Questions for Billy Incardona

Terry Ardeno

Terry Ardeno

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Billy,
Instead of a PM to you, I wanted this in a thread because I suspect others will chime in as well.

1. Would you PLEASE consider writing your autobiography? Pretty please? :)

2. The rest of this is related to Ed Kelly. You were on the road with him and Danny D.

How strong was Ed in 14.1 compared to his 9 ball. He won World Championships in each, but what did he play best? Was there much difference in his ability in those two games?
How did his 9 ball game stack up to you when you were in that zone in the early 1970's?
How did Ed's style of 14.1 differ from Danny's style?

Thanks Bill for any info you care to give!

***Anybody else want to read Billy's autobiography or hear more about his pool encounters? Please add your thoughts to this. I know that Billy is a very busy man, but maybe if he sees how much interest there is in his story, he'll start jotting things down....:smile:
 
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I'd suggest sending Billy a PM that links him to this thread (just in case its no longer on the main page when he logs in next). That way he'll know to come looking for it. :)
 
Good thread Terry (as usual) Ever since Billy got the big Diamond installed by RKC he hasn't been on as much.:rolleyes: I would also like to read some of his life.
 
Terry Ardeno said:
Billy,
Instead of a PM to you, I wanted this in a thread because I suspect others will chime in as well.

1. Would you PLEASE consider writing your autobiography? Pretty please? :)

2. The rest of this is related to Ed Kelly. You were on the road with him and Danny D.

How strong was Ed in 14.1 compared to his 9 ball. He won World Championships in each, but what did he play best? Was there much difference in his ability in those two games?
How did his 9 ball game stack up to you when you were in that zone in the early 1970's?
How did Ed's style of 14.1 differ from Danny's style?

Thanks Bill for any info you care to give!

***Anybody else want to read Billy's autobiography or hear more about his pool encounters? Please add your thoughts to this. I know that Billy is a very busy man, but maybe if he sees how much interest there is in his story, he'll start jotting things down....:smile:
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Ed Kelly was the BEST All Around player in the world back then. And no one disputed this. He played all games JAM UP! Only the very best at any game had a chance against him. Ronnie in One Pocket, Mizerak in 14.1 and yes Billy in 9-Ball.

Kelly was beautiful to watch play. He had a comfort and grace to his style, almost like a dancer. Danny was more of a traditional player, He worked hard for every game and every ball. You could feel his effort.

And their strokes were as different as night and day. Kelly's stroke was the most fluid thing you ever saw, absolute perfection. I cannot think of one player today with a stroke like that. Still thinking, not one.

Danny's stroke was more of a punch, ala Hopkins, but he squared up on the ball more and got down lower than Allen.
 
Ed kelly dropped by to the cue club today.stayed for only five minutes and left.I was disappointed to see him leave without playing.
 
jay helfert said:
Kelly's stroke was the most fluid thing you ever saw, absolute perfection. I cannot think of one player today with a stroke like that. Still thinking, not one.
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How about Jose Parica?
 
I just saw Billy an hour ago playing Joey Barnes(sp)... If I'd read this before I left i would have told him to check out this thread.. maybe he will anyway
 
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jay helfert said:
Ed Kelly was the BEST All Around player in the world back then. And no one disputed this. He played all games JAM UP! Only the very best at any game had a chance against him. Ronnie in One Pocket, Mizerak in 14.1 and yes Billy in 9-Ball.

Kelly was beautiful to watch play. He had a comfort and grace to his style, almost like a dancer. Danny was more of a traditional player, He worked hard for every game and every ball. You could feel his effort.

And their strokes were as different as night and day. Kelly's stroke was the most fluid thing you ever saw, absolute perfection. I cannot think of one player today with a stroke like that. Still thinking, not one.

Danny's stroke was more of a punch, ala Hopkins, but he squared up on the ball more and got down lower than Allen.
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Ed Kelly was the BEST all around player in the world back then.And no one disputed this. He played ALL games JAM UP! Only the very best at any game had a chance against him, Ronnie in One Pocket, Miz in 14.1 and maybe just maybe me in 9 Ball.

Kelly was beautifull to watch play. He had a comfort and grace to his style, almost like a dancer. Danny was more of a traditional player, he worked hard for every game and every ball. You could almost feel his effort.

And their strokes were as different as night and day. Kelly's stroke was the most fluid thing you ever saw, absolute perfection, I cannot think of one player today with a stroke like that. Still thinking, not one.

Danny's stroke was more of a punch, ala Hopkins, but he squared up on the ball more and got down lower than Allen.

