Red Cloth @ Hollywood Billiards !!!
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Chris
Ernie and Teddy (who is recuperating fabulously from a HIDEOUS motorcycle accident) have been looking to open a room for quite some time. You know with The Master involved it would be spot on and perfect. Maybe losing his place to play will up his motivation.
I'm bummed.
HB replaced my Country Club and I'm a guy who needs a hang out.
Kevin
Chris
We need a clean solid strip joint with triple shimmed gold crowns and foxy way too young (for us) gals. I'm going on full time search mode as soon as I get back. I assume you are playing this weekend? Tear it up.
Kevin
Seconded! :grin-square:
The place will have the best house cues in the business.
Boy is that a fact. You know, just from doing business with Ernie that his act would be tight tight tight. Poor guy is such a perfectionist it would pain me to see him trying to convince Jeff Bey to make even the tiniest concessions to his wishes. I swear sometimes it seemed to me that Jeff wanted you to ask him for something just so he could say no. If you had all the guys he ran out of that place back, he wouldn't have needed a consultant firm, he'd be doing just fine. The best thing he could have done for his business would have been to stay home.
Kevin
I need you just a little closer.
Or maybe I don't, maybe that's just what I should do. I'll come see you next week. If you are playing this weekend tear it up.
Kevin
I'm not a happy camper either guys. I don't like surprises and I got a big one this week. But I have a job to do and many players who are coming in for this event. As always I will do the best job I can and try to keep everyone happy. I do have one question. Do you think sunglasses would help me?
I think with the sun glasses.... You should break out your red pimp daddy suit and white shoes.......
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Corey,
For me it can be a two hour drive in traffic. I like the tables and so forth there.
Hey - congrats on the play and finish in Las Vegas and looking forward to seeing you this weekend!
Chris
AHahaha
The condition of the house cues is an indicator of the amount of respect there is for the game by the owner. When i travel for fun, i dont bring a cue since 9/11. I have no idea what your point is. But I am sure they get lots of non cue travelers like me at HB. Afterall, it IS on HOLLYWOOD Blvd!
I never hit a ball in the place-been there many times.
like that famous song by the Monks a long time ago that went....
Nice legs shame about the face.
In this case it would be nice tables, shame about the cloth.
Nice legs shame about the face.
In this case it would be nice tables, shame about the cloth.
When we first came down to Florida in 1980 we didn't know if we were going to like it down here or if my wife was going to like working in the ER of Tampa General, so we rented in a nice big apt complex. The table in their clubhouse was a nice 8' table, but had Red cloth on it. I played on it every day for a year. My eyes always were burning after about an hour on it. I couldn't not play on it as that table gave me income like a $10 an hour job for almost a year. Then I'd go out to the bars at night and make a killing. Red cloth is about the worst cloth you can put on a pool table for a player.
To change it just before a big Seminole tournament really sucks. Probably too late for most of the players to cancel hotels and planes. There will be a LOT of bicthing going on for sure. Johnnyt
To change it just before a big Seminole tournament really sucks. Probably too late for most of the players to cancel hotels and planes. There will be a LOT of bicthing going on for sure. Johnnyt
I wouldn't be needing the Magic Eraser because I'm putting duct tape around my shaft to keep the chalk off it. Wonder if they'll let me use my Blue diamond chalk??
Now with the slower cloth I'm also wondering if they will let me use a designated breaker. I have enough trouble with the faster cloth. OMGWTF stand by just in case.
I agree with you on one thing, I would love to see the old slow cloth come back where you need a stroke to play pool, not a delicate touch. I'm all for that Stevens or Mali would suit me fine.
long post i'm practicing my writing
Kevin,
I know Jeff very well and consider him a very good friend, we connect on alot of levels because we both like pool, Szamboti cues, are business men, he is a lawyer-I'm certainly not but over the years I have became a student of law in certain areas and therefore Jeff and I have great conversations about cases, case law, impact of ordanaces city, state , federal etc. The FTC, County zoning enforcment, health dept. When I was doing the weding catering biz he helped me alot, when I had the resteraunt open at my office building I was in the f & B Biz like Jeff is. So my point is we talk and connect on many things-oh yeah travelling as well to 3rd world countries think I made my point that I do know jeff very good, better than any other room owner come to think of it.
When I opened my wedding biz the first 2 months i booked $250,000 in events and didnt know what I was doing, the 3rd month all but 2 events cancelled and I didnt sell one event, 4th month nothing sold. Game over for Fatboy and $400,000 investment(anyone want to buy banquet chairs?). I kept in touch with Jeff and he started a marketing dept. He had a $50,000 wrap party booked at his shop upstairs that was booked through some event planner, I had at the same time booked a $40,000 pool party for a make-up company(eye liner and that kinda stuff). We got to talking his event ended up being a party at a mexican resteraunt where the guests had to pay their own way, mine disappeared-I think I got a $1500 deposit check. Point is those days are gone, and Jeff's upsatirs parties are his profit center not 2 guys playing a race to 11 for $100 on table 7. I closed my wedding thing 100%. I dont know how well Jeff did with his marketing dept, he had nice brochures.
