactions!!!
JIMO
As a business man myself I can honestly say that things certainly do not always go right, I mean shit happens. But, how you treat your customers when these things happen will increase your busines in the future or destroy it. I have lost money also, but that factor never controls my actions where my customers are concerned and it never will!!
It doesn't matter what Mike, Joe or Kentucky Fried Fred said, we the customers got screwed, and we did not even get a reach around!!!
I don't care who does it get the refunds rolling, I bought my ticket on MikeTV, MikeTV streamed the event, MikeTV Advertised the event, So Mike where ever you are get it done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You want to play with the big boys, stand up like one and do the right thing or your credibility will forever suffer for your inactions!!!
JIMO
IMO, a good solution to satisfy those who lost out with the PPV is to offer a refund or give them the content that was recorded of the match via online download. If I paid for it and did not get what I paid for but was sent an email offering the digital download of the whole match I would be more than happy to receive it.
If you do not have the ability to offer the digital download I can help you do that, you could always burn the match on DVDs and send those to people also. I have never been for PPV and have always streamed free, nothing wrong with doing the PPV but it seems like its not that good for sponsors who are involved because your viewership is cut down from thousands to a couple hundred.
I like how Justin has handled problems with PPV, going to streaming free when it does not work out and for the unhappy customers they get refunded. I saw the Ustream PPV option and thought it was cool to be able to be able to do this but so many variables make mishaps slightly possible.
I would like to see TAR put all the matches they have in the can on Ustream, just broadcast and record it live privately, then put a price of say $2.99 or whatever to watch the match via Ustream recorded PPV. Would take time but might make a good deal of money, lots of gems in those hard drives.
If you do not have the ability to offer the digital download I can help you do that, you could always burn the match on DVDs and send those to people also. I have never been for PPV and have always streamed free, nothing wrong with doing the PPV but it seems like its not that good for sponsors who are involved because your viewership is cut down from thousands to a couple hundred.
I like how Justin has handled problems with PPV, going to streaming free when it does not work out and for the unhappy customers they get refunded. I saw the Ustream PPV option and thought it was cool to be able to be able to do this but so many variables make mishaps slightly possible.
I would like to see TAR put all the matches they have in the can on Ustream, just broadcast and record it live privately, then put a price of say $2.99 or whatever to watch the match via Ustream recorded PPV. Would take time but might make a good deal of money, lots of gems in those hard drives.
Why offer a raffle? Send the customers DVD's of the match. that would settle it for me.
I see it like this, Ustream is sketchy at best, even if you're paying for it. Anyone that pays to watch something on Ustream is gambling on being able to watch the entire event. I wouldn't pay a dime to watch anything on Ustream, it's not trustworthy.
MULLY
I know Mike and know that he realllly wants to please the pool community. He is trying and he is learning as he goes. At least he is going out of his way to bring a product to the pool community. When I have visited Michigan and have seen Mike, talked to him, and watched him put a stream together, it is obvious that he isn't making money from this {yet}. I wish other people could see what I have seen. If they did, I really feel that more people would give him a little slack.
In Justin's own words: "Live production for paying customers is not for the faint of heart. I still learn every time we do one.
The saying "The devil is in the details" was never more apt. Worst part is in streaming you can do everything right and still fail."
I made my comment based on these statements, so I'll wait until the bugs get worked out, thank you
!!!Maniac (one who doesn't like the hassle of paypal transactions/refunds)
