Pools Greatest Biters

> It's hard at times for me to imagine the kind of game it took to give Louie the 7. Did Louie eventually get there,or get to where Buddy eased up the spot? Tommy D.
 
Tommy-D said:
> It's hard at times for me to imagine the kind of game it took to give Louie the 7. Did Louie eventually get there,or get to where Buddy eased up the spot? Tommy D.

Louie eventually won.
 
Goose is a character. I was taking in a match-up several years ago between him and Fargo. Goose was down and Fargo was walking out to get some rest. Goose says, hey, you got the last two. LOL They went at it again. I went home.

Earlier, Goose caught me off guard. He was walking by where I was sitting, stopped, looked, and said, "same bet?" LOL Quite the kidder.
 
freddy the beard said:
Yes, it's true. I make it a tie between him, Bugs and Ronnie, all of whom have left vicious teeth-marks on my skin. I once asked Johnny for a bite in LA. He said he was broke, but if he had had money, I could have had whatever I wanted. But the bottom line was a zero. Six months later in Vegas, he bit me for $900, his justification was, "Remember when you was broke in LA and you asked me for $, what did I tell you? I said you could have anything I had, if I had had it." His logic was overwhelming, and I paid him off. Later, I came to and realized he had given me nothing but a promise. As an aside, Billy Johnson (Wade Crane) deserves at least an honorable mention in the aforementioned category.

the Beard

Just saw Wade a couple of weeks ago. Still healing.
 
hemicudas said:
I can't attest to the truth of that statement but I had heard the same thing. I believe the last time I heard it was here on AZ and I think my much missed friend,

Sometime back in 80"s we awere at the Denver Open and Louie had gone busted. He tried to put the bite on Frank the owner and Frank didn't to for it.

After thinking about it a bit Frank went to Louie and gave him $250 to put on a 45 minute exhibition. To this day, it was the most incredible exhibition I've seen. The crowd went bonkers.
 
hemicudas said:
Yea, but he was getting the 7 ball in Shreveport and everyone knew no one on earth could give him the 7 ball.

I sweated that entire match. It was one of the most amazing things I ever saw. It ain't like Louie played badly, he just couldn't get a shot. Buddy ran out, ran out, and ran out.

After 26 hours of play they took a break. Buddy came over and handed me $20 bill and told me I was the best sweater he had ever seen. I thought I had hit the bigtime.
 
Stones said:
My experiences with biters has a long history having owned and run pool rooms for over 20+ years.

The biters that really got me were the ones who would hit me up some small change (ten, twenty or fifty bucks) and paid me back in time. Then, they put the BIG BITE on me, reasoning that they always paid me back in the past. Of course, I never saw any of them again.

It got so bad, I started writing the debts done on a note pad I kept in my case. When I left Houston, I was owed $4300.

Stones

One trick I learned owning poolrooms, was how to get rid of an undesirable individual. I just loaned him some money, and then I would never see him again. Worked a few times.

I looked at loaning money this way, and I'm in for thousands myself. I'd rather be on my end of it, then theirs. It never hurt me to loan a 20, a 50 or a 100. So I guess I'm fortunate that way. Much more fortunate than the guy who was constantly "on the bite", and permanently broke.
 
hemicudas said:
Yea, but he was getting the 7 ball in Shreveport and everyone knew no one on earth could give him the 7 ball.

Except Buddy! I gave Louie $1,000 once to play Buddy with the 7 Ball. I stayed out of the poolroom because I didn't want Buddy to know I was betting against him. I layed in a motel room all day and night. Louie called me once and told me he "had 'em". I asked him how many games we were up and he said he was only stuck four games, at 50 a pop. Go figure.

Anyway, Louie finally drags in about 2 AM, and I ask him how we did. He says Buddy just did the impossible again. He outran the nuts one more time. He actually wanted me to give him another thousand to go back and play Buddy the next day. This was the third time Louie had lost at this game, according to him. He did finally beat Buddy once, because he called me at 4 AM in California to tell me he had beaten Buddy. He sounded drunk, and told me he would wire me some money soon. Well, soon never came.
 
