Pro pool on glorious Gold Crown 6 Cushions

realkingcobra said:
I wonder what would happen if YALIN bought the design rights to the Brunswick Anniversaries and Centennial's, and produced the same tables today for half of what you sell them for, but new. You think customers would jump on them instead of buying tables from you?
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Again, you are just tryin to argue to hear yourself. This has nothing to do with the topic at hand. There is such a small market for those tables. I know because I sell them... Stop being ridiculous, don't you have TV to watch??

Not posting on this anymore. Good night you rowdy old snake!!

Trent from Toledo:grin-square:
 
trentfromtoledo said:
Again, you are just tryin to argue to hear yourself. This has nothing to do with the topic at hand. There is such a small market for those tables. I know because I sell them... Stop being ridiculous, don't you have TV to watch??

Not posting on this anymore. Good night you rowdy old snake!!

Trent from Toledo:grin-square:
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I believe your comment was not on the subject matter either That I responded to, and I do believe if they came in at around $5k for either of those tables I mentioned, you'd be out of business.
 
realkingcobra said:
I hear ya buddy, but I know of a 112 GC1s in storage with just one person, and lots of them in other areas as well, all of them wishing they could be what they use to be.
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And how old are those GC 1's?
How many owners so far ?

Didn't they sell for less than $1K originally ?

Amazingly, some half a century later, they are still being sold .
And would easily sell if pool was just as popular when they were originally sold.

What happened to your plan of buying a ton of GC's and working on them in Texas and selling them all over because there was a huge demand for them ?
 
realkingcobra said:
I believe your comment was not on the subject matter either That I responded to, and I do believe if they came in at around $5k for either of those tables I mentioned, you'd be out of business.
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I swear, very last post. "If" is Speculation and is BULL$h!t and so is your argument. I will be out of business when I decide. Maybe too much TV is rotting your brain.

Trent
 
realkingcobra said:
Bill is right, the Steven's 22oz Superweave was, and still would be my first choice of cloth the play on today. Only thing is, you've never played on it to know the difference. Speed isn't all its cracked up to be, cue ball control and the ability to spin the cue ball far outweigh speed.
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You and Billy are in good company...Buddy Hall feels the same way....
...at least he did in the late 70s
 
pt109 said:
You and Billy are in good company...Buddy Hall feels the same way....
...at least he did in the late 70s
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Steven or Mali Stephens or before they became owned by Mali ?
Me's confused.
Sigel tried to bring back that cloth during the IPT days, didn't he ?
Thinking he'd be so much better than the other guys .
Then Efren spanked him. :D
 
ShortBusRuss said:
Yeah, cool story, bruh..... And one also can't manipulate banks to the same extent as they can on a Diamond.

And folks don't get punished as extremely for coming up thin on balls.

Yawn.
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Do you really think there is a bank that Brumback can make on a Diamond today that Daulton or Varner or Bugs or Taylor couldn't have made on a GC in their day?
 
realkingcobra said:
There's a big difference between the perception of value, and real value, and resale brings about the realities of the truth. There are lots of GC's in storage, wishing they could be sold, while most looking, wish they could find a Diamond used at a cheaper price.
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Hey, how is that super nice blue label Diamond proam with chair, polisher, light, balls, the works, for 5K sale working out? ha ha ha
 
iusedtoberich said:
Do you really think there is a bank that Brumback can make on a Diamond today that Daulton or Varner or Bugs or Taylor couldn't have made on a GC in their day?
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Yes.
You get your self a red label diamond.
Bank a ball 1/2 diamond from the side, towards
the closest diamond to you on the rail.
Hit it warp speed and watch it bank back up
the table into the side:)
 
iusedtoberich said:
Hey, how is that super nice blue label Diamond proam with chair, polisher, light, balls, the works, for 5K sale working out? ha ha ha
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I don't know, but if you was as smart as you lead people to believe you are....then you'd know I'm not the one selling it. Further more, if you knew anything about cloth on a pool table, then you'd be smart enough to know cloth plays a major role in the effect it has on the playability of a pool table.....or all cloths, snooker, billiard, and pool, would be the same. But, just keep on being the smartest person you know....and I'll keep rooting for you to get that elevator up out of the base.basement....LOL
 
JoeyInCali said:
Steven or Mali Stephens or before they became owned by Mali ?
Me's confused.
Sigel tried to bring back that cloth during the IPT days, didn't he ?
Thinking he'd be so much better than the other guys .
Then Efren spanked him. :D
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Steven's 22oz Superweave, before they sold out to Forstmann, who then sold out to Mali. Nick Varner won his titles playing on it as well as Allen Hopkins and many, many other world class players.
 
JoeyInCali said:
Steven or Mali Stephens or before they became owned by Mali ?
Me's confused.
Sigel tried to bring back that cloth during the IPT days, didn't he ?
Thinking he'd be so much better than the other guys .
Then Efren spanked him. :D
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The IPT cloth was not only a joke, it was an embarrassment to the cloth industry. No pool cloth has ever been made like that before.
 
couldnthinkof01 said:
Yes.
You get your self a red label diamond.
Bank a ball 1/2 diamond from the side, towards
the closest diamond to you on the rail.
Hit it warp speed and watch it bank back up
the table into the side:)
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Those tables probably don't even burn right. Don't give that "blue lable is better" bs. either. They bank short. The only reason the 3 railer to the corner banks even close to right, is that the shortness of the 3 rail makes up for the shortness of the other two! Somehow this cobbles together a somewhat decent ending point for a 3 rail bank. Two railers are still WAY off. I can't even count the number of shots that just don't work anymore! You can't strech out the angle with outside anymore, you can't kill the ball properly with inside, either. Every shot that touches the rail gets chucked out like vegetables out of a fat womans mouth!

It's Brunswicks fault. If they hadn't pulled out of pool, maybe we'd have some proper tables to play on. But no, all we have now is short banking shit and Chinese garbage, none of which can stand up to the playability of a GC. If all you care about is a table holding level for a long time, then Diamond and Rasson are ok tables. If you care AT ALL about proper banking tracks, pockets that play right and rail geometry, then you're shit out of luck with those two. Now Rasson is going for the Eurotour...I mean, I didn't exactly love the Dynamic tables. There was some nonsense going on with the pocket facings, and the build quality was questionable , but at least it played somewhat like a pool table.

GC have a lot of issues, especially hacked up ones, but they don't detract from the game. Diamonds changed the game, for the worse.
 
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realkingcobra said:
Bill is right, the Steven's 22oz Superweave was, and still would be my first choice of cloth the play on today. Only thing is, you've never played on it to know the difference. Speed isn't all its cracked up to be, cue ball control and the ability to spin the cue ball far outweigh speed.
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From your lips to Gods ears.

Pitty pat pool on fast cloth with small pockets sucks.

Nuff said
Fatboy
 
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