Pools Greatest Biters

Walt Frazier

Walt Frazier

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You know the guys..They are normally well known..well liked ..and pretty darn good players..but for whatever reason,they are horrible money-managers..

What these guys lack in bank-roll mgmt.skills..they make up for with their "biting" skills..

1.Cliff Joyner(maybe the best biter of all time..by the time he gets done laying the bite down on you..you'll feel almost as if you owe him the cash LOL)

2.Ronnie Allen

3.Steve "Lizard" Smith

4.James Christopher

5.N.Y.Blackie

This is all just my humble opinion..feel free to add!
 
Walt Frazier said:
You know the guys..They are normally well known..well liked ..and pretty darn good players..but for whatever reason,they are horrible money-managers..

What these guys lack in bank-roll mgmt.skills..they make up for with their "biting" skills..

1.Cliff Joyner(maybe the best biter of all time..by the time he gets done laying the bite down on you..you'll feel almost as if you owe him the cash LOL)

2.Ronnie Allen

3.Steve "Lizard" Smith

4.James Christopher

5.N.Y.Blackie
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ironman said:
Walt Frazier said:
You know the guys..They are normally well known..well liked ..and pretty darn good players..but for whatever reason,they are horrible money-managers..

What these guys lack in bank-roll mgmt.skills..they make up for with their "biting" skills..

1.Cliff Joyner(maybe the best biter of all time..by the time he gets done laying the bite down on you..you'll feel almost as if you owe him the cash LOL)

2.Ronnie Allen

3.Steve "Lizard" Smith

4.James Christopher

5.N.Y.Blackie
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I couldn't help but laugh. At least you didn't go public with it.
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As most the people, In The Know, will tell you, Louie Roberts, takes the cake. He learned his skills from, Handsome Danny Jones.
 
hemicudas said:
As most the people, In The Know, will tell you, Louie Roberts, takes the cake. He learned his skills from, Handsome Danny Jones.
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I considered it an entertainment fee, for being able to watch him shoot. :)
 
1. Ronnie "You'll get it right back" Allen
2. Keith "Our number is 220" McCready
3. Louie "I'll rob this guy" Roberts
 
A funny story about the first time I ever spoke with Cliff Joyner.

This year at the December Reno tournament, Shane had just beat Hennesse and I guess Cliff saw me getting my share of the dough. As soon as I stepped outside the practice room to shoot the bull with some guys milling around, Cliff materiealizes out of nowhere, at my side.

He looks me in the eye and says "Let me get that C-Note." Keep in mind, over the years I have seen Cliff play numerous times at various tournaments across the country, but I have never said a word to the man. I say "Huh?" Cliff responds " Let me borrow a hundred man."

I almost gave it to him purely based on having the balls to ask a total stranger for a $100 bill like it was asking to borrow a quarter.

Almost. :D

He hasn't asked again. Yet.

The finish to story is that I guess he got a fish because 10 minutes later he was standing at the craps table with me.
 
I will refrain from naming names, but one guy, when he borrowed money and then they asked for it back, told him that it was his own fault for loaning the money to him in the first place! :p

The other guy I know borrowed his $5000 winnings at the IPT tournament, and has not paid any back, even though he is getting his checks....and I don't mean to imply that it's Keith.
 
JCIN said:
A funny story about the first time I ever spoke with Cliff Joyner.

This year at the December Reno tournament, Shane had just beat Hennesse and I guess Cliff saw me getting my share of the dough. As soon as I stepped outside the practice room to shoot the bull with some guys milling around, Cliff materiealizes out of nowhere, at my side.

He looks me in the eye and says "Let me get that C-Note." Keep in mind, over the years I have seen Cliff play numerous times at various tournaments across the country, but I have never said a word to the man. I say "Huh?" Cliff responds " Let me borrow a hundred man."

I almost gave it to him purely based on having the balls to ask a total stranger for a $100 bill like it was asking to borrow a quarter.

Almost. :D

He hasn't asked again. Yet.

The finish to story is that I guess he got a fish because 10 minutes later he was standing at the craps table with me.
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I'm playing at the World Series of Poker in Vegas two years ago, and I make the final table in the $2,000 Limit Hold'em. I finally get eliminated in 7th place, and win $41,880. I get a gift bag from the shop across the hall and ask to get paid in cash. It takes the gal about ten minutes to do an accurate count on the money. I tipped her a 20. I get paid and stuff it all into the bag with a T-shirt I bought wrapped around the money.