Jef might have hired a consulting firm(that dosent seem like him), I have seen this before where a pool room owner intentionally ran off the players because there is more $$$ in the party biz, H-Wood Althletic Club did that and that was one hell of a room, A room in Stockton did the same. The nut on Jeffs building there is huge-I wont say how much, but obviously what he was doing wasnt working as good as he thinks it can with the changes, the table colors are justthe first thing is my guess, therefore the changs I agree with him on that just thinking about top line income perspective. If it dosent help when the red is wore out he will go back to green. I hope for the best for Jeff. He has done alot for pool over many years and to wish bad on him aint right, he might be having a time I dont know.
Jeff knows better than to use red on tables for players. So it appears he is making changes out of necessity not his heart. Cause I know his heart it into pool. So I aint mad at jeff he is doing what he has too-get the highest and best use of his space. Times are hell in most spots.
side note: my biz partner has burgandy 860, It doesnt gove me a headache like blood red but I cant see the edge of the ball.
I cant move mountains and I know better than to ask Jeff to change it, so I cant do that Kevin, I dont think he wants players.'m not even going to mention it to him, I'm sure he will hear enough about it from his customers that he wont want to hear it from a friend.
kindest regards(sorry it was so long I was practicing my writing skills and tried hard on my spellingtoo)
Eric
yes this is a sad day, he might end up moving about 6 ot 7 tables out and building a dance floor at the bottom of the stairs(with a railing between the dance floor and stairs. Its right next to the bar and we all know dancing sells more booze than pool ever will.....
Kevin,
I know Jeff very well and consider him a very good friend, we connect on alot of levels because we both like pool, Szamboti cues, are business men, he is a lawyer-I'm certainly not but over the years I have became a student of law in certain areas and therefore Jeff and I have great conversations about cases, case law, impact of ordanaces city, state , federal etc. The FTC, County zoning enforcment, health dept. When I was doing the weding catering biz he helped me alot, when I had the resteraunt open at my office building I was in the f & B Biz like Jeff is. So my point is we talk and connect on many things-oh yeah travelling as well to 3rd world countries think I made my point that I do know jeff very good, better than any other room owner come to think of it.
When I opened my wedding biz the first 2 months i booked $250,000 in events and didnt know what I was doing, the 3rd month all but 2 events cancelled and I didnt sell one event, 4th month nothing sold. Game over for Fatboy and $400,000 investment(anyone want to buy banquet chairs?). I kept in touch with Jeff and he started a marketing dept. He had a $50,000 wrap party booked at his shop upstairs that was booked through some event planner, I had at the same time booked a $40,000 pool party for a make-up company(eye liner and that kinda stuff). We got to talking his event ended up being a party at a mexican resteraunt where the guests had to pay their own way, mine disappeared-I think I got a $1500 deposit check. Point is those days are gone, and Jeff's upsatirs parties are his profit center not 2 guys playing a race to 11 for $100 on table 7. I closed my wedding thing 100%. I dont know how well Jeff did with his marketing dept, he had nice brochures.
Jef might have hired a consulting firm(that dosent seem like him), I have seen this before where a pool room owner intentionally ran off the players because there is more $$$ in the party biz, H-Wood Althletic Club did that and that was one hell of a room, A room in Stockton did the same. The nut on Jeffs building there is huge-I wont say how much, but obviously what he was doing wasnt working as good as he thinks it can with the changes, the table colors are justthe first thing is my guess, therefore the changs I agree with him on that just thinking about top line income perspective. If it dosent help when the red is wore out he will go back to green. I hope for the best for Jeff. He has done alot for pool over many years and to wish bad on him aint right, he might be having a time I dont know.
Jeff knows better than to use red on tables for players. So it appears he is making changes out of necessity not his heart. Cause I know his heart it into pool. So I aint mad at jeff he is doing what he has too-get the highest and best use of his space. Times are hell in most spots.
side note: my biz partner has burgandy 860, It doesnt gove me a headache like blood red but I cant see the edge of the ball.
I cant move mountains and I know better than to ask Jeff to change it, so I cant do that Kevin, I dont think he wants players.'m not even going to mention it to him, I'm sure he will hear enough about it from his customers that he wont want to hear it from a friend.
kindest regards(sorry it was so long I was practicing my writing skills and tried hard on my spellingtoo)
Eric
yes this is a sad day, he might end up moving about 6 ot 7 tables out and building a dance floor at the bottom of the stairs(with a railing between the dance floor and stairs. Its right next to the bar and we all know dancing sells more booze than pool ever will.....
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What happens if I walk in and use Blue Master chalk on those red tables? How uptight are they about it? My local pool hall has green felt on all the tables, but they don't care what color chalk you use.
I'd go strip this weekend but my schedual is booked full for privates and a few stage dances too(no pole-Fatboy never does the pole thing).
yep its true, I had to start selling myself since I went broke, its a tough sell but I'm a good salesman, I started at The Blind Womans Association of Southern California. Why work hard when you can work smart, I figured that would be the best place for me to strip and not get complaints. Awalys thinking and getting the cash$$$$$$$$:thumbup: The rails needed changed about 1.5 years ago, they are dead-no bounce to the ounce. They are great for cross side banks and straight backs because they bottom out making it a easy target if your not sping them in.
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