Players back then were much more romantic than todays players.At least I thought so. And I can honestly say that even though I was a little younger than Kelly.RA.Jersey,Diliberto,and all the other greats of that time, I am very proud to be a player that came from that era. Mid to late 60's and early 70's. Rock and Role han nuttin on us! Right Shorty?
 
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wincardona said:
Ed Kelly was the BEST all around player in the world back then.And no one disputed this. He played ALL games JAM UP! Only the very best at any game had a chance against him, Ronnie in One Pocket, Miz in 14.1 and maybe just maybe me in 9 Ball.

Kelly was beautifull to watch play. He had a comfort and grace to his style, almost like a dancer. Danny was more of a traditional player, he worked hard for every game and every ball. You could almost feel his effort.

And their strokes were as different as night and day. Kelly's stroke was the most fluid thing you ever saw, absolute perfection, I cannot think of one player today with a stroke like that. Still thinking, not one.

Danny's stroke was more of a punch, ala Hopkins, but he squared up on the ball more and got down lower than Allen.

Players back then were much more romantic than todays players.At least I thought so. And I can honestly say that even though I was a little younger than Kelly.RA.Jersey,Diliberto,and all the other greats of that time, I am very proud to be a player that came from that era. Mid to late 60's and early 70's. Rock and Role han nuttin on us! Right Shorty?
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Who ya callin' Shorty? You're not exactly a giant yourself. ;)
 
sjm said:
How about Jose Parica?
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Sorry Stu, but you just had to see Kelly play to understand. His stroke and Marvin's (both Lefties too) were things of sheer beauty. Help me out here Billy.
 
Tuesday evening I just sat and watched Billy stroke some balls into the pocket. Just warming up. Billy has an awesome delivery system. No wonder he's one of the best....SPF=randyg
 
jay helfert said:
Sorry Stu, but you just had to see Kelly play to understand. His stroke and Marvin's (both Lefties too) were things of sheer beauty. Help me out here Billy.
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But isn`t Stu `the youngest old schooler`??:eek: :confused: :grin:

Brian
 
ugotactionTX said:
I just saw Billy an hour ago playing Joey Barnes(sp)... If I'd read this before I left i would have told him to check out this thread.. maybe he will anyway
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so who won?! how were they playing?

need to know....!!!
 
APA7 said:
But isn`t Stu `the youngest old schooler`??:eek: :confused: :grin:

Brian
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Thanks for the vote of confidence. Although I saw most of the stars of the 1960's and early 1970's, two of the greats of that era that I never had the pleasure of seeing compete were Eddie Kelly and Harold Worst. In both cases, it seems I missed quite a bit.

I did have the pleasure of meeting Eddie Kelly when Lou Butera introduced me to him in Las Vegas a few years ago, and it was a thrill.
On this occasion, the "old schooler" is just too young.
 
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There are a few people in the pool industry that are almost *obligated* to write their memoirs. They are those players (& personalities) that have seen and done it all in what many see as a golden era of pool.

For the sake of pool history, these people *need* to invest the time in recording what really went down and highlight those that made it a business to stay out of the limelight.

For example, didn't Bugs' children NOT know what he had accomplished on the field of green? In this example, how will his legacy be maintained if those that were there do not record the events? I could be wrong, it may have been Youngblood.

IMO, the short list of authors should be (they tend on the younger end for obvious reasons):

Jay Helfert: Underway
Grady Mathews: Already in print, but he probably has more to share...maybe pair up with Strawberry Brooks
Ronnie Allen: No writings that I know of
Billy Incardona: No writings that I know of...he could partner with Kelly
Danny Diliberto: Already in print, but he probably has more to share
Hopkins/Rempe/Varner/Sigel: What a great book these guys could put together...
 
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It was Bugs

mosconiac said:
There are a few people in the pool industry that are almost *obligated* to write their memoirs. They are those players (& personalities) that have seen and done it all in what many see as a golden era of pool.

For the sake of pool history, these people *need* to invest the time in recording what really went down and highlight those that made it a business to stay out of the limelight.

For example, didn't Bugs' children NOT know what he had accomplished on the field of green? In this example, how will his legacy be maintained if those that were there do not record the events? I could be wrong, it may have been Youngblood.

IMO, the short list of authors should be (they tend on the younger end for obvious reasons):

Jay Helfert: Underway
Grady Mathews: Already in print, but he probably has more to share...maybe pair up with Strawberry Brooks
Ronnie Allen: No writings that I know of
Billy Incardona: No writings that I know of...he could partner with Kelly
Danny Diliberto: Already in print, but he probably has more to share
Hopkins/Rempe/Varner/Sigel: What a great book these guys could put together...
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Bugs's children and family did not know he was a great pool player. When I talked to his daughter she was completely in the dark about his abilities.

the Beard
 
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