I'm walking out of the ballroom of the Rio, and who magically "appears" next to me but CLIFF. What he was doing there and how he knew I had won the money, I do not know to this day. Frankly I'm surprised to see him, and ask him what are you doing here? He just smiles and says, "Can I get $200 until next time I see you". I'm so suprised, I reach in my pocket and blindly hand it to him.

Yes, Cliff is the best "bite" artist operating today. When he won both divisions and $11,000 at the U.S. Bar Table three years ago, there was a lineup of about a dozen people asking me to get their money for them. I told them they are on their own. I'm not in the collection business.
 
I won't name names on this one, but check this out. About ten years ago, a guy in our poolroom gets picked on a DWI. I bailed him out and loaned him twenty for a cab. I saw the guy about a year ago at a tournament and not only does he forget about the $220, but he asks me to play some $50 sets. Balls the size of coconuts.
 
Walt Frazier said:
You know the guys..They are normally well known..well liked ..and pretty darn good players..but for whatever reason,they are horrible money-managers..

What these guys lack in bank-roll mgmt.skills..they make up for with their "biting" skills..

1.Cliff Joyner(maybe the best biter of all time..by the time he gets done laying the bite down on you..you'll feel almost as if you owe him the cash LOL)

2.Ronnie Allen

3.Steve "Lizard" Smith

4.James Christopher

5.N.Y.Blackie

This is all just my humble opinion..feel free to add!
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I heard a funny story about one of the guys on your list who was in St Louis a while ago. One of the regulars said "I just beat ____ ______ out of $10." Somebody asked him how and he said "The rest of you guys gave him $50, I only gave him $40."
 
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alstl said:
I heard a funny story about one of the guys on your list who was in St Louis a while ago. One of the regulars said "I just beat ____ ______ out of $10." Somebody asked him how and he said "The rest of you guys gave him $50, I only gave him $40."
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A guy from Raleigh went to play in the US Open a few years back (I'll leave him nameless) and I asked him how it went. "Well I slept through my first match, lost my second, but it turned OK." "How is that OK? You pick up any action?" " No, but I borrowed over $500." Think about it.
 
jay helfert said:
Yes, Cliff is the best "bite" artist operating today. When he won both divisions and $11,000 at the U.S. Bar Table three years ago, there was a lineup of about a dozen people asking me to get their money for them. I told them they are on their own. I'm not in the collection business.
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You do know that when he won both events he had a bad run of luck at the tables and went home empty handed. In fact one of my buddies, who will remain nameless, floated him 2 bills to get back home. He is a great player but he gets out of control sometimes with the action. It gets the best of him occasionally.
 
crawfish said:
I won't name names on this one, but check this out. About ten years ago, a guy in our poolroom gets picked on a DWI. I bailed him out and loaned him twenty for a cab. I saw the guy about a year ago at a tournament and not only does he forget about the $220, but he asks me to play some $50 sets. Balls the size of coconuts.
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Shoulda played, you had a free shot.:)
 
Ktown

Ktown D said:
Shoulda played, you had a free shot.:)
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Hey dude, ever been to a place called the Cellar Bar in Alcoa? I won eight hundred in that dump. I was going by the name "Bob." "Just Bob."
 
A friend of mine told me she once let a fellow gambler borrow about $300 from her while at a major tournament. Within the hour, he turned around and asked her to side bet on some matches with the money he just got from her...
 
One time The One and Only `Master Biter`,yeah that is the correct spelling, approached me and said ``I know I owe you hundred and did not return it, can you give me 50 $? I said `NO` and he walked away.Few weeks ago I came well prepared about my response if he approached me again.I wanted to tell him that I will buy him a meal in CADYS in Riviera and that is all the help he could get from me.But I did not see him at BCA in vegas.
 
Ktown D said:
You do know that when he won both events he had a bad run of luck at the tables and went home empty handed. In fact one of my buddies, who will remain nameless, floated him 2 bills to get back home. He is a great player but he gets out of control sometimes with the action. It gets the best of him occasionally.
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He came to my room at 8AM the morning after the tourney ended, and hocked both his cues to me for $400. So he had $600 "get out of town" money, at least.

One was a Meucci which I sold some months later. The other was made by Roger Allen out of Texas. I still have it. A nice hitting cue too.
 
Ervolino

Johnny "The Velvet Foghorn" Ervolino belongs in the all time top 10 bite men.
It would be nice if Freddie stepped in to share...
 
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