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oncepkt said:
Goose is a character. I was taking in a match-up several years ago between him and Fargo. Goose was down and Fargo was walking out to get some rest. Goose says, hey, you got the last two. LOL They went at it again. I went home.

Earlier, Goose caught me off guard. He was walking by where I was sitting, stopped, looked, and said, "same bet?" LOL Quite the kidder.

That's a classic Benny "The Goose" Conway line. He would make the most off the wall remarks with a straight face, and have you shaking your head in wonder. How could you not like a guy like that.

Last time I talked to Benny on the phone (maybe ten years ago), somehow he got me to wire him $135, and made me feel like I owed it to him for something or other, which I have completely forgotten now.
 
jay helfert said:
That's a classic Benny "The Goose" Conway line. He would make the most off the wall remarks with a straight face, and have you shaking your head in wonder. How could you not like a guy like that.

Last time I talked to Benny on the phone (maybe ten years ago), somehow he got me to wire him $135, and made me feel like I owed it to him for something or other, which I have completely forgotten now.

That's Benny for sure, Jay. Like virtually all of us in the 70s, Benny made his fair share of Doctors, trying to stay slim and trim. You could always tell within the first sentence when Benny walked in the door that he had just been to the Dr.s office. He would walk in, lay the funniest line you've ever heard on you roll that cigar to the other side of his mouth and never crack a smile. He might smile if you said something funny but he always had the best lines and always kept a straight face.
 
I think Louie was in Cues2 last night in action.I never met the the guy but I heard someone call him Louie.He is certainly quick whitted.
 
NoBull9 said:
I think Louie was in Cues2 last night in action.I never met the the guy but I heard someone call him Louie.He is certainly quick whitted.

Might have been "A" Louie but it wasn't Louie Roberts. Louie died in the early 90s.
 
jay helfert said:
I'm betting even money he's a no-show. Guys like that are not wired to repay debts. No matter how much money they have.
It may be hard to believe, but yesterday he came and paid me in full and even bought his cues back from me to top it off. I did have my doubts the day would ever come.
 
Louie Roberts

Another 'cue collateral' story from Louie. In Nashville one year he went up to a sweater and 'sold' him his cue for $300 so that he could get a motel room for the week. Told the guy that he would get the cue as soon as he was out of the tournament. Then he sold the cue for another $300 to another guy so that he would have food money. Finally, he sold the cue again, this time for $500, to another guy so he would have some 'walking around' money.

All three were in the stands to watch Louie in the finals and to collect their cue afterward. In the final game (which he won) Louie intentionaly 'missed' a bank shot (that was actually a safety) and as he screamed his disgust at missing the shot he slammed the cue down on the rail, snapping the cue in half. All three men knew they were out the cue, of course, but the best part is they all forgave him the debt, saying they understood how he must have felt at missing that shot. And none of them ever knew about the other two guys.

Also, in our book "Road Player", Danny Diliberto and I relate the story of how Louie once helped Danny out and drove one of his cars to Las Vegas for him, with Danny leading the way. When Danny went into the restroom at a truck stop Louie drove off in the car. Took Danny two weeks to find him and the car.

Since I have gone to most of the major tournies around the world for the last fifteen years I have many times had players try to bite me when their luck went south. But I have never been bitten. All I carry to events is $50 in cash and I put everything else on a credit card. I also do not even have a PIN number so I cannot use the card to get cash. When asked for money I take my wallet out and show how little cash I have and the bite is always withdrawn.

One year at the BCA Open I was standing with a group of 7 or 8 guys when Ronnie Allen walked in the room. One of the guys says: "There's Ronnie, he owes me $1500." Then another one said: "He owes me $800". Each guy spoke up in turn and Ronnie owed every one of them at least $250. None of them got any cash that day.
 
I got an opposite bite

I was in Atlanta and one of the pro players playing in the tourney was there from Kansas City.

He was broke and no way home, he asked for enough money to get a one way flight home.

I gave him 200 and thought I had just kissed it goodbye. I go to the next tourneyment some months later and he sees me from across the room and comes and gives me 100.

I see him again couple months later, he gives me another 100.

I see him in Louisville and sure enough he hands me another 100, and tells me that he will have the other 100 in a few months. I honestly think I could have continued to get 100 for the rest of my life.

I did tell him that he didnt owe me anything and had settled up long ago. But I did have him buy me a beer and called it even.

LOL

Ken
 
cueman said:
It may be hard to believe, but yesterday he came and paid me in full and even bought his cues back from me to top it off. I did have my doubts the day would ever come.

YES, miracles do happen! Hallelujah! Praise the Lord!
 
Jerry Forsyth said:
Another 'cue collateral' story from Louie. In Nashville one year he went up to a sweater and 'sold' him his cue for $300 so that he could get a motel room for the week. Told the guy that he would get the cue as soon as he was out of the tournament. Then he sold the cue for another $300 to another guy so that he would have food money. Finally, he sold the cue again, this time for $500, to another guy so he would have some 'walking around' money.

All three were in the stands to watch Louie in the finals and to collect their cue afterward. In the final game (which he won) Louie intentionaly 'missed' a bank shot (that was actually a safety) and as he screamed his disgust at missing the shot he slammed the cue down on the rail, snapping the cue in half. All three men knew they were out the cue, of course, but the best part is they all forgave him the debt, saying they understood how he must have felt at missing that shot. And none of them ever knew about the other two guys.

Also, in our book "Road Player", Danny Diliberto and I relate the story of how Louie once helped Danny out and drove one of his cars to Las Vegas for him, with Danny leading the way. When Danny went into the restroom at a truck stop Louie drove off in the car. Took Danny two weeks to find him and the car.

Since I have gone to most of the major tournies around the world for the last fifteen years I have many times had players try to bite me when their luck went south. But I have never been bitten. All I carry to events is $50 in cash and I put everything else on a credit card. I also do not even have a PIN number so I cannot use the card to get cash. When asked for money I take my wallet out and show how little cash I have and the bite is always withdrawn.

One year at the BCA Open I was standing with a group of 7 or 8 guys when Ronnie Allen walked in the room. One of the guys says: "There's Ronnie, he owes me $1500." Then another one said: "He owes me $800". Each guy spoke up in turn and Ronnie owed every one of them at least $250. None of them got any cash that day.


Jerry, you are what we like to call "Bite Proof".
 
Ken_4fun said:
I was in Atlanta and one of the pro players playing in the tourney was there from Kansas City.

He was broke and no way home, he asked for enough money to get a one way flight home.

I gave him 200 and thought I had just kissed it goodbye. I go to the next tourneyment some months later and he sees me from across the room and comes and gives me 100.

I see him again couple months later, he gives me another 100.

I see him in Louisville and sure enough he hands me another 100, and tells me that he will have the other 100 in a few months. I honestly think I could have continued to get 100 for the rest of my life.

I did tell him that he didnt owe me anything and had settled up long ago. But I did have him buy me a beer and called it even.

LOL

Ken

Ken,

Sounds like you came out a 100 ahead. Not a bad deal.
 
jay helfert said:
YES, miracles do happen! Hallelujah! Praise the Lord!
They sure do. But on this one he is back up to his old tricks. He was supposed to show up to work on some doors for me today. He didn't show, but at least he called hours after he should have already been here, to let me know he wouldn't be here. I guess it must be hard to make himself work when he has money in his pocket. Says he will be here tomorrow.
 
I need some help here with this story

Jerry Forsyth's story of Ronnie Allen "jarred" (no pun intended) part of my memory but I can't remember which two players were involved in this. I THINK it was Cornbread Red & Fatty, but it MAY have been Jersey Red and / or RA as well. I hope that either Jerry, Freddie, Grady, Jay or the like can step in and clarify. As "best I can remember" the story....

One night after a match up in Johnson City, Cornbread Red and Fatty were going outside to the parking lot. Two or three masked robbers accosted them in the parking lot, saying "Give us all your money!" Fats asked one of the robbers if he could first say something. The robber said "Make it quick!" Fatty turns to Red and says "Do you remember the $1,200 I owe you?" Red says "Yea, you do owe me $1,200." Fatty then pulls out his wallet and peels off $1,200 and gives it to Red, saying "There, I paid ya. We're all squared now." He then gave the robber his wallet and what money was left in it. The robbers also robbed Red and then left.

Anybody else remember that story?
